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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:09 YuiHirasawa wrote: That's funny I remember games from MMA, MC, Mvp, Life, Parting, Innovation; games that made me think I LOVE STARCRAFT. Yet I don't remember ONE game from Taeja that made me react that way. You know there is an entire list of his greatest games in the article? | ||
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Muffloe
Sweden6061 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:09 YuiHirasawa wrote: That's funny I remember games from MMA, MC, Mvp, Life, Parting, Innovation; games that made me think I LOVE STARCRAFT. Yet I don't remember ONE game from Taeja that made me react that way. I don't agree with Taeja's placement either(Taeja over MC? someones been trippin'), but Taeja vs Innovation is still the greatest sc2 match of all time | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 26 2015 22:10 Mallidon wrote: Not sure how Taeja beat MC here... Looking at some of the criteria though I'd debate some of the Tier ratings really. IEM 2012 World Championship is Tier 3, really? Based on what? The players at it were arguably a lot better than most MLG's or NASL and the prize pool a lot higher than many of your Tier 2 (MLG Championships etc) and almost comparable with T1. I simply put, just do not agree with the tier ratings here. Prize Pool did not factor in. Here are the relevant players that went here: Top 10 Z Violet Top 10 T Puma Top 10 T Supernova Top 5 T MMA Top 5 P MC Maybe Top 10 P in JYP and Killer Now let me show you a tier 1 MLG (MLG Provdence): DRG - Top 3 Z Top 5 T - MMA Top 5 T - Bomber Top 5 T - Puma (The difference was he was in his prime here while at IEM he fell off) Top 10 T - Rain Top 5 P - Naniwa Top 5 P - Huk Top 5 P - HerO Top 5 P - Oz Top 10 P - Puzzle Top 1 T - Mvp Top 10 T - Ganzi Top 5 T - MKP Top 10 T - sC Top 10 T - Keen Top 5 Z - Losira Top 10 Z - idra Top 3 Z - Leenock Top 3 Z - Nestea Top 10 Z - Violet And Haypro played the tournament of his life. If you can convince me that IEM was on the same level as one of the tier 1 tournaments I listed, please go ahead. | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3753 Posts
On April 26 2015 22:10 Mallidon wrote: Not sure how Taeja beat MC here... Looking at some of the criteria though I'd debate some of the Tier ratings really. IEM 2012 World Championship is Tier 3, really? Based on what? The players at it were arguably a lot better than most MLG's or NASL and the prize pool a lot higher than many of your Tier 2 (MLG Championships etc) and almost comparable with T1. I simply put, just do not agree with the tier ratings here. No, 2012 wasn't really stacked by any maesure. Their most prestigious players were MC and MMA. But beside that - PuMa was already declining, viOLet was best of the rest - and the rest was definitely not championship caliber. NASL3 is also tier 3. NASL1 players were - at the time - fairly strong. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Trap - Top 5 P (Played at that level) Polt - Top 5 T Stardust - Top 10 P HerO - Top 10 P Alicia - ? Hard to rate, but he rates somewhere between Top 15- top 10, Bomber - Top 5 T Heart - Top 10 T Hyun - Top 5 Z Jaedong - Top 10 Z DRG - Top 5 Z Life - Top 5 Z Leenock - Top 10 Z And this is without listing the increased depth of middle tier players. So if you can convince me that IEM WC was better than this, than please do. | ||
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Haighstrom
United Kingdom207 Posts
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TheRavensName
United States911 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
That's got to count for something | ||
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Promised_pain
Finland61 Posts
On April 26 2015 19:42 Thrillz wrote: Peak Bogus is still till this day the scariest period imo Peak Hellbat dropper, lol. | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
On April 27 2015 00:23 lichter wrote: i should start writing in people's mod notes when it's obvious they don't read articles and just comment anyway after the pleasure of reading stutchiu it would be those articles second achievement  | ||
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necate
12 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:09 YuiHirasawa wrote: That's funny I remember games from MMA, MC, Mvp, Life, Parting, Innovation; games that made me think I LOVE STARCRAFT. Yet I don't remember ONE game from Taeja that made me react that way. Taeja VS Innovation WCS Seasonal Finals 2013 Set 3 Arguably the best TvT of SC2 History On April 27 2015 00:03 Haighstrom wrote: Well I was enjoying this series until Taeja was ranked #3, and the credibility of the whole thing fell to pieces as badly as Taeja did when he had to play in Korea again. Taeja has shown that he can do well in GSL bevore the Start of WCS with two semifinals and other decent finishes. Just because he never won one before he left for WCS America does not mean that he never did well. Its stupid to critisise his rank in an all time list, based on a few games he played in 2015. Especially considering that he did not go to any other torunaments and might even be in semi retirement. MVP also dropped out of GSL and failed to qualify for multiple seasons after his time as a top player. That does not demish his other achievments. The same is true for Taejas recent results | ||
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Kevn23
United States80 Posts
But Soo or Jaedong with so many 2nd place finishes; I'd thought at least one of them would be in the top 15. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:09 YuiHirasawa wrote: That's funny I remember games from MMA, MC, Mvp, Life, Parting, Innovation; games that made me think I LOVE STARCRAFT. Yet I don't remember ONE game from Taeja that made me react that way. Then my friend I don't think you have watched Taeja play. Taeja vs Inno WCS Season 2 global finals 2013, Taeja vs Zest game 3 IEM Toronto, Taeja vs Life (many times) Taeja vs soO, Taeja vs Rain were all amazing and are listed for your pleasure in the OP That doesn't even include some fantastic games from IPL TAC 3 like Taeja vs MKP or Taeja vs Bomber On April 27 2015 01:05 Kevn23 wrote: No Flash?? what.. But Soo or Jaedong with so many 2nd place finishes; I'd thought at least one of them would be in the top 15. soO was #12 | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On April 26 2015 21:09 YuiHirasawa wrote: That's funny I remember games from MMA, MC, Mvp, Life, Parting, Innovation; games that made me think I LOVE STARCRAFT. Yet I don't remember ONE game from Taeja that made me react that way. Didn't he play that base trade vs. Protoss where the Protoss had the poor idea of taking his new base at the natural of Foxtrot Labs and got completely destroyed? 'Cause that was a great game. | ||
The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On April 27 2015 01:15 Fanatic-Templar wrote: Didn't he play that base trade vs. Protoss where the Protoss had the poor idea of taking his new base at the natural of Foxtrot Labs and got completely destroyed? 'Cause that was a great game. Yep, against Zest in IEM Toronto, game 3. TaeJa played that incredibly well. | ||
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Psychotikah
Canada101 Posts
Now for the obligatory personal opinion, Leenock (or sOs at 16th for that matter) over Parting seems off... I can't fathom how Parting isn't part of a top 15 sc2 players. But I obviously didn't put as much though and effort in this as you did. (Polt is pretty high too imo) I think Taeja deserves that #3 though. At his peak (and it was a hell of a long one) he was god like in those week end tournies. It takes a special set of skills (and cool) to always destroy the opposition time after time. Kudos! | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
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NKexquisite
United States911 Posts
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