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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 19 2015 05:40 GMT
#781
On October 19 2015 14:32 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 14:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:


Wow... I don't think this kind of stuff was around for BW match-fixing. Are people becoming more and more crafty/tricky?


Yes, its like every other criminal activity. The more times you get caught, the more refined the methods become.
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20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
October 19 2015 05:42 GMT
#782
The match fixing was real!? I know there was a lot of suspicion surrounding MarineKing, but this looks like it went way past that.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
October 19 2015 05:42 GMT
#783
On October 19 2015 14:39 RoninKenshin wrote:
What I don't understand is how the odds could be so even for games against Prime teams that match-fixing would be viable. Yoda and B4 would lose, but it should be expected. I would think that you would receive 1:5 on your money or something, making it not even worth it. Also, they were performing so badly, why did it even have to be fixed?

I'm pretty sure if the odds were half-decent, people could just Martingale against Prime or something and not risk jail time.


This was in Jan-Jun where they were somewhat competitive
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
October 19 2015 05:43 GMT
#784
On October 19 2015 14:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 14:33 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On October 19 2015 14:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655978939467350016
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655979351440236544



that sounds interesting. I don't understand how they got away with that though. wouldn't you lose all your business once people thought you were giving fake information?


"You don't understand X just chickened out"

I imagine it happens frequently enough combined with the fact that they were also giving real information that you'd just say fuck it the next one will get me my money anyway.


I guess that makes sense. plus sometimes the game will probably end up how they voted so they never knew you lied to them

thanks
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 05:45:21
October 19 2015 05:44 GMT
#785
If this happened in the US, would anyone give a shit?

Would anyone get criminally prosecuted?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 05:45:51
October 19 2015 05:45 GMT
#786
On October 19 2015 14:43 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 14:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On October 19 2015 14:33 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On October 19 2015 14:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655978939467350016
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655979351440236544



that sounds interesting. I don't understand how they got away with that though. wouldn't you lose all your business once people thought you were giving fake information?


"You don't understand X just chickened out"

I imagine it happens frequently enough combined with the fact that they were also giving real information that you'd just say fuck it the next one will get me my money anyway.


I guess that makes sense. plus sometimes the game will probably end up how they voted so they never knew you lied to them

thanks


if the fixers end up guessing right, they still benefit. so it's kinda hilarious.
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
October 19 2015 05:45 GMT
#787
On October 19 2015 14:44 ShambhalaWar wrote:
If this happened in the US, would anyone give a shit?

Would anyone get criminally prosecuted?


yes, yes
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
October 19 2015 05:45 GMT
#788
On October 19 2015 14:43 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 14:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On October 19 2015 14:33 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On October 19 2015 14:31 NovemberstOrm wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655978939467350016
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655979351440236544



that sounds interesting. I don't understand how they got away with that though. wouldn't you lose all your business once people thought you were giving fake information?


"You don't understand X just chickened out"

I imagine it happens frequently enough combined with the fact that they were also giving real information that you'd just say fuck it the next one will get me my money anyway.


I guess that makes sense. plus sometimes the game will probably end up how they voted so they never knew you lied to them

thanks


exactly what I was saying, and if it really is the case then what a shitty system to rely on.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
October 19 2015 05:45 GMT
#789
On October 19 2015 14:44 ShambhalaWar wrote:
If this happened in the US, would anyone give a shit?

Would anyone get prosecuted?

Doesn't matter, following Korean laws in Korea. Good question though.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
October 19 2015 05:46 GMT
#790
yoooo i had this bad vibe in that yoda vs hero game. knew something was up
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
October 19 2015 05:47 GMT
#791
While this is probably real and it's likely they have actual match fixed let's try to remember innocent until proven guilty. So far we haven't seen concrete proof just explanations of what they are supposed to have done. Not that I really think they're innocent, but.. yeah.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 05:51:39
October 19 2015 05:47 GMT
#792
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/655979351440236544

That does explain some Bogus line movements, thank god!

I'm not even sorry.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 05:51:33
October 19 2015 05:47 GMT
#793
On October 19 2015 14:45 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 14:44 ShambhalaWar wrote:
If this happened in the US, would anyone give a shit?

Would anyone get criminally prosecuted?


yes, yes


actually it happens sometimes. there was the basketball ref a few years ago and point shaving's happened a bit in college basketball. people get prosecuted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_NBA_betting_scandal

http://www.mandatory.com/2012/09/13/a-history-of-infamous-point-shaving-scandals/
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danielias21
Profile Joined May 2015
39 Posts
October 19 2015 05:48 GMT
#794
Well. The Good News is that i can finally stop Watching sc2 matches. This means more time to do more stuffs. Bye bye SC2.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
October 19 2015 05:49 GMT
#795
On October 19 2015 14:44 ShambhalaWar wrote:
If this happened in the US, would anyone give a shit?

Would anyone get criminally prosecuted?


For a normal sport definitely (plus this type of betting is illegal in most states). eSports aren't as recognized in the US which makes this question interesting.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5595 Posts
October 19 2015 05:49 GMT
#796
Not the thread I was expecting to wake up to...

Can Prime go any lower than this?
don't wall off against random
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 19 2015 05:50 GMT
#797
On October 19 2015 14:49 rotta wrote:
Not the thread I was expecting to wake up to...

Can Prime go any lower than this?

Considering all their players either left or are now under arrest and they effectively don't exist, I'd say this is as low as it gets.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
RaymondFish
Profile Joined July 2012
United States42 Posts
October 19 2015 05:51 GMT
#798
On October 19 2015 14:48 danielias21 wrote:
Well. The Good News is that i can finally stop Watching sc2 matches. This means more time to do more stuffs. Bye bye SC2.


Amazing first post. BYE!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
October 19 2015 05:51 GMT
#799
On October 19 2015 14:44 ShambhalaWar wrote:
If this happened in the US, would anyone give a shit?

Would anyone get criminally prosecuted?


wasn't there some NBA ref who got busted some years ago for fixing matches? I think he got like a year and that was basically it.
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
October 19 2015 05:52 GMT
#800
On October 19 2015 14:47 Heartland wrote:
While this is probably real and it's likely they have actual match fixed let's try to remember innocent until proven guilty. So far we haven't seen concrete proof just explanations of what they are supposed to have done. Not that I really think they're innocent, but.. yeah.


In America we say that... but once we see those mug shots, you guilty, even if you get proven innocent later, you prob still seen as guilty. Good point though, good reminder.
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