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the funny thing about it is that even after paying all i get is a 720p stream that looks more like 480p (and has been offline or lagging for a lot of the games this season) with the same casters for now 5 years that basically dont watch any other sc2 games than the ones theyre casting and dont even care about those anymore while the ssl is kinda doing everything else better. free 1080p, engaged casters and quick youtube vods. goodbye gsl
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For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
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Hassan_RO, the Azubu stream is free in Source quality and it looks EXCELLENT. Also, Azubu has better streams overall.
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On June 12 2015 04:16 SC2Toastie wrote:
Hassan_RO, the Azubu stream is free in Source quality and it looks EXCELLENT. Also, Azubu has better streams overall.
And you can rewind and rewatch mid-stream if you missed something.
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On June 11 2015 20:50 PBateman wrote:
the funny thing about it is that even after paying all i get is a 720p stream that looks more like 480p (and has been offline or lagging for a lot of the games this season) with the same casters for now 5 years that basically dont watch any other sc2 games than the ones theyre casting and dont even care about those anymore while the ssl is kinda doing everything else better. free 1080p, engaged casters and quick youtube vods. goodbye gsl
its almost like when a thoroughly independent organization does the production you get a 1st rate product.
when the production is ultimately backed by "the man" u end up with a production that feels like its run by a government sponsored union shop.
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On June 12 2015 04:46 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 11 2015 20:50 PBateman wrote:
the funny thing about it is that even after paying all i get is a 720p stream that looks more like 480p (and has been offline or lagging for a lot of the games this season) with the same casters for now 5 years that basically dont watch any other sc2 games than the ones theyre casting and dont even care about those anymore while the ssl is kinda doing everything else better. free 1080p, engaged casters and quick youtube vods. goodbye gsl its almost like when a thoroughly independent organization does the production you get a 1st rate product. when the production is ultimately backed by "the man" u end up with a production that feels like its run by a government sponsored union shop.
So are you blaming gsl or twitch?
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I will give you my money, but change caster. They don't know Starcraft 2 anymore
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I want to support them but am still unhappy about that one time when I paid then GSL became free to watch thanks to blizzard. No refund/communication at all. Bad PR is bad.
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On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free.
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On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free.
Imo, the only major upside.
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On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside.
Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season.
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I said it before, but I will say it for more people to get it. Tastosis, though not everyone's cup of tea, gives a unique brand of casting that I've never seen before. Yes, they do go off topic, but that's the beauty of it.
My favorite pass time is to rewatch sc2 VODs and I watch mostly VODs of tastosis casting. Why? Because they change topic frequently in every match and keeps me entertained even if it's not always funny.
Yet, I haven't noticed them go off topic as much as the TL community complains. They're spot on most of the time. They cast when they need to and joke around when there's nothing much to say.
I seriously don't understand what's so bad about tastosis except that they don't "hype" with "ooooooh"s and "oh no!"s. I even find that repetitive after a while. Only Apollo seems to do that well in sc2.
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On June 12 2015 05:24 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside. Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season.
My point still stands, though it's a major advantage.
About these casters, seriously, why do you people seem to hate the duo? Please give me some hard arguments.
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On June 12 2015 05:34 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 05:24 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside. Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season. My point still stands, though it's a major advantage. About these casters, seriously, why do you people seem to hate the duo? Please give me some hard arguments.
People probably don't really hate them as much as they're disappointed. They used to be the absolute best casting duo. They've been getting worse and worse and you can tell that they don't spend nearly as much time with Starcraft 2 as they probably should (Tasteless more so than Artosis) considering their jobs have an analytical component.
As for the going off topic part, they've had days where they barely talked about the games they were casting. I can see how that annoys people.
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On June 12 2015 05:42 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 05:34 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:24 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside. Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season. My point still stands, though it's a major advantage. About these casters, seriously, why do you people seem to hate the duo? Please give me some hard arguments. People probably don't really hate them as much as they're disappointed. They used to be the absolute best casting duo. They've been getting worse and worse and you can tell that they don't spend nearly as much time with Starcraft 2 as they probably should (Tasteless more so than Artosis) considering their jobs have an analytical component. As for the going off topic part, they've had days where they barely talked about the games they were casting. I can see how that annoys people.
