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On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway.
He has a degree. Please educate yourself.
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On September 05 2015 00:50 yamato77 wrote:
It sort of proves his point that there are people even in this community willing to talk down about him as he struggles to find his place in the current landscape of esports. The man has done real journalism exposing issues in LoL and CS:GO and yet fans of the games detest him for it. Hilarious.
Yea he even wrote an open letter to valve denouncing the unfair treatement (undefinite bans) for the players banned in the match fixing scandal. The same players that spat on him for so long when he was trying to collect all the proofs about them fixing the match.
Yes he handles his twitter terribly and he does not deal with criticisms well, BUT you can't deny the fact that he is very passionnate about esport and has done a TON for the games he follows (admittedly I don't follow LoL, but I can vouch for cs).
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I commend him for doing a lot for e-sports, but I feel that the way he does it at times isn't completely professional. He outright insults a lot of parties which I don't think is something a proper news agency should do.
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On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself.
It's a lot easier to get a degree in journalism than it is to be a good journalist. I haven't read a ton of his articles -- I think only three -- but all that I've read could be more clear and concise and contained poor reasoning. I think journalism is a field with very high standards but not the pay or job security to match and esports journalism has got to be even worse. Richard Lewis's work, to me, is like a well written forum post but rates as poor work for a professional journalist. Much of his audience only ever reads video game forums or writing with even lower standards than that so his work is the best work that they ever see. And he's often taking the side of the people, or taking up an argument that is righteous or will stir up controversy, which gains him popularity but does not mean his work is high quality.
I have to guess that his mental health issues and the pressures and circumstances of the job must take their toll on his performance. Maybe his best work is quite good and in the right circumstances he could keep the quality of his work high. But from the sample I've seen, the quality of his work does not meet the standards that I look for from journalism. Can you imagine if I was the best SC2 player of the last five years? Because everyone better than me didn't play SC2? That's how I see it.
But like The_Masked_Shrimp said, best of luck to him anyway. And if he did more good than bad, then that's better than nothing. Maybe it's my own personal failing as a reader that I can't get past his style of writing and reasoning to enjoy the good in his work.
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Started watching him on unfiltered and since then I watch his YT quite often, even though the last time I played a game not sc2 was over a year. I love his content. Not only very entertaining, but you can rest assured, no bullshit. It's nice to keep up with the other e-sports. The last few weeks he seems to be going ROGUE. I just hope he doesn't burn too many bridges. Living off Patreon doesn't seem as reliable to me as a salaried job, but maybe I'm wrong.
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On September 05 2015 01:53 NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. It's a lot easier to get a degree in journalism than it is to be a good journalist. I haven't read a ton of his articles -- I think only three -- but all that I've read could be more clear and concise and contained poor reasoning. I think journalism is a field with very high standards but not the pay or job security to match and esports journalism has got to be even worse. Richard Lewis's work, to me, is like a well written forum post but rates as poor work for a professional journalist. Much of his audience only ever reads video game forums or writing with even lower standards than that so his work is the best work that they ever see. And he's often taking the side of the people, or taking up an argument that is righteous or will stir up controversy, which gains him popularity but does not mean his work is high quality. I have to guess that his mental health issues and the pressures and circumstances of the job must take their toll on his performance. Maybe his best work is quite good and in the right circumstances he could keep the quality of his work high. But from the sample I've seen, the quality of his work does not meet the standards that I look for from journalism. Can you imagine if I was the best SC2 player of the last five years? Because everyone better than me didn't play SC2? That's how I see it. But like The_Masked_Shrimp said, best of luck to him anyway. And if he did more good than bad, then that's better than nothing. Maybe it's my own personal failing as a reader that I can't get past his style of writing and reasoning to enjoy the good in his work.
Don't think that's entirely fair - I read a lot of the supposedly better German press like the faz, sz, spiegel and so on and while it may be not en par it still doesn't read much different from the average column or opinion piece around here and I definitely believe that having critical work like his is better than just going with the circle jerk.
I still consider him a goddamn hypocrite in many regards but a lot of his work seemed fine to me.
