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[SPL'15] The Afterlife

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[SPL'15] The Afterlife

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
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June 28th, 2015 22:29 GMT
Table of Contents

Welcome to the Afterlife

Roster Breakdowns

Analysis

Welcome to the Afterlife


by banjoetheredskin

As ByuL typed out against Zest in Week 6, his blank look indicated a numb acceptance. CJ Entus had been outplayed for the fourth time. At that point, their hopes of reaching the playoffs were one foot in the grave. The champions of the previous round were on the verge of losing the opportunity to defend their title. As rest of the week unfolded, the gauntlet of conditions for CJ to advance worsened. Their only consolation was that the first step was to beat Prime 3-0. Meanwhile, Jin Air would have had a difficult time advancing if they didn’t beat Samsung. Fortunately for them, Rogue managed to send his team through with an ace win over Solar. This played into CJ’s hand as well, and satisfied another criterion required for them to steal fourth place. KT beat MVP in a match as competitive as Samsung versus Jin Air, and all that was left for CJ was a 3-0 win by SKT. The final close call was the base trade in MyuNgSiK versus soO, and in a critical blunder MyuNgSiK lost the game, all but securing the final spot in the playoffs for CJ. So here they are, the first team in SC2 Proleague's history to advance to a playoffs with a losing record.

In just the past two years, CJ and Jin Air will suit up for their fifth head-to-head match in the playoffs. CJ’s victory in the Round 2 Finals evened up the score, and at 2-2, a budding rivalry will continue to develop in this bronze match. It began last season as CJ, a team that started out near the bottom, steadily improved and worked their way up into the playoff picture with a few spectacular performances. Jin Air came in as a frontrunner because of their great depth, and kept themselves in the contest for second place the entire year. In 2015, as CJ further improve and Jin Air iron out their weaknesses from last year, the two teams remain in close competition for first place, with SKT on their heels threatening. It’s a disappointment for both teams that one will have to be eliminated as early as the bronze match, and winning here will go a long way in grabbing a crucial bye or two when the season playoffs roll around.

[W/N: This year’s season playoffs follow the format of the round playoffs, unlike last year, so the overall first and second place teams will receive byes the way the top round robin teams do now.]

Roster Breakdown



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CJ Entus
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CJ, like all of the teams that are typically successful enough to reach the playoffs, have a few mainstay players who will be sent out above all others, because they are just that good. Aces herO and ByuL will certainly play, barring an all-kill by the former, and it is likely that ByuL will be the final boss. Although he is not in every situation necessarily the best player, his individual league success, particularly a GSL finals, and winning record against Maru have solidified him as an equal substitute for herO when push comes to shove. In fact it was during the finals of Round 2 that ByuL was fielded as the fourth and final player, achieving the unlikely reverse-three kill to send his team home with the gold.

Moving down the hierarchy, there is Bbyong. Definitively a level above the remaining teammates, the Terran identified by his love for mech, an abundance of widow mine drops, and multi-pronged aggression is a clear third-best player on the team. Given the map order especially, Bbyong should be the third player CJ use, one before the final stop at ByuL, and may even have a crafty build prepared specifically for one of Jin Air’s heavier hitters. Further down the bench are sKyHigh, Hush, and RagnaroK. They have been scheduled the most as fourth men, though each has had limited success. Hush remains a PvP expert, and with Jin Air’s main Protoss player lined up first, it’s unlikely his name will be called. sKyHigh has struggled the most in TvT, with mixed results in TvZ and TvP as he takes after his teammate Bbyong with potent mech play and early factory aggression. RagnaroK must have a favorable reputation in practice, for he was scheduled to play three times in his first round after joining the roster. However, twice CJ won the match 3-0 before he had his moment. In his only actual game he lost to soO’s unbeatable ZvZ, so not much can be said for where RagnaroK’s skill is, but it seems unlikely that Coach Park will feel like he’s needed. Sora could perhaps fall into this category, after earning two games this round but losing them both from at the very least neutral positions. It appears more that CJ have been tossing different fourth men around to see if someone sticks, and Sora was just another one who didn’t. Finally, Bunny and Trust haven’t played all season, so don’t expect that to change.



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Jin Air Green Wings
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Similar to CJ, Jin Air have a core of three great players and then a rotating fourth spot. Super ace Maru leads the pack as someone they can rely on to beat anyone. He has anchored their team in the all kill format with multiple kills just about every time he comes out, unless he’s there only to close out the win. With superb TvP and excellent TvT, the only real concern Maru should have is drawing his weakest matchup in TvZ. ByuL in particular has caused problems for the Jin Air Terran, so he will either look to avoid that entirely or design a build specifically to work around his flaws with only one formidable Zerg opponent. Right behind Maru are sOs and Rogue, two players who have had their share of ups and downs. Last year sOs finished tied for first in wins, and this year Rogue sits second. Rogue has also made two ace appearances, winning both. While sOs’ reputation has for a longer time been that of a crafty player who wins largely due to his preparation, Rogue’s notoriety for unveiling special builds has doubled over the past year. In the Round 2 finals against CJ, Rogue even earned a three-kill over herO, sKyHigh, and Bbyong with well-calculated responses to their respective tendencies.

