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On May 06 2015 02:12 Endymion wrote:
complains about 'hacking' in an offline tourny, bitches constantly, thinks hes the best with nothing to back it up, announces several "final" departures from the scene, "sorry i'm stressed. later guys," lol.
nothing to back it up. lol you must be new here
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On May 06 2015 16:46 opisska wrote:
Why are people so negative towards Naniwa? He is one of the best foreigners ever to play sc2 and his only fault is that he doesn't act like a pre-programmed PR machine for an order of sc2 monks. The "worst" things he did were always when he was forced by someone else into a stupid situation (drone rush, IEM) and he is visibly trying to do better. So what the fuck is the problem with some people?
Some people want to see results, Naniwa has arguably been the best foreigner (alongside Stephano) in SC 2 until he left the scene. When he came back people expected him to return to his "old" skillelvel, all they got was a guy that quits tournaments/qualifiers left and right and loses in the tournament(s) he's playing in.
If you are a player with doubtful behaviour who wants the support of the community you've got to at least show some skills.
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On May 06 2015 17:11 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 16:46 opisska wrote:
Why are people so negative towards Naniwa? He is one of the best foreigners ever to play sc2 and his only fault is that he doesn't act like a pre-programmed PR machine for an order of sc2 monks. The "worst" things he did were always when he was forced by someone else into a stupid situation (drone rush, IEM) and he is visibly trying to do better. So what the fuck is the problem with some people? I love it when people consider that "acting like an immature kid" = "not being a pre-programmed PR machine". As for your question, well, there's this strange behavior in the community that players who either balance whine when not at the good timing (see Rain's "terran is BLinfestor"), or always find excuses for losing (see Huk), or display rage/BM behavior in tournaments (see Idra), or insult opponents in game or on twitter (see FireCake), or simply are popular (see Flash, Jaedong, Zest), or simply have a strong personality (PartinG, MC, Stephano) are way more mocked and hated on than other players. NaNiwa cumulating all of the above...
I agree with what you said except for the trivialization of Stephano's "strong personality" lol. Parting and MC are funny and act tough and fake-BM... on the other hand, Stephano's been arrested for being drunk and disruptive, thrown into holding cells, repeatedly double-booked and quit tournaments while they were still going on, tried to secretly sign onto certain teams while he was already contracted by other teams, made extremely inappropriate sexual (rape iirc) comments that he had to apologize for, etc. The reasons why I dislike him have nothing to do with the fact that he's popular or was the best foreigner for quite some time. Fantastic player, but outside of the game he acted like a jerk and was consistently in the limelight for negative drama.
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On May 06 2015 03:15 darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 02:12 Endymion wrote:
complains about 'hacking' in an offline tourny, bitches constantly, thinks hes the best with nothing to back it up, announces several "final" departures from the scene, "sorry i'm stressed. later guys," lol. I'd rather watch Naniwa's stream than noobRow in public events. Naniwa adds something to the scene unlike some overhyped players. He may be bad mannered at times, but he is a good protoss player to learn from.
Ye because Naniwa wasn't overhyped since he returned to the scene.
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Does anyone else start humming a certain David Bowie song every time they see StarNaN's name?
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On May 06 2015 18:06 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 16:46 opisska wrote:
Why are people so negative towards Naniwa? He is one of the best foreigners ever to play sc2 and his only fault is that he doesn't act like a pre-programmed PR machine for an order of sc2 monks. The "worst" things he did were always when he was forced by someone else into a stupid situation (drone rush, IEM) and he is visibly trying to do better. So what the fuck is the problem with some people? Some people want to see results, Naniwa has arguably been the best foreigner (alongside Stephano) in SC 2 until he left the scene. When he came back people expected him to return to his "old" skillelvel, all they got was a guy that quits tournaments/qualifiers left and right and loses in the tournament(s) he's playing in. If you are a player with doubtful behaviour who wants the support of the community you've got to at least show some skills.
