EPTLilbow and his Approach to WCS Finals 2015 - Page 11
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Deathstar
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johnbongham
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Specialist
United States803 Posts
gaming should never be considered more than a hobby he's a lazy slob who tries to get by with life by playing games most normal people see gaming as a hobby, to think you are a professional at something so stupid is absurd lilbow can do whatever he wants at something that has 0 meaningful impact in the world | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:11 Specialist wrote: progamer is a joke to begin with gaming should never be considered more than a hobby he's a lazy slob who tries to get by with life by playing games most normal people see gaming as a hobby, to think you are a professional at something so stupid is absurd lilbow can do whatever he wants at something that has 0 meaningful impact in the world Why are you even here? You realize how retarded you sound right? Every game or sport in its inception before popularity or recognition was considered "just a hobby". | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15867 Posts
It's one thing being underprepared and another thing being NOT prepared at all. If a european football club has to decide between national league and european league, then gets completely embarassed in the national league and afterwards say it doesn't matter because they didn't prepare and focused on european league they would get MASSACRED by media and fans. and about the foreign representive part, maybe he didn't choose to be it but he was and he has to has to behave accordingly | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:02 Big J wrote: This is exactly the stupidity behind a lot of posts. Lilbow wasn't sent by some "united foreigner community" as their representative. He didn't choose to be the only foreigner there. It's his fucking life, he didn't do something ridiculous like Naniwa and dropped out midgame. He just didn't prepare as well as he could have, an example of thousands every year in every sport. And he didn't even do it out of lazyness, he didn't waste his time with party escapes or whoring around. Every greater football club in Europe has to choose how to prioritize their player and training resources between European leagues, national leagues and cups. Every olympic winter games the NHL and their players are forced to make the decision between the biggest event for national teams, or the biggest league in the world. And I'm sorry, but the players, teams and leagues often don't decide in favor of the most prestigeous event possible, but rather the ones they have responsibilities towards or the ones that they feel more capable of managing. Same here, Lilbow chose the LotV DH that he actually has a chance in over getting crushed by Life or INnoVation one way or another anyways. By the way, we see the same thing happening over and over again with proleague in Starcraft anyways. Players dropping out of international events on short notice or coming underprepared to them. The only difference is Lilbow's stupid twitter posts instead of a well-constructed PR declaration with some apology towards his fans for not playing better. To use your example if Manchester United came out tomorrow and said something to the extent of "You know what? Barcelona are probably too good for us in the Champions League, so we're going to focus on the FA Cup instead" they'd be crucified by their supporters over it. Lilbow is no different, by not even attempting to try he basically pissed in the faces of every person who wanted to see a foreign hope at Blizzcon. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:11 Specialist wrote: progamer is a joke to begin with gaming should never be considered more than a hobby he's a lazy slob who tries to get by with life by playing games most normal people see gaming as a hobby, to think you are a professional at something so stupid is absurd lilbow can do whatever he wants at something that has 0 meaningful impact in the world Well this is an impressively dumb post | ||
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JabuSeika
United States607 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:11 Specialist wrote: progamer is a joke to begin with gaming should never be considered more than a hobby he's a lazy slob who tries to get by with life by playing games most normal people see gaming as a hobby, to think you are a professional at something so stupid is absurd lilbow can do whatever he wants at something that has 0 meaningful impact in the world Are you seriously in a SC2 forum, disrespecting players that consider this their job and that put in hours and hours of practice a day. Please leave. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
indeed... A lazy slob lol, he probably has more dedication at what he does than 90% of people. | ||
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Penev
28440 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:14 Caihead wrote: Why are you even here? You realize how retarded you sound right? Every game or sport in its inception before popularity or recognition was considered "just a hobby". Don't bother, his specialty is shitposting | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:17 [PkF] Wire wrote: indeed... A lazy slob lol, he probably has more dedication at what he does than 90% of people. Now your french bias is showing | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
Notice I said 90% of people, not 90% of players. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
On November 03 2015 01:03 Jade wrote: Is there really a need to dig deeper than the facts and Lilbow's official response is my question. IMO there is, because this attitude problem doesn't begin or end with Lilbow. By many accounts this is a systemic problem with the way Western players see the game, themselves and the scene vs how Koreans see it. It's a fundamental problem that has to addressed if there ever is going to be a real push to improve the western scene. This doesn't end with Lilbow, he's just the latest example in a long history of this nonsense. If the fans truly do want to see foreign players compete on the big stage with Koreans like they claim they want to, they should NOT tolerate this attitude. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:15 showstealer1829 wrote: To use your example if Manchester United came out tomorrow and said something to the extent of "You know what? Barcelona are probably too good for us in the Champions League, so we're going to focus on the FA Cup instead" they'd be crucified by their supporters over it. Lilbow is no different, by not even attempting to try he basically pissed in the faces of every person who wanted to see a foreign hope at Blizzcon. Yes, but you would understand it if it wasn't Manchester but Rapid Wien and two days ago they won the prestigeous Viennese derby. Of course making the statement like that is stupid, completely undefendable. Is the action itself so bad? No way. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:22 Vindicare605 wrote: IMO there is, because this attitude problem doesn't begin or end with Lilbow. By many accounts this is a systemic problem with the way Western players see the game, themselves and the scene vs how Koreans see it. It's a fundamental problem that has to addressed if there ever is going to be a real push to improve the western scene. This doesn't end with Lilbow, he's just the latest example in a long history of this nonsense. If the fans truly do want to see foreign players compete on the big stage with Koreans like they claim they want to, they should NOT tolerate this attitude. I don't know who to believe, Lilbow or TLO ; on one hand, if TLO is right and Lilbow turned off the help that was offered to him, then Lilbow's attitude is a problem (and this is even questionable, after all, maybe Blizzcon doesn't mean much to him for obscure reasons) ; on the other hand, if Lilbow is right and no one was willing to train HotS with him for that bo5, then the whole foreign scene is a problem. Finally, I think we have to hope Lilbow just made a very short-sighted decision | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25649 Posts
It is especially funny coming from a former wintrader who tried to be good at Hearthstone  | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:25 Big J wrote: Yes, but you would understand it if it wasn't Manchester but Rapid Wien and two days ago they won the prestigeous Viennese derby. Of course making the statement like that is stupid, completely undefendable. Is the action itself so bad? No way. You're clearly beyond help, the Rapid Wien fans would do the exact same thing. | ||
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NihilisticGod
Northern Ireland174 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On November 03 2015 07:26 [PkF] Wire wrote: I don't know who to believe, Lilbow or TLO ; but if TLO is right and Lilbow turned off the help that was offered to him, then Lilbow's attitude is a problem, and if Lilbow is right and no one was willing to train HotS with him for that bo5, then the whole foreign scene is a problem. Finally, I think we have to hope Lilbow just made a very short-sighted decision Well TLO started calling out Lilbow before he said anything on Twitter/Facebook (ie he knew what was going on before hand), and TLO is a foreign Zerg (even if he's not a WCS premier level player anymore). So I gotta assume that TLO is the one telling the truth. | ||
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