Cure and Trap are the only two who have had substantial playtime to be considered a core part of the roster, and their utility is largely situational. Cure’s slump in TvT recently suggests his more well-established TvP and TvZ are ideal for Jin Air, so he might be expected to take care of herO or ByuL should it come to that. Trap has played only 10 games this season to Cure’s 20, and with only a run in IEM Katowice to judge him otherwise, Coach Cha will be the one to show where Trap is most useful. Just from watching his games, he is quite comfortable in PvZ, which diversifies Jin Air’s options against ByuL. The remainder of the lineup: Terminator, Pigbaby, Symbol, and Check have combined for four games. Like Bunny and Trust on CJ, it should go without saying that there are no conceivable situations in which they would be chosen, save a very specific snipe on a player like herO or ByuL.



Player and Map Analysis



(P)sOs < Deadwing LE > (P)herO
< Echo LE >
< Expedition Lost >
< Cactus Valley LE >
< Vaani Research Station >
< Coda LE >
< Deadwing LE >



Deadwing is by design a map Protosses have loved, and throughout its duration in Proleague it has seen by far the most PvPs. sOs is no surprise here, especially with another Protoss-friendly map, Echo, second on the list. In their previous meeting, CJ chose to start herO and drew a favorable PvT against Cure. They have repeated this tactic, but now, the odds are much more indecisive. sOs has historically done very well to take advantage of herO’s style and the ample amount of material he has left to study. However, there will be no proxy gates on a four player map, and proxy tech buildings (or hidden bases, since we’re talking about sOs) are more run-of-the-mill. When herO advanced out of the all Protoss group in S2SL, he showed marked improvement in the matchup. What was once his Achilles heel is now just statistically his weakest matchup, more akin to Maru’s TvZ. With a game that could go either way, a lot of pressure falls on this first map to set the team into a rhythm with a one map advantage, which allows for the flexibility of throwing away one player to attempt a snipe.

Further down the list is Expedition Lost, where it is quite likely Rogue will come out if he hasn’t already, or if he is needed. Cactus Valley, Vaani Research Station, and Coda offer good opportunities for the CJ Terrans to do some work, but that also applies to Maru. With Jin Air’s previously demonstrated confidence in Rogue to take the reins in the ace match, it’s not implausible that they will deploy Maru relatively early. If he can seal the match there, that’s great for them. If not, they still have a deadly Zerg without the fear of herO (with the exception of an all-kill, but herO has yet to accumulate more than two kills in a playoffs match). Even so, Rogue has a 3-1 record against herO in their recent meetings. Just like last time, the odds seem to stack up Jin Air’s favor. Everything played into their hands, and they were moments from a 4-1 stomp, when ByuL decided it was his time to shine. It was an improbable end to what would have been the teams’ most one-sided meeting in the playoffs. But in this format, we can always expect the unexpected.




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Writers: banjoetheredskin
Graphics: Madalina
Photo Credit: Patrick Strack
Editor(s): DarkLordOlli
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 28 2015 22:43 GMT
#2
Season's playoffs are with Bronze/Silver/Gold matches? That's not cool :/ Will the Bronze and Silver matches be regular/AK/regular Bo3 at least?
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18648 Posts
June 28 2015 22:45 GMT
#3
On June 29 2015 07:43 OtherWorld wrote:
Season's playoffs are with Bronze/Silver/Gold matches? That's not cool :/ Will the Bronze and Silver matches be regular/AK/regular Bo3 at least?


well it's only fair that regular season results gets rewarded imo
stif
Profile Joined December 2012
United States12 Posts
June 28 2015 22:47 GMT
#4
Predictions

sOs over hero on Deadwing
sOs over hush on Echo
Bbyong over sOs on Expedition Lost
Bbyong over Cure on Cactus Valley
Maru over Bbyong on Vaani
Maru over Byul on Coda

4-2 JAGW

Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13998 Posts
June 28 2015 22:55 GMT
#5
sOs 4-0 Hush will be a problem though
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
June 28 2015 23:17 GMT
#6
Predictions
sOs 0-1 herO
Rogue 1-1 herO
Rogue 2-1 sKyHigh
Rogue 3-1 Bbyong
Rogue 4-1 ByuL
Writermaru pls
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
June 28 2015 23:33 GMT
#7
On June 29 2015 08:17 Soularion wrote:
Predictions
sOs 0-1 herO
Rogue 1-1 herO
Rogue 2-1 sKyHigh
Rogue 3-1 Bbyong
Rogue 4-1 ByuL


Do you always go with the hipster predictions? I mean Rogue's good, and I have my money on Jin Air as well, but 4-2 for Jin Air with Maru getting to play is much much more likely.