I thought it was pretty impressive he qualified to wcs on his first try, though he skipped first qualifier. Those qualifiers are no cake walk. He no doubt beat a lot of pros which never stopped practicing (though we can't be sure if he practiced before coming back). He recently beat Zanster, Petreus, Demuslim, Nerchio, and Harstem according to Aligulac. There are plenty of top Europeans that would slap him around no doubt, but he's obviously talented.
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No wonder Dreamhack is severing ties with the SC2 scene when stuff like this happens.
They were expecting Naniwa and the thousands of eyes he draws and now they're getting some random ladder warrior who literally nobody has ever heard of and who will most likely fail in his first round. Fantastic deal.
Calling it now, the only 'story line' casters are going to repeat over and over about him is that he's the guy who replaced Naniwa.
On a positive note: at least that's good exposure for the replacement guy. Congrats.
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On May 06 2015 22:46 SixStrings wrote:
No wonder Dreamhack is severing ties with the SC2 scene when stuff like this happens.
They were expecting Naniwa and the thousands of eyes he draws and now they're getting some random ladder warrior who literally nobody has ever heard of and who will most likely fail in his first round. Fantastic deal.
Calling it now, the only 'story line' casters are going to repeat over and over about him is that he's the guy who replaced Naniwa.
On a positive note: at least that's good exposure for the replacement guy. Congrats.
Considering the lineup of players attending Dreamhack France, if the replacement of Naniwa is the only thing that draws attention and discussions, that is a bit sad.
I like Naniwa, but I am more disappointed by the forfeit of Showtime. Personnaly I care about foreigners beating koreans, not about old fan favorites.
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On May 07 2015 00:43 Ppjack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 22:46 SixStrings wrote:
No wonder Dreamhack is severing ties with the SC2 scene when stuff like this happens.
They were expecting Naniwa and the thousands of eyes he draws and now they're getting some random ladder warrior who literally nobody has ever heard of and who will most likely fail in his first round. Fantastic deal.
Calling it now, the only 'story line' casters are going to repeat over and over about him is that he's the guy who replaced Naniwa.
On a positive note: at least that's good exposure for the replacement guy. Congrats. Considering the lineup of players attending Dreamhack France, if the replacement of Naniwa is the only thing that draws attention and discussions, that is a bit sad. I like Naniwa, but I am more disappointed by the forfeit of Showtime. Personnaly I care about foreigners beating koreans, not about old fan favorites.
Naniwa ? ShowTime ? No one is disapointed in JD's forfeit. I'm sad 
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On May 07 2015 00:44 FFW_Rude wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 00:43 Ppjack wrote:On May 06 2015 22:46 SixStrings wrote:
No wonder Dreamhack is severing ties with the SC2 scene when stuff like this happens.
They were expecting Naniwa and the thousands of eyes he draws and now they're getting some random ladder warrior who literally nobody has ever heard of and who will most likely fail in his first round. Fantastic deal.
Calling it now, the only 'story line' casters are going to repeat over and over about him is that he's the guy who replaced Naniwa.
On a positive note: at least that's good exposure for the replacement guy. Congrats. Considering the lineup of players attending Dreamhack France, if the replacement of Naniwa is the only thing that draws attention and discussions, that is a bit sad. I like Naniwa, but I am more disappointed by the forfeit of Showtime. Personnaly I care about foreigners beating koreans, not about old fan favorites. Naniwa ? ShowTime ? No one is disapointed in JD's forfeit. I'm sad
Among the foreigners 
Polt, jaedong and violet not coming of course breaks my heart !
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On May 06 2015 06:46 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 05:43 SharkStarcraft wrote:On May 06 2015 02:36 Ej_ wrote:On May 06 2015 00:31 SharkStarcraft wrote:sad times, but nani probably wants to become really good again before travelling to events best of luck nani! hope you really do stream more often  <3 totally, needs 2 weeks to prepare for taking the title of the best foreigner grudge son? do you really want another hatchery in your natural?
how could you know :O
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