It's true that tastosis changed. For worse though? Not necessarily. Sure, their "hype" seems to have decreased (I didn't watch much Wol), but they're calmer and more analytical imo and you need to sacrifice the hyping noise for that. At the very least, they seem to predict builds and how player A would play pretty well, and that shows you that they are doing their research.
In terms of talking off the topic, it's sth new that I appreciate very much. As I said before, it give good replay value. You simply can't expect the duo to always do great on something they're experimenting on.
The main point is however, the duo is still miles ahead of Wolf/Moonglade/Valdes. Wolf is the most experienced and professional of the three, but the things that other two say just makes me cringe sometimes. You think tastosis got worse? Well, at least they know what they're talking about and have a memory span of even back in brood war days. The other three have potential, but you can't really compare them with tastosis in professional skill right now.
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For more info, Kaeleris and Apollo used to be more noisy and "passionate" in their cast. Now instead of such passion, they are more monotone. This is because they know more of what players are doing now and therefore less surprised and excited. Second, they need some time to think about what they are going to say if they're to give sth more constructive than "A is in trouble"
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On June 12 2015 06:03 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 05:42 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:34 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:24 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside. Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season. My point still stands, though it's a major advantage. About these casters, seriously, why do you people seem to hate the duo? Please give me some hard arguments. People probably don't really hate them as much as they're disappointed. They used to be the absolute best casting duo. They've been getting worse and worse and you can tell that they don't spend nearly as much time with Starcraft 2 as they probably should (Tasteless more so than Artosis) considering their jobs have an analytical component. As for the going off topic part, they've had days where they barely talked about the games they were casting. I can see how that annoys people. It's true that tastosis changed. For worse though? Not necessarily. Sure, their "hype" seems to have decreased (I didn't watch much Wol), but they're calmer and more analytical imo and you need to sacrifice the hyping noise for that. At the very least, they seem to predict builds and how player A would play pretty well, and that shows you that they are doing their research. In terms of talking off the topic, it's sth new that I appreciate very much. As I said before, it give good replay value. You simply can't expect the duo to always do great on something they're experimenting on. The main point is however, the duo is still miles ahead of Wolf/Moonglade/Valdes. Wolf is the most experienced and professional of the three, but the things that other two say just makes me cringe sometimes. You think tastosis got worse? Well, at least they know what they're talking about and have a memory span of even back in brood war days. The other three have potential, but you can't really compare them with tastosis in professional skill right now.
Really? I'd say Wolf makes the most mistakes of those three and Moonglade is by far the most knowledgeable
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On June 12 2015 06:21 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 06:03 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:42 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:34 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:24 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside. Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season. My point still stands, though it's a major advantage. About these casters, seriously, why do you people seem to hate the duo? Please give me some hard arguments. People probably don't really hate them as much as they're disappointed. They used to be the absolute best casting duo. They've been getting worse and worse and you can tell that they don't spend nearly as much time with Starcraft 2 as they probably should (Tasteless more so than Artosis) considering their jobs have an analytical component. As for the going off topic part, they've had days where they barely talked about the games they were casting. I can see how that annoys people. It's true that tastosis changed. For worse though? Not necessarily. Sure, their "hype" seems to have decreased (I didn't watch much Wol), but they're calmer and more analytical imo and you need to sacrifice the hyping noise for that. At the very least, they seem to predict builds and how player A would play pretty well, and that shows you that they are doing their research. In terms of talking off the topic, it's sth new that I appreciate very much. As I said before, it give good replay value. You simply can't expect the duo to always do great on something they're experimenting on. The main point is however, the duo is still miles ahead of Wolf/Moonglade/Valdes. Wolf is the most experienced and professional of the three, but the things that other two say just makes me cringe sometimes. You think tastosis got worse? Well, at least they know what they're talking about and have a memory span of even back in brood war days. The other three have potential, but you can't really compare them with tastosis in professional skill right now. Really? I'd say Wolf makes the most mistakes of those three and Moonglade is by far the most knowledgeable
Recently, I'd say Wolf is most professional just due to the experience of talking non-stop. I mean he was bad as Valdes last year but he certainly improved (I really am sorry for keep picking Valdes, but I can't pick Moonglade),
Moonglade on the other hand, is calmer and more accurate in what he says overall. But he also tends to follow what the others are doing, which makes his persona a little less noticeable. This is maybe why I chose Wolf over Moonglade so easily without thinking deeply.