On September 04 2015 22:31 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2015 22:02 LongShot27 wrote:On September 04 2015 21:34 Roggay wrote:On September 04 2015 19:49 Otolia wrote:
Never liked him or Thorin for that matter. They both dish out punishment left and right but whine like little bitches whenever someone retaliates.
I'm glad they both moved on from SC2, though I still have to suffer their idiosyncrasies in CS:GO They are the best thing that happened to csgo. I can't understand why people keep talking about them like that. Also, Richard mentionned that he was thinking about quitting his job to lead/create the player's union in csgo, something the players really need in order to stop being fucked over by everyone in the business. That guy is a hero. Because they talk shit and can't take shit, plain and simple. They may talk shit but they do, or at least Richard does, valuable journalism that benefits the community. And he has every right to be angry when idiots like the reddit mods impede him from doing his job and when ignorant fools talk shit about him doing his job properly.
don't know if someone who belittles people with different opinions than his on a regular basis does have that right.
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On September 04 2015 22:39 LongShot27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2015 22:31 Destructicon wrote:On September 04 2015 22:02 LongShot27 wrote:On September 04 2015 21:34 Roggay wrote:On September 04 2015 19:49 Otolia wrote:
Never liked him or Thorin for that matter. They both dish out punishment left and right but whine like little bitches whenever someone retaliates.
I'm glad they both moved on from SC2, though I still have to suffer their idiosyncrasies in CS:GO They are the best thing that happened to csgo. I can't understand why people keep talking about them like that. Also, Richard mentionned that he was thinking about quitting his job to lead/create the player's union in csgo, something the players really need in order to stop being fucked over by everyone in the business. That guy is a hero. Because they talk shit and can't take shit, plain and simple. They may talk shit but they do, or at least Richard does, valuable journalism that benefits the community. And he has every right to be angry when idiots like the reddit mods impede him from doing his job and when ignorant fools talk shit about him doing his job properly. "Journalism is the business of lies."
All white man are racist, all women are feminist and all germans are facist.
So yes im sure all journalist are liars aswell.
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On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself.
So what.
I have a masters in astrophysics. This doesn't make me a scientist until I produce peer reviewed valuable research. I also have some friends that went through the same process but each time barely passing and they really hardly know anything about physics, yet they have a degree. Pretty much the same can be done out of any formation and it's not because you are out of a journalist school that you are a journalist.
Richard bases most of his work on hear-say and e-dramas and produces content comparable to celebrity tabloids like Closer; oh wait Closer is probably full of "real trained journalists" in your mind, because obviously they have a degree in journalism (do they?).
Present me 10 videos of acknowledged journalists of official channels that post videos of themselves posting opinion based videos in which they literally tell people what to think and make several statement without any sources to be linked.
I am not a hater on his work though, it's good that people like him are trying to create some kind of journalism for e-sports; it's just not there yet, there is still quite a road ahead for it to be comparable to professional journalism; starting with not insulting everyone you don't agree with, and presenting facts without judgement in order not to bias the audience.
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On September 05 2015 03:25 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. So what. I have a masters in astrophysics. This doesn't make me a scientist until I produce peer reviewed valuable research. I also have some friends that went through the same process but each time barely passing and they really hardly know anything about physics, yet they have a degree. Pretty much the same can be done out of any formation and it's not because you are out of a journalist school that you are a journalist. Richard bases most of his work on hear-say and e-dramas and produces content comparable to celebrity tabloids like Closer; oh wait Closer is probably full of "real trained journalists" in your mind, because obviously they have a degree in journalism (do they?). Present me 10 videos of acknowledged journalists of official channels that post videos of themselves posting opinion based videos in which they literally tell people what to think and make several statement without any sources to be linked. I am not a hater on his work though, it's good that people like him are trying to create some kind of journalism for e-sports; it's just not there yet, there is still quite a road ahead for it to be comparable to professional journalism; starting with not insulting everyone you don't agree with, and presenting facts without judgement.
You don't need a degree to be a scientist. Anyone can be a scientist.
