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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 12 2015 13:54 GMT
#401
How far SC2 has fallen that a match fixer is publicly accepted.
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
April 12 2015 13:55 GMT
#402
On April 12 2015 22:54 Doodsmack wrote:
How far SC2 has fallen that a match fixer is publicly accepted.



since the other thread is closed is there anyplace where the discussion continues?

its getting embarrassing
dark1882
Profile Joined October 2012
Ireland529 Posts
April 12 2015 13:56 GMT
#403
i'd say zest bomber and sos are the three who aren't on it
forge fast expand or die trying~Naniwa
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 12 2015 13:58 GMT
#404
On April 12 2015 22:54 Doodsmack wrote:
How far SC2 has fallen that a match fixer is publicly accepted.


You discount SaviOr from the list of Brood War's greatest players?

On April 12 2015 22:55 Disarmed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 22:54 Doodsmack wrote:
How far SC2 has fallen that a match fixer is publicly accepted.



since the other thread is closed is there anyplace where the discussion continues?

its getting embarrassing


No
AdministratorBreak the chains
Disarmed
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria721 Posts
April 12 2015 14:00 GMT
#405
its not getting embarrassing?
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
April 12 2015 14:03 GMT
#406
On April 12 2015 11:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
top 10 foreigner list

1. Stephano
2. HuK
3. Naniwa
4. Scarlett
5. Snute
6. Thorzain
7. Suppjwa
8. MaNa
9. Lucifron
10. TLO

no jinro or idra trash lsit confirmed.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 12 2015 14:05 GMT
#407
On April 12 2015 23:00 Disarmed wrote:
its not getting embarrassing?


The "discussion" was embarrassing, which is why it was closed. Everything that could be said has been said, and if new information comes to light that might warrant a thread. Until then, there is nothing to be gained by having a thread dedicated to a massive circular argument on TL.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
April 12 2015 14:07 GMT
#408
1. MVP
2. MC
3. Life
4. Taeja
5. Nestea
6. Zest
7. Polt
8. Innovation
9. MMA
10. sOs
Yhamm is the god of predictions
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
April 12 2015 14:13 GMT
#409
I might have put MarineKing in the top 10 by virtue of the fact that SC2 has seemed so thoroughly inconsistent and yet MarineKing managed to achieve results for so long. But since players like DRG and soO have been placed already I guess #11 could end up being reasonable. Interested to see what the rest of the list will look like.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 12 2015 14:13 GMT
#410
surely herO will be on this list somewhere
rip passion
coloursheep
Profile Joined May 2011
China496 Posts
April 12 2015 14:16 GMT
#411
On April 12 2015 23:07 Scarecrow wrote:
1. MVP
2. MC
3. Life
4. Taeja
5. Nestea
6. Zest
7. Polt
8. Innovation
9. MMA
10. sOs


I think you might be the first person to get the top 3 in the correct order
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 14:32 GMT
#412
On April 12 2015 22:35 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 21:44 Antaa wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:30 KalWarkov wrote:
i have a problem. i have 12 players left for 10 spots :O

Zest
Nestea
Innovation
sOs
Bomber
Taeja
Polt
Parting
MMA
MC
Life
MVP


Hint: three of those aren't in the Top 10

Is this hint confirmed? It changes everything.


I've read the full article a few times

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 22:05 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 12 2015 21:58 The_Templar wrote:
On April 12 2015 21:44 Antaa wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:31 Zealously wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:30 KalWarkov wrote:
i have a problem. i have 12 players left for 10 spots :O

Zest
Nestea
Innovation
sOs
Bomber
Taeja
Polt
Parting
MMA
MC
Life
MVP


Hint: three of those aren't in the Top 10

Is this hint confirmed? It changes everything.

Yes, it is.

...so temp who do you think is on the list


Off-limits, he's read the article!

Cheater
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 14:34:34
April 12 2015 14:32 GMT
#413
the player’s level relative to the time must be considered with several caveats


So this is a "greatest of all time" list, but you're judging the players within their respective time period. How does that work? That means they aren't the "greatest of all time". Mvp maybe greatest in 2011. 2012-2013 he's not that relevant and onward he's irrelevant. Top players right now (like Life) are at the highest level of SC2 we have ever seen and they are at a level way above people like Nestea, Mvp, MKP, and leenock ever were.

We must consider the innovation and creativity they used to make strategies as well as the refinement of pre-existing strategies, the meta in which they played and the outside factors they had to face during their reigns.


A lot of players contribute to innovating the meta. Give destiny a GOAT award or an acknowledgement for innovating with mass infestors?
rip passