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TL Strategy Presents: Strat Chat - Page 5

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GramCracker
Profile Joined May 2011
United States18 Posts
June 26 2015 21:23 GMT
#81
Glad to see this! Looking forward to tuning in. <3 TL Strategy.
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 11:23:50
June 27 2015 11:15 GMT
#82
Reminder once again that the show starts at 5:00pm EDT today on www.twitch.tv/JohnSC2 !

We will be taking some questions at the end of the show from Twitter (@TLStrategyChat), the Twitch chat, and also questions from this thread (in case you can't make the show). If you can't make it today, we understand . VoDs and audio recordings will be posted so that you can enjoy it in your spare time ^^.

P.S. Shiroiusagi made us an absolutely incredible overlay in a single day. Everyone should send a thank you note to her for being TL's graphics wizard :D.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1939 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-27 11:24:26
June 27 2015 11:20 GMT
#83
The community has shown wild levels of interest for this new innovative (and dare I say revolutionary) approach concerning the Economy Model in LotV:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/legacy-of-the-void/488630-brilliant-new-lotv-economy-model

They're calling it GEM and most see it as the idea that will save LotV from being an esport failure.

My question to you at TL Strat Chat is, how are you planning on contributing to this concept as valued community representatives ?
geiko.813 (EU)
tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-28 01:52:22
June 27 2015 23:21 GMT
#84
Nice show today. I'm looking forward to the vods in the op.

I have some ideas and questions I would like to hear feedback on. So I guess the two new ideas to implement for fun I'm throwing around that not too many people seem to notice are having a clan ladder system and a casual ladder with more game options. I proposed a way to implement more game options by having additional tech items, Tech and ability vetoes. This way there is a bit more strategy going into the matches. My thread is here.

While my thread is one specific way to implement these key ideas. (I'm still making the pictures for the thread.) I'm wondering what your thoughts are on having a Casual ladder with more options. A clan ladder, where you can challenge other clans? Clan Observer modes? Daily tournaments? maps with additional constraints? purchaseable items in the game? Purchasable tournament replays? More committed tech tree options? Tech vetoes? ability vetoes? More abilities per units with added cost?

Smile
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
June 28 2015 10:25 GMT
#85
You should add this to the calendar!
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Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
June 28 2015 18:31 GMT
#86
On June 28 2015 19:25 Edpayasugo wrote:
You should add this to the calendar!


It was on the calendar, but wasn't listed as a featured stream, so I think a lot of people missed it.

That's okay, VOD will be uploaded soon, WCS is slowing things down a bit, and we'll move on to the next show in a few weeks.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
June 28 2015 20:06 GMT
#87
Best show of 2015 so far. Very enlightening.
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
June 28 2015 20:21 GMT
#88
<3 thank you!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
June 28 2015 22:34 GMT
#89
On June 29 2015 05:06 Superouman wrote:
Best show of 2015 so far. Very enlightening.


High praise from a great mapmaker :D.

Have any criticisms or things you particularly liked so we can highlight them further?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
June 28 2015 22:46 GMT
#90
On June 29 2015 07:34 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2015 05:06 Superouman wrote:
Best show of 2015 so far. Very enlightening.


High praise from a great mapmaker :D.

Have any criticisms or things you particularly liked so we can highlight them further?

the rants about ZvP were pretty great
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Bodzilla
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia472 Posts
June 29 2015 01:59 GMT
#91
Wheres the vods?
when life gives you lemons, make banelings
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-29 03:27:19
June 29 2015 03:26 GMT
#92
On June 29 2015 10:59 Bodzilla wrote:
Wheres the vods?


We're having a few technical difficulties, and it's taking longer than expected to upload them to Youtube. However! they should be up by tomorrow evening at the latest ^^.

EDIT: We'll be making an official archive thread as well, so no need to worry about checking back here over and over again.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
June 29 2015 03:33 GMT
#93
Thanks to Meavis I missed the show, are you guys atm planning to make another episode?

Also I'm waiting for the vods eagerly, John, plz.
@Kantuva | Mapmaker | KTVMaps.wordpress.com | Check my profile to see my TL map threads, and you can search for KTV in the Custom Games section to play them.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
June 29 2015 03:41 GMT
#94
On June 29 2015 12:33 Uvantak wrote:
Thanks to Meavis I missed the show, are you guys atm planning to make another episode?

Also I'm waiting for the vods eagerly, John, plz.


Should be bi-weekly.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
June 29 2015 14:36 GMT
#95


The VoD is up!
Graphics@shiroiusagi_ | shiroiusagi.net
Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
June 29 2015 15:24 GMT
#96
missed it because of kantu, watched the vod though, enjoyed it and seems to have potential.
if you guys ever want to talk about map specific strategies I'd love to be part of it.
"Not you."
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
June 29 2015 15:43 GMT
#97
Am the only one that things Whitewing sounds a tiny bit like Peter griffin?
Good even if you guys do the typical TL thing and argue over the definition of a word before talking about fixing a problem.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-29 17:05:28
June 29 2015 17:05 GMT
#98
On June 30 2015 00:43 Ovid wrote:
Am the only one that things Whitewing sounds a tiny bit like Peter griffin?
Good even if you guys do the typical TL thing and argue over the definition of a word before talking about fixing a problem.


You gotta make sure everyone's on the right page before you can get down to business.

And that's a comment I've never heard before.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
July 01 2015 18:22 GMT
#99
Im surprised you guys argueed so much about the definition of hard counter. It is so simple for me:
When talking about units:
A hard counter is a unit that no matter how the enemy plays theirs is always going to win,

Immortal tank is the best case. It doesn't matter if you got more tanks, it doesnt matter how well you play your tanks, you will always going to lose against immortals, and you'll need to transition out of them.

A soft counter unit would be marines and mutas, or thors and mutas. Marines and thors both counter mutas, yes, but they don't forc you out of doing mutas. When they get into the field you'll have a harder time with your mutas, but if you are good enough, you can still do tons of stuff with them, harrass, poke, pick off lonely units etc.

Phoenix vs mutas is another hard counter. Once the protoss got phoenix with range forget you even have mutas.

This is ofcourse talking about single units, but what about compositions?

Well a hard counter composition would be Colossus+Templar+gateway units against Hydra roach. At that point no matter how well you play you are going to lose, unless you transition or add other units like vipers and stuff.

A soft counter would be Colossus+templar vs MMM. While AoE counters bio, it doesn't force you out of it, you don't need to transition or lose. While bio is going to have a harder time, a MMM player can still win.

Basically, a soft counter doesn't force you out of a unit/comp inmediately, you still can do stuff with your units, in short they arent completely countered,
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
July 01 2015 21:07 GMT
#100
On June 29 2015 03:31 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2015 19:25 Edpayasugo wrote:
You should add this to the calendar!


It was on the calendar, but wasn't listed as a featured stream, so I think a lot of people missed it.

That's okay, VOD will be uploaded soon, WCS is slowing things down a bit, and we'll move on to the next show in a few weeks.



I actually got the day wrong T.T
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