I'm not going to blindly support RL, but the claims you are making seem outrageous. Which articles specifically were based on hearsay? Did it end up being true? Comparing his stuff to the tabloids makes you sound like a hater. A lot of what you call "E-drama" is relevant to the scene.
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On September 05 2015 03:44 TRaFFiC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 03:25 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. So what. I have a masters in astrophysics. This doesn't make me a scientist until I produce peer reviewed valuable research. I also have some friends that went through the same process but each time barely passing and they really hardly know anything about physics, yet they have a degree. Pretty much the same can be done out of any formation and it's not because you are out of a journalist school that you are a journalist. Richard bases most of his work on hear-say and e-dramas and produces content comparable to celebrity tabloids like Closer; oh wait Closer is probably full of "real trained journalists" in your mind, because obviously they have a degree in journalism (do they?). Present me 10 videos of acknowledged journalists of official channels that post videos of themselves posting opinion based videos in which they literally tell people what to think and make several statement without any sources to be linked. I am not a hater on his work though, it's good that people like him are trying to create some kind of journalism for e-sports; it's just not there yet, there is still quite a road ahead for it to be comparable to professional journalism; starting with not insulting everyone you don't agree with, and presenting facts without judgement. You don't need a degree to be a scientist. Anyone can be a scientist.
That's one of the most delusional things I have seen in a while. You don't need to be a scientist to do science I'd give you that. Some people became self-taught scientists but eventually you have to get peer-reviewed and be acknowledged.
It's like the amateur observers of space. They make really good work sometimes and discover new bodies, produce excellent images and some people are often seen commenting that they are even faster or better than professionals.
They are not.
Maybe that crushes your dreams and hopes towards anyone being able to do anything with a bit of will but that is how it is. An amateur can produce good work rather fast because they don't need to be peer-reviewed. In science discoveries need to be double checked, tested, and then again by a different team and that process takes time (usually several months, if you get lucky).
And I don't hate tabloid, they are what they are and often assume it completely. They exist to feed to curiosity of people about their favourite celebrity, I don't think anyone working there expects a pulitzer.
If you want examples you can check any of the "Trash Talk" videos of Richard (it's the actual title of the videos). He is more like a satirical journal if you don't like me comparing him to tabloids, except there are not those nice and funny caricature drawings to make up for the nonsense of the content.
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On September 05 2015 03:58 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 03:44 TRaFFiC wrote:On September 05 2015 03:25 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. So what. I have a masters in astrophysics. This doesn't make me a scientist until I produce peer reviewed valuable research. I also have some friends that went through the same process but each time barely passing and they really hardly know anything about physics, yet they have a degree. Pretty much the same can be done out of any formation and it's not because you are out of a journalist school that you are a journalist. Richard bases most of his work on hear-say and e-dramas and produces content comparable to celebrity tabloids like Closer; oh wait Closer is probably full of "real trained journalists" in your mind, because obviously they have a degree in journalism (do they?). Present me 10 videos of acknowledged journalists of official channels that post videos of themselves posting opinion based videos in which they literally tell people what to think and make several statement without any sources to be linked. I am not a hater on his work though, it's good that people like him are trying to create some kind of journalism for e-sports; it's just not there yet, there is still quite a road ahead for it to be comparable to professional journalism; starting with not insulting everyone you don't agree with, and presenting facts without judgement. You don't need a degree to be a scientist. Anyone can be a scientist. That's one of the most delusional things I have seen in a while. You don't need to be a scientist to do science I'd give you that. Some people became self-taught scientists but eventually you have to get peer-reviewed and be acknowledged. It's like the amateur observers of space. They make really good work sometimes and discover new bodies, produce excellent images and some people are often seen commenting that they are even faster or better than professionals. They are not. Maybe that crushes your dreams and hopes towards anyone being able to do anything with a bit of will but that is how it is. An amateur can produce good work rather fast because they don't need to be peer-reviewed. In science discoveries need to be double checked, tested, and then again by a different team and that process takes time (usually several months, if you get lucky).