Jin Air 4-1 if herO loses his match, 4-2 or maybe 4-3 if herO wins against sOs (Echo is pretty damn good for PvZ, see today's lilbow vs hydra, where the zerg was double the workers, had an army advantage, mutas was still killing probes so very few reinforcements, and somehow the game was close because of FFs and those innumerous tight ramps).
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 28 2015 23:45 GMT
#8
On June 29 2015 07:45 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:43 OtherWorld wrote:
Season's playoffs are with Bronze/Silver/Gold matches? That's not cool :/ Will the Bronze and Silver matches be regular/AK/regular Bo3 at least?


well it's only fair that regular season results gets rewarded imo

Yeah but basically the 3rd and 4th teams have a very, very low chance of winning it. The 1st team gets a huge advantage with having potentially 2 matches (and maybe two Bo3s) of their opponent to study.

On June 29 2015 08:17 Soularion wrote:
Predictions
sOs 0-1 herO
Rogue 1-1 herO
Rogue 2-1 sKyHigh
Rogue 3-1 Bbyong
Rogue 4-1 ByuL

I agree with the beginning and the Rogue 3-kill, but then ByuL will reverse 3-kill for maximal ByuLshit
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
June 29 2015 00:06 GMT
#9
On June 29 2015 08:33 EngrishTeacher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 08:17 Soularion wrote:
Predictions
sOs 0-1 herO
Rogue 1-1 herO
Rogue 2-1 sKyHigh
Rogue 3-1 Bbyong
Rogue 4-1 ByuL


Do you always go with the hipster predictions? I mean Rogue's good, and I have my money on Jin Air as well, but 4-2 for Jin Air with Maru getting to play is much much more likely.

Jin Air 4-1 if herO loses his match, 4-2 or maybe 4-3 if herO wins against sOs (Echo is pretty damn good for PvZ, see today's lilbow vs hydra, where the zerg was double the workers, had an army advantage, mutas was still killing probes so very few reinforcements, and somehow the game was close because of FFs and those innumerous tight ramps).

I am Rogue fan #1, and I think he has really good matchups against everyone on CJ. ByuL getting a win against him is pretty likely as well, but I just think he'll be more prepared this time around. I'd honestly be significantly less surprised at a Rogue all-kill than a Maru all-kill.
Writermaru pls
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19364 Posts
June 29 2015 00:22 GMT
#10
Who did DLO vote for? That's what is most important.
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ukiya2004
Profile Joined March 2014
199 Posts
June 29 2015 01:23 GMT
#11
If herO loses to sOs, I dont see CJ ever beating Jin Air unless Byul goes super saiyan again.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
June 29 2015 03:57 GMT
#12
On June 29 2015 07:43 OtherWorld wrote:
Season's playoffs are with Bronze/Silver/Gold matches? That's not cool :/ Will the Bronze and Silver matches be regular/AK/regular Bo3 at least?

According to LP, the bronze and silver matches will be bo3, in which case they'll probably alternate Proleague format, all-kill format, Proleague format. But the gold match is still a bo1 and will almost certainly be Proleague format. I liked last year's format better personally.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 29 2015 04:47 GMT
#13
On June 29 2015 09:22 BisuDagger wrote:
Who did DLO vote for? That's what is most important.

CJ cause he's a herO fanboy and JA doesnt have toss he likes
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
June 29 2015 06:40 GMT
#14
On June 29 2015 12:57 banjoetheredskin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 07:43 OtherWorld wrote:
Season's playoffs are with Bronze/Silver/Gold matches? That's not cool :/ Will the Bronze and Silver matches be regular/AK/regular Bo3 at least?

According to LP, the bronze and silver matches will be bo3, in which case they'll probably alternate Proleague format, all-kill format, Proleague format. But the gold match is still a bo1 and will almost certainly be Proleague format. I liked last year's format better personally.

Ok, thanks !
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 29 2015 08:09 GMT
#15
On June 29 2015 09:22 BisuDagger wrote:
Who did DLO vote for? That's what is most important.


I voted Jin Air cause sOs is herO's worst nightmare and they needed him against Maru.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18648 Posts
June 29 2015 09:02 GMT
#16
On June 29 2015 13:47 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 09:22 BisuDagger wrote:
Who did DLO vote for? That's what is most important.

CJ cause he's a herO fanboy and JA doesnt have toss he likes


Is that a troll posting?
herO is like the only protoss DLO doesn't like ^^
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
June 29 2015 17:00 GMT
#17
sOs GEEZ calm down
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