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GOM switches free quality of GSL back to low - Page 13

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REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
June 10 2015 11:31 GMT
#241
Whatever, I watch all my starcraft on spotv youtube 1080p stream anyway
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SpazeNeko
Profile Joined June 2015
Netherlands3 Posts
June 10 2015 11:32 GMT
#242
On June 10 2015 20:03 -Kyo- wrote:

I hate when people lie to try to get you to give them their money. Their investment in stream equipment and venue has already been made. What should matter next is actually creating great content so that people then decide hey, they are worth giving money to after all.



While I agree with the notion that they already bought the equipment, they do have other sources that cost money, sound/production/casters, etc. I don't agree with their step, but saying they have no other cost after buying equipment is a little short sighted imo.

On June 10 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
does anyone even know what's the price difference between broadcasting in Low quality vs broadcasting in Medium?.
i thought twitch gives quality settings on streams for free provided you get a number of X viewers.


I thought you always broadcast on source quality, the changes made for the other qualities high, medium, and low are made in the dashboard. Also the bitrate changes, and actual scaling happens on the Twitch server side of things, so saying production cost increased because of streaming on medium is just blatantly lying to your "would be customers".
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
June 10 2015 11:36 GMT
#243
On June 10 2015 20:32 SpazeNeko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 20:03 -Kyo- wrote:

I hate when people lie to try to get you to give them their money. Their investment in stream equipment and venue has already been made. What should matter next is actually creating great content so that people then decide hey, they are worth giving money to after all.



While I agree with the notion that they already bought the equipment, they do have other sources that cost money, sound/production/casters, etc. I don't agree with their step, but saying they have no other cost after buying equipment is a little short sighted imo.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
does anyone even know what's the price difference between broadcasting in Low quality vs broadcasting in Medium?.
i thought twitch gives quality settings on streams for free provided you get a number of X viewers.


I thought you always broadcast on source quality, the changes made for the other qualities high, medium, and low are made in the dashboard. Also the bitrate changes, and actual scaling happens on the Twitch server side of things, so saying production cost increased because of streaming on medium is just blatantly lying to your "would be customers".

The cost between HD and low (not even medium) is already paid for... (how else could subscribers watch HD?)
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 11:40:34
June 10 2015 11:40 GMT
#244
On June 10 2015 20:32 SpazeNeko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 20:03 -Kyo- wrote:

I hate when people lie to try to get you to give them their money. Their investment in stream equipment and venue has already been made. What should matter next is actually creating great content so that people then decide hey, they are worth giving money to after all.



While I agree with the notion that they already bought the equipment, they do have other sources that cost money, sound/production/casters, etc. I don't agree with their step, but saying they have no other cost after buying equipment is a little short sighted imo.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 20:12 xM(Z wrote:
does anyone even know what's the price difference between broadcasting in Low quality vs broadcasting in Medium?.
i thought twitch gives quality settings on streams for free provided you get a number of X viewers.


I thought you always broadcast on source quality, the changes made for the other qualities high, medium, and low are made in the dashboard. Also the bitrate changes, and actual scaling happens on the Twitch server side of things, so saying production cost increased because of streaming on medium is just blatantly lying to your "would be customers".


I would be understanding of this fact if it wasn't for the fact that none of the korean sites have a pay wall, all GSL(high wcs tournaments) are supposed to have 720p at least etc. etc.

It's just a greedy justification, and when put into perspective they are literally just to try to make money off international fans.

This alone wouldn't be a problem, because obviously companies have to make money, but to essentially make the tournament unwatchable and then say 'oh we are not profiting enough' yet allowing another source quality location for free and restricting its access makes this decision ... sort of questionable at best.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
June 10 2015 11:40 GMT
#245
On June 10 2015 19:52 BisuDagger wrote:
This is a terrible move. GSL on mobile is my only way of watching. At low quality it is completely unwatchable. I'm very disappointed.

Why is this your only way of watching?
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oOKamuOo
Profile Joined March 2015
2 Posts
June 10 2015 11:41 GMT
#246
Thanks to addblocker .... if this wouldn't exist we had a high quality stream...
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
June 10 2015 11:44 GMT
#247
On June 10 2015 15:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
lol kiss my tush you greedy frickers.

GOM has always been greedy.. or mismanaged, whichever.
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
June 10 2015 11:45 GMT
#248
Doesn't matter to me. I've subscribed for the last three years, and won't stop. A few dollars for consistent entertainment i so worth it.
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 10 2015 11:47 GMT
#249
On June 10 2015 20:41 oOKamuOo wrote:
Thanks to addblocker .... if this wouldn't exist we had a high quality stream...


pretty much, but at the same time if there werent so many sites abusing invasive ads, we wouldnt have adblocker
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fruity.
Profile Joined April 2012
England1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 11:52:49
June 10 2015 11:49 GMT
#250
edit. oops, wrong thread
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
June 10 2015 11:51 GMT
#251
Well, low quality is problematically bad. There are spikes where the quality becomes extremely pixelated for 2-4 seconds, making it impossible to tell supply counts, numbers, or anything but the most major outlines of whats going on on screen. I've been watching GSL sporadically, a bit whenever its on, for a while now; now that it's Low only I won't
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 10 2015 11:51 GMT
#252
On June 10 2015 20:41 oOKamuOo wrote:
Thanks to addblocker .... if this wouldn't exist we had a high quality stream...


having a choice is most of the times good

besides that i dont see me watching gsl much, just trying today, it feels like i am watching h.o.t forever back in 2000 with the 240p streams -_- tastosis casting isnt something that draws me in so quality of the stream is pretty important
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
June 10 2015 11:53 GMT
#253
Just wait for a few hours for Ogaming to recast it in free high quality =)
I like starcraft
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
June 10 2015 11:57 GMT
#254
I just checked the quality, reminds me of those old broodwar streams haha.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 12:01:02
June 10 2015 12:00 GMT
#255
On June 10 2015 20:40 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 19:52 BisuDagger wrote:
This is a terrible move. GSL on mobile is my only way of watching. At low quality it is completely unwatchable. I'm very disappointed.

Why is this your only way of watching?

I wake up when the second set of players play (GSL)/ second Proleague match happens (6:30 EST.) GSL runs while I'm getting ready for work so I keep my tablet by my side as I'm getting ready and then can use my wifi at work to finish watching.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
June 10 2015 12:05 GMT
#256
just opened stream. Low quality is not so bad. I can see all the texts and other
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19298 Posts
June 10 2015 12:08 GMT
#257
On June 10 2015 21:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
just opened stream. Low quality is not so bad. I can see all the texts and other

It's not end of the world. I have a couple things I can't see because low quality hurts my color blindness. I actually can't see blinding cloud in most cases.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-10 12:11:18
June 10 2015 12:10 GMT
#258
On June 10 2015 21:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
just opened stream. Low quality is not so bad. I can see all the texts and other

Maybe im just used to horrible video quality... :/

On June 10 2015 21:08 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 21:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
just opened stream. Low quality is not so bad. I can see all the texts and other

It's not end of the world. I have a couple things I can't see because low quality hurts my color blindness. I actually can't see blinding cloud in most cases.


That sucks
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
June 10 2015 12:11 GMT
#259
I dont think ive known anyone to pay because the picture quality is low... i tend to pay if the show is good..but if you make me watch this shit, i will never pay
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
June 10 2015 12:14 GMT
#260
Are they downgrading from 240p (or was it 360p?) to 144p?
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