Stating the obvious there. Of course, having a degree is the best way to go about doing pretty much anything. But if you are a brilliant scientist, a degree won't stop you from being successful. I see no rebuttal regarding your comments about RL's articles. You really shouldn't tarnish someone's reputation without backing it up. This would be shitty journalism!
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On September 05 2015 04:06 TRaFFiC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 03:58 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 03:44 TRaFFiC wrote:On September 05 2015 03:25 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. So what. I have a masters in astrophysics. This doesn't make me a scientist until I produce peer reviewed valuable research. I also have some friends that went through the same process but each time barely passing and they really hardly know anything about physics, yet they have a degree. Pretty much the same can be done out of any formation and it's not because you are out of a journalist school that you are a journalist. Richard bases most of his work on hear-say and e-dramas and produces content comparable to celebrity tabloids like Closer; oh wait Closer is probably full of "real trained journalists" in your mind, because obviously they have a degree in journalism (do they?). Present me 10 videos of acknowledged journalists of official channels that post videos of themselves posting opinion based videos in which they literally tell people what to think and make several statement without any sources to be linked. I am not a hater on his work though, it's good that people like him are trying to create some kind of journalism for e-sports; it's just not there yet, there is still quite a road ahead for it to be comparable to professional journalism; starting with not insulting everyone you don't agree with, and presenting facts without judgement. You don't need a degree to be a scientist. Anyone can be a scientist. That's one of the most delusional things I have seen in a while. You don't need to be a scientist to do science I'd give you that. Some people became self-taught scientists but eventually you have to get peer-reviewed and be acknowledged. It's like the amateur observers of space. They make really good work sometimes and discover new bodies, produce excellent images and some people are often seen commenting that they are even faster or better than professionals. They are not. Maybe that crushes your dreams and hopes towards anyone being able to do anything with a bit of will but that is how it is. An amateur can produce good work rather fast because they don't need to be peer-reviewed. In science discoveries need to be double checked, tested, and then again by a different team and that process takes time (usually several months, if you get lucky). Stating the obvious there. Of course, having a degree is the best way to go about doing pretty much anything. But if you are a brilliant scientist, a degree won't stop you from being successful. I see no rebuttal regarding your comments about RL's articles. You really shouldn't tarnish someone's reputation without backing it up. This would be shitty journalism!
With the notable difference that I never pretended to be a journalist myself, so it's OK if I suck at presenting info.
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On September 05 2015 04:08 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 04:06 TRaFFiC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 03:58 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 03:44 TRaFFiC wrote:On September 05 2015 03:25 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. So what. I have a masters in astrophysics. This doesn't make me a scientist until I produce peer reviewed valuable research. I also have some friends that went through the same process but each time barely passing and they really hardly know anything about physics, yet they have a degree. Pretty much the same can be done out of any formation and it's not because you are out of a journalist school that you are a journalist. Richard bases most of his work on hear-say and e-dramas and produces content comparable to celebrity tabloids like Closer; oh wait Closer is probably full of "real trained journalists" in your mind, because obviously they have a degree in journalism (do they?). Present me 10 videos of acknowledged journalists of official channels that post videos of themselves posting opinion based videos in which they literally tell people what to think and make several statement without any sources to be linked. I am not a hater on his work though, it's good that people like him are trying to create some kind of journalism for e-sports; it's just not there yet, there is still quite a road ahead for it to be comparable to professional journalism; starting with not insulting everyone you don't agree with, and presenting facts without judgement. You don't need a degree to be a scientist. Anyone can be a scientist. That's one of the most delusional things I have seen in a while. You don't need to be a scientist to do science I'd give you that. Some people became self-taught scientists but eventually you have to get peer-reviewed and be acknowledged. It's like the amateur observers of space. They make really good work sometimes and discover new bodies, produce excellent images and some people are often seen commenting that they are even faster or better than professionals. They are not. Maybe that crushes your dreams and hopes towards anyone being able to do anything with a bit of will but that is how it is. An amateur can produce good work rather fast because they don't need to be peer-reviewed. In science discoveries need to be double checked, tested, and then again by a different team and that process takes time (usually several months, if you get lucky). Stating the obvious there. Of course, having a degree is the best way to go about doing pretty much anything. But if you are a brilliant scientist, a degree won't stop you from being successful. I see no rebuttal regarding your comments about RL's articles. You really shouldn't tarnish someone's reputation without backing it up. This would be shitty journalism! With the notable difference that I never pretended to be a journalist myself, so it's OK if I suck at presenting info.
