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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting. As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:56 LongShot27 wrote: In most sports teams finances are left up almost entirely if not entirely to the team. I don't know much about other countries in fact but in France the leagues are very strict towards the teams who don't manage to have a balanced budget. There are regularly cases of teams relegated down 1 or 2 divisions because they failed. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:56 RoninKenshin wrote: Does anyone else feel like KeSPA shares a minor portion of the blame for not giving Prime the adequate support that it was promised, and allowing its roster to be picked by every other team with money? Any scumbag (like some coach who prioritizes and puts more effort into the development of his girlfriend over his team) would do stupid things like this when at the end of his rope. Having said this, I have no sympathy for Gerrard in the slightest. I want to believe that Yoda was naive and pushed into this position, but there's no point in wishful thinking or speculating. Kids should have stuck with GSTL. That's the big one. Maru got poached which was devastating and when Zoun started to show promise SKT was like "OH HELL NO" and I love skt... | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:56 Coypirus wrote: Wow feel bad for Gerrard now. yeah, cause match fixing was the only solution, right? | ||
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DCStarcraftGall
102 Posts
Apparently Gerrard ended up knee deep in debt trying to run the team without sponsor. He had already borrowed so much money from relatives and friends. Still doesn't justify what he just did to the Esports community though | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45010 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:55 LongShot27 wrote: When you're in the situation you don't exactly think straight True, but I'm sure some people are going to think that Gerrard was therefore justified... he wasn't. (Also, happy 1234 post!) | ||
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Para199x
United Kingdom40 Posts
Are you suggesting I'd be upset if somebody didn't match fix? I was just using a (prevalent) example of how your attitude could seemingly be summed up by: Match fixing isn't happening. Well, ok, not much. Ok, well it isn't that big a deal. Oh, well it can't be stopped so can we stop talking about this? | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:56 itsjustatank wrote: sympathy level zero Pretty much my thoughts. Just because my boss doesn't pay me enough, it doesn't justify me embezzling from the company. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:58 Para199x wrote: Are you suggesting I'd be upset if somebody didn't match fix? I was just using a (prevalent) example of how your attitude could seemingly be summed up by: You must be deaf to sarcasm | ||
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DCStarcraftGall
102 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:56 RoninKenshin wrote: Does anyone else feel like KeSPA shares a minor portion of the blame for not giving Prime the adequate support that it was promised, and allowing its roster to be picked by every other team with money? Any scumbag (like some coach who prioritizes and puts more effort into the development of his girlfriend over his team) would do stupid things like this when at the end of his rope. Having said this, I have no sympathy for Gerrard in the slightest. I want to believe that Yoda was naive and pushed into this position, but there's no point in wishful thinking or speculating. Kids should have stuck with GSTL. *edit* everyone else said this while I was slowly typing it up The whole korean sc2 scene is to blame. When there are people WORKING pretty much 24/7 for no money except when they do well, then these things are bound to happen. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:56 Coypirus wrote: Wow feel bad for Gerrard now. He was the adult here. He made tens of thousands of dollars through crime, corrupted his players and severely damaged the scene just to keep his shitty team afloat... | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:59 Scarecrow wrote: He was the adult here. He made tens of thousands of dollars through crime, corrupted his players and severely damaged the scene just to keep his shitty team afloat... "Corrupted his players" easy there | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:55 LongShot27 wrote: When you're in the situation you don't exactly think straight lol wtf being in debt isn't THAT bad rofl, you can still think quite straight | ||
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Para199x
United Kingdom40 Posts
It is pretty strange behaviour to repeat the same sarcastic remarks several times and then argue with people about them. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On October 19 2015 12:00 ROOTFayth wrote: lol wtf being in debt isn't THAT bad rofl, you can still think quite straight Being in debt that can cripple you for the rest of your life has driven people to kill themselves. Stop saying stupid things. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
He's responsible for them and was meant to be looking out for their best interests, not offering them criminal opportunities in the team house. | ||
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Tamagoshi
Brazil981 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:59 DCStarcraftGall wrote: Nothing justifies matchfixing. Not when it affected so much only 5 years ago. Actually releasing the team would have been a better decision. Now, Gerrard just ruined not just his life, but YoDa's, Creator's, and all the SC2 scene. Creator's? | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
On October 19 2015 11:57 DCStarcraftGall wrote: http://www.fomos.kr/esports/news_view?lurl=/esports/news_list?news_cate_id=1&entry_id=15498 Apparently Gerrard ended up knee deep in debt trying to run the team without sponsor. He had already borrowed so much money from relatives and friends. Still doesn't justify what he just did to the Esports community though yeah that's not surprising, prime hasn't had a real sponsor....like ever.... should have just disbanded rather than resort to this shit though | ||
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iSometric
2221 Posts
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