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On June 12 2015 06:33 swissman777 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2015 06:21 Penev wrote:On June 12 2015 06:03 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:42 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:34 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:24 Elentos wrote:On June 12 2015 05:22 swissman777 wrote:On June 12 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote:On June 12 2015 04:11 Hassan_RO wrote:
For anyone praising the hell out of SSL. I watched the RO4 today via TL link/twitch
and the stream was on medium quality. Medium quality is medium quality - you can understand whats going on, but thats about it, not the best. If i wanted higher quality or Source, i had to pay a subcription - 5 bucks.
So i really dont get where this whole "'SSL streams HQ for free"' comes from - or maybe i did something wrong.
For comparison after paying my subsrciption i watched GSL yesterday, on Source.
The picture was crystal clear (hell i could count the zits on MyungSik's face) and as far as i watched, there wasn't any lag or other problems.
Of course Tastosis was off at times, you can see they sometimes get bored, but i support them none the less and i am happy with my choice.
SSL has another upside by uploading vods to youtube almost instantly for free. Imo, the only major upside. Free source on Azubu. Also casters who care about Starcraft more than 3 times a season. My point still stands, though it's a major advantage. About these casters, seriously, why do you people seem to hate the duo? Please give me some hard arguments. People probably don't really hate them as much as they're disappointed. They used to be the absolute best casting duo. They've been getting worse and worse and you can tell that they don't spend nearly as much time with Starcraft 2 as they probably should (Tasteless more so than Artosis) considering their jobs have an analytical component. As for the going off topic part, they've had days where they barely talked about the games they were casting. I can see how that annoys people. It's true that tastosis changed. For worse though? Not necessarily. Sure, their "hype" seems to have decreased (I didn't watch much Wol), but they're calmer and more analytical imo and you need to sacrifice the hyping noise for that. At the very least, they seem to predict builds and how player A would play pretty well, and that shows you that they are doing their research. In terms of talking off the topic, it's sth new that I appreciate very much. As I said before, it give good replay value. You simply can't expect the duo to always do great on something they're experimenting on. The main point is however, the duo is still miles ahead of Wolf/Moonglade/Valdes. Wolf is the most experienced and professional of the three, but the things that other two say just makes me cringe sometimes. You think tastosis got worse? Well, at least they know what they're talking about and have a memory span of even back in brood war days. The other three have potential, but you can't really compare them with tastosis in professional skill right now. Really? I'd say Wolf makes the most mistakes of those three and Moonglade is by far the most knowledgeable Recently, I'd say Wolf is most professional just due to the experience of talking non-stop. I mean he was bad as Valdes last year but he certainly improved (I really am sorry for keep picking Valdes, but I can't pick Moonglade), Moonglade on the other hand, is calmer and more accurate in what he says overall. But he also tends to follow what the others are doing, which makes his persona a little less noticeable. This is maybe why I chose Wolf over Moonglade so easily without thinking deeply.
moonglade is the only one of the three who is actually an ex professional player (and i believe still a GM ladder player) and he is thoroughly knowledgeable about all three races, i hardly ever notice him making bad calls at all, he's very on point. compare to wolf, who recently in proleague said that a failed hellbat attack was "game over, man" before the game proceeded to go on for like 15 minutes and end on a lategame muta switch...
edit: and i like wolf, he isn't bad and he gives a good effort, but he does have a lot of Wolf Moments and brendan has steadily improved to a point where he even corrects wolf sometimes
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