Random. Who is pretending to be a journalist? Are you insinuating RL is a pretend journalist? lol
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No I am not insinuating anything. I am pretty blunt most of the time so if you feel like i'm trying to imply something in between lines there is probably a misunderstanding. I am saying RL doesn't meet the standards of objectivity you can see in the "usual" channels of information and thus doesn't appear to me as a "professional" journalist. I put "" because obviously if he is making a living from it he is a professional by definition. But there is also an etiquette attached to journalism which he is lacking I think. At the same time that's just my opinion, nothing to get overly concerned about.
And what I just said is just true. I am no journalist. So none should really care if I don't relay information like a professional would.
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His dissenting opinions were like a breath of fresh air.
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I mean...yeh we are tl and we ate objective geniuses who know all about journalism,science , women , make 6 figures and still have 300apm...but this is a guy who is passionate about esports and he has gone through a really traumatic time it seems to me
Going to give him my support and wish him all the best rather than debate his journalism credentials In a dispassionate way.
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This thread is such a mess already (':
Best of luck to RL, not necessarily a fan of his work but well.
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so is he getting a real job finally
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Whenever I see this headline it makes me think he died, lol. "Richard lewis has ...  "
On topic, he was writing some good articles. I wouldn't compare him to Thorin.
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On September 05 2015 02:56 Whoranzone wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 01:53 NonY wrote:On September 05 2015 00:51 nkr wrote:On September 04 2015 23:11 The_Masked_Shrimp wrote:
I will always be amazed how in e-sports the commentators and "journalists" (it's quite unrespectful to real trained journalists to call yourself that just because you opened a twitter account and started posting stuff on it) receive so much attention, even more than players sometimes. It just shows how e-sports have been mismanaged and didn't take a proper example from established sports league. I guess this happens when your average manager in the field is below 30 years old (when it started).
Best of luck to him anyway. He has a degree. Please educate yourself. It's a lot easier to get a degree in journalism than it is to be a good journalist. I haven't read a ton of his articles -- I think only three -- but all that I've read could be more clear and concise and contained poor reasoning. I think journalism is a field with very high standards but not the pay or job security to match and esports journalism has got to be even worse. Richard Lewis's work, to me, is like a well written forum post but rates as poor work for a professional journalist. Much of his audience only ever reads video game forums or writing with even lower standards than that so his work is the best work that they ever see. And he's often taking the side of the people, or taking up an argument that is righteous or will stir up controversy, which gains him popularity but does not mean his work is high quality. I have to guess that his mental health issues and the pressures and circumstances of the job must take their toll on his performance. Maybe his best work is quite good and in the right circumstances he could keep the quality of his work high. But from the sample I've seen, the quality of his work does not meet the standards that I look for from journalism. Can you imagine if I was the best SC2 player of the last five years? Because everyone better than me didn't play SC2? That's how I see it. But like The_Masked_Shrimp said, best of luck to him anyway. And if he did more good than bad, then that's better than nothing. Maybe it's my own personal failing as a reader that I can't get past his style of writing and reasoning to enjoy the good in his work. Don't think that's entirely fair - I read a lot of the supposedly better German press like the faz, sz, spiegel and so on and while it may be not en par it still doesn't read much different from the average column or opinion piece around here and I definitely believe that having critical work like his is better than just going with the circle jerk. I still consider him a goddamn hypocrite in many regards but a lot of his work seemed fine to me.
I don't understand how it's unfair for me to give my opinion. But what really confuses me is that you proceed to follow my example and do a similar analysis as I did after you questioned if what I did was fair. Are you being critical of the way I went about the topic or not? Are you purposely being unfair too or purposely being a hypocrite or just accidentally doing one of those? I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Maybe a parody of Lewis? haha
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