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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 19 2015 10:14 GMT
#41
AdministratorBreak the chains
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
October 19 2015 10:15 GMT
#42
"But for a progamer to lose on purpose in a match,

That's the most shameful thing in the world."

This is fascinating, that he believe this, and from my point of view, it seems laughable that something so tiny and insignificant can feel like the most shameful thing in the world for another. This is witness to that I am really making up all my sorrows, even the ones that seems to be justified by everyone around me.
reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
October 19 2015 10:29 GMT
#43
On October 19 2015 19:15 crappen wrote:
"But for a progamer to lose on purpose in a match,

That's the most shameful thing in the world."

This is fascinating, that he believe this, and from my point of view, it seems laughable that something so tiny and insignificant can feel like the most shameful thing in the world for another. This is witness to that I am really making up all my sorrows, even the ones that seems to be justified by everyone around me.


watch out, we got a badass over here
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
October 19 2015 10:42 GMT
#44
Thank you MC.
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 19 2015 10:50 GMT
#45
Damn it, MC, that's pretty sad ;_;
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6333 Posts
October 19 2015 10:50 GMT
#46
That hurts a lot. It must hurt so hard to upset a tough and upbeat guy like MC.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
October 19 2015 11:16 GMT
#47
Well now I'm pissed. It's one thing to match fix and another to lie so bluntly to someone who took you in and fed you. Fuck you Yoda I hope Kespa sues the living shit out of you.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 11:38:59
October 19 2015 11:38 GMT
#48
On October 19 2015 19:15 crappen wrote:
"But for a progamer to lose on purpose in a match,

That's the most shameful thing in the world."

This is fascinating, that he believe this, and from my point of view, it seems laughable that something so tiny and insignificant can feel like the most shameful thing in the world for another. This is witness to that I am really making up all my sorrows, even the ones that seems to be justified by everyone around me.

MC is a progamer. progaming is his world and his career. he is not saying "matchfixing is worse than rape and murder" but that in the world he lives in, for a progamer, with the friends and family he has made through progaming, pertaining to that context it's the worst shame

you're being too literal in your interpretation
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 19 2015 11:44 GMT
#49
What a boss.Respect MC! <3
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 11:50:20
October 19 2015 11:48 GMT
#50
Just to put reality back in check, MC is in the fantastic position of being able to make a good living from playing SC2 need we forget he's made close to half a million not including salary or other potential sources of income. MC has never been in a situation where he's cashless unsupported and just wanting to keep his progaming dream alive.
Also I feel like Yoda did it once because he was in a situation where he had to or retire, then he got carried along because they blackmailed him. Pretty sure Yoda regrets it, not excusing him from this but they should take this into account and be a bit more Lenient.
That said everything he's said is pretty much on point.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 19 2015 12:13 GMT
#51
On October 19 2015 20:48 Ovid wrote:
Just to put reality back in check, MC is in the fantastic position of being able to make a good living from playing SC2 need we forget he's made close to half a million not including salary or other potential sources of income. MC has never been in a situation where he's cashless unsupported and just wanting to keep his progaming dream alive.
Also I feel like Yoda did it once because he was in a situation where he had to or retire, then he got carried along because they blackmailed him. Pretty sure Yoda regrets it, not excusing him from this but they should take this into account and be a bit more Lenient.
That said everything he's said is pretty much on point.

i'm the first person to normally agree that anyone who makes a living/makes money playing computer games is very fortunate, but there are pro sport athletes who made far more YEARLY than MC has in his career and still ended up broke shortly after retiring. $500,000 sounds like infinite money to me, but the way you use money changes when you get a lot of it all at once. you really can't say that "he's never been cashless" just because you know he has a lot of winnings
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Yiome
Profile Joined February 2014
China1687 Posts
October 19 2015 12:20 GMT
#52
I actually have tears in my eyes before finish reading this...

I thought this is impossible, but MC's post just make the whole thing even more sad...
Swoopae
Profile Joined January 2015
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 12:36:39
October 19 2015 12:34 GMT
#53
Very painful to read. Hope MC returns to progaming one day, he really is one of the greatest gamers of all time

I do hope Yoda and the others indicted can learn from it and move on to live a good life away from competitive esports but anyone who can be tempted by money to throw matches needs a lifetime ban
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3775 Posts
October 19 2015 12:43 GMT
#54
I don't want to take anything from how MC is feeling but saying that progamer should earn money from winning is not exactly the most convincing argument when coming from a guy who won the biggest piece of c$ke in SC2.

But of course it's not like Yoda won only pennies in SC2.

I wonder if it coulnd't be kind of the other way around - Yoda was falsely accused, was frustrated and only after that he gave in and agreed to fix matches.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 19 2015 12:50 GMT
#55
Sounded like the player/coach side needed money to continue what they love. It is sad in every way, but in no way excusable.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
October 19 2015 12:51 GMT
#56
On October 19 2015 21:43 nimdil wrote:
I don't want to take anything from how MC is feeling but saying that progamer should earn money from winning is not exactly the most convincing argument when coming from a guy who won the biggest piece of c$ke in SC2.


That felt a bit awkward to me as well. It's easier to say that when you've yourself earned a lot of money from winning than if you are on the B-team and not that successful in individual leagues.

Still sad to see such trust being betrayed...
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Sefirofe
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil3 Posts
October 19 2015 12:51 GMT
#57
I will never understand why someone in a competitive scene would lose on purpose. I played amateur soccer and played starcraft on community tournaments and i always fought my hardest in every single game, even when my tecnique failed, i tried to push myself up with will to try and overcome my lack of skill. I can't understand this mindset of losing on purpose. It's disgusting
Brazilian caster of Copa América, WCS
Pegas
Profile Joined April 2012
Romania211 Posts
October 19 2015 12:55 GMT
#58
I belive I`m more touched by MC post than the actual fixing scandal. One of those shitty days I guess ......


<3 MC
As a rule, men worry more about what they can't see than about what they can
mx_bzh
Profile Joined June 2014
France3 Posts
October 19 2015 12:56 GMT
#59
On October 19 2015 13:45 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
This is pretty painful to read


Lol

User was warned for this post
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3632 Posts
October 19 2015 13:14 GMT
#60
Thank you, Waxangel, for the translation!

On a general note, once people start deceiving and telling lies it's very difficult for them to stop.
Lance Armstrong is a prime example.
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