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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46135 Posts
October 19 2015 03:13 GMT
#621
I really hope this doesn't get worse in terms of how many other progamers were in on it x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1206 Posts
October 19 2015 03:15 GMT
#622
On October 19 2015 12:06 caznitch wrote:
HOLY FUCK BALLS THIS IS HUGE!

this was huge in 2010 as well
Flash should fear Sacsri
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 19 2015 03:15 GMT
#623
If it's just Gerrard and Yoda, it's not THAT big a deal. We'll have to wait and see the fallout.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
October 19 2015 03:15 GMT
#624
On October 19 2015 12:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:10 Boucot wrote:
Why do people talk about Creator by the way ?


because he likely to be the most hurt by this.

He was the guy who always cried when winning an important match for his team. This is a sad story indeed
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 19 2015 03:15 GMT
#625
Well this should erase any doubt left in anyone's mind that MKP fixed that infamous match. I find it highly unlikely that YoDa is the only one Gerrard got to matchfix.

Lol @ anyone who defended MKP.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
October 19 2015 03:16 GMT
#626
On October 19 2015 12:12 Seeker wrote:
In regards to the news articles stating that "a former champion was arrested," they were talking about YoDa (who won an IEM). Looks like FOR NOW, everyone else is safe.


thanks for the update.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 19 2015 03:17 GMT
#627
On October 19 2015 12:01 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:00 ROOTFayth wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:54 Scarecrow wrote:
If you're in debt you just disband ffs... there are other options besides crime


When you're in the situation you don't exactly think straight

lol wtf being in debt isn't THAT bad rofl, you can still think quite straight


Being in debt that can cripple you for the rest of your life has driven people to kill themselves. Stop saying stupid things.

natural selection at this point
DCStarcraftGall
Profile Joined October 2015
102 Posts
October 19 2015 03:18 GMT
#628
http://www.gamemeca.com/news/view.php?gid=920025
Apparently a former ESports reporter was involved as well.
the 11--> 12 is because 1 guy is on the run and is being hunted down
Especially sad because the ESports scene has been continuously educated on illegal bettings
and there are actual records of players like Soulkey and Solar saying no to brokers.
SGall Believes: Stats has no probe, soO has lost again, D.Va is daughter of Stork, Dark has no league, Stork is fooled by Solar, sOs is a big guy.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46135 Posts
October 19 2015 03:18 GMT
#629
On October 19 2015 12:15 Doodsmack wrote:
Well this should erase any doubt left in anyone's mind that MKP fixed that infamous match. I find it highly unlikely that YoDa is the only one Gerrard got to matchfix.

Lol @ anyone who defended MKP.


Maybe it's worth revisiting that topic, but we need to be careful slippery sloping into additional accusations until we can gather more evidence.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 03:20:09
October 19 2015 03:19 GMT
#630
If it's true that they were profiting 5-20k PER GAME thrown(I saw someone throwing this figure around on Twitter, no idea if legit or not) its hard to imagine this would be limited to just Gerrard and Yoda.

Ughhhhhhh. ;(

EDIT: Lol should read OP
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 19 2015 03:21 GMT
#631
well obviously it's going to be for at least this amount, I mean there's gotta be more than 1 people betting, and if you're guaranteed to profit on ur bet, you should bet fuckin huge
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
October 19 2015 03:21 GMT
#632
here we go

everybody wants player names
ffxiv enjoyer
DCStarcraftGall
Profile Joined October 2015
102 Posts
October 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#633
Please keep your heads about you. Every time someone just accuses people it is so annoying. MKP has come under intense scrutiny since the game of interest and I am pretty sure people looked for information.
SGall Believes: Stats has no probe, soO has lost again, D.Va is daughter of Stork, Dark has no league, Stork is fooled by Solar, sOs is a big guy.
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
October 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#634
I sort of understand their position though. The coach is trying to run a teamhouse and without money from sponsors, it is kind of hard...

Unfortunate that he felt that he had to break the law to keep the team going, but he suffer the consequences of his acts.

I really don't think he did it out of pure greed, think about it, the team has been struggling financially for years now and they tried to make ends meet in a legitimate fashion, but it wasn't enough.

GL in life to Gerrard and YoDa, I really liked him back when he was on IM. He really dominated back then. Keep your chin up.
DCStarcraftGall
Profile Joined October 2015
102 Posts
October 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#635
Player names have not been released yet and even if they are they will only be initials and ages. Which is basically names tbh
SGall Believes: Stats has no probe, soO has lost again, D.Va is daughter of Stork, Dark has no league, Stork is fooled by Solar, sOs is a big guy.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#636
On October 19 2015 12:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:15 Doodsmack wrote:
Well this should erase any doubt left in anyone's mind that MKP fixed that infamous match. I find it highly unlikely that YoDa is the only one Gerrard got to matchfix.

Lol @ anyone who defended MKP.


Maybe it's worth revisiting that topic, but we need to be careful slippery sloping into additional accusations until we can gather more evidence.


Some of the shady games were likely just stupid players. That's why TL never openly accused anyone until there was actual evidence.

But at least 5 are now confirmed dirty. We can crucify people when we actually find out which games they were.
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RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
October 19 2015 03:22 GMT
#637
On October 19 2015 12:02 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:01 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 19 2015 12:00 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:59 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:56 Coypirus wrote:
Wow feel bad for Gerrard now.

He was the adult here. He made tens of thousands of dollars through crime, corrupted his players and severely damaged the scene just to keep his shitty team afloat...


"Corrupted his players" easy there

He's responsible for them and meant to be looking out for their best interests, not offering them criminal opportunities in the team house.


He didn't corrupt anyone. It's so far only one player and Yoda is an adult. Did he fuck up yes. Is he going to pay the price yes. Did he "corrupt" his players, no.


I don't know what actually went down, but I think you should give a little benefit of doubt or at least wait out to hear testimonies before coming down on Yoda. Yoda is 22 years old and has been playing full-time Starcraft since he was at least 18. While he is legally an adult, I don't know any 22 year olds who have it together. When you're 22, dedicated your entire post-school life to Starcraft, your career is shot, and you don't know what to do with your future, it would be harder than normal to turn down this criminal opportunity presented to you by your trusted coach. Coaches are like parents to these kids (22 is still a kid in my eyes, especially when they don't have any real life experience), and if you offer a bunch of people the equivalent of a 1st place prize pool in a major tournament, one of them are going to cave. However, if Yoda was not largely persuaded by Gerrard, and decided this largely on his own, it would be fine to come down on him.

tl;dr Yoda is still pretty much a kid. Gerrard may have had great influence over his actions. Maybe not. Wait before pitchforks
I'm with e-sports
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 03:29:38
October 19 2015 03:24 GMT
#638
On October 19 2015 12:17 ROOTFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:01 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 12:00 ROOTFayth wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:54 Scarecrow wrote:
If you're in debt you just disband ffs... there are other options besides crime


When you're in the situation you don't exactly think straight

lol wtf being in debt isn't THAT bad rofl, you can still think quite straight


Being in debt that can cripple you for the rest of your life has driven people to kill themselves. Stop saying stupid things.

natural selection at this point


you're actually a moron

User was warned for this post
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yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
October 19 2015 03:25 GMT
#639
What is the point of betting on ESports?
Why even have these things even affiliated with your organization/event?
Government should go legalist and purge these scum.

(For those in America)
Sites like DraftKings and FanDuel are getting investigated for being in the grey zone of gambling laws.
gl hf
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
October 19 2015 03:25 GMT
#640


Choya says MVP will fully participate in any kind of investigation. Choya wants everyone to know no one in MVP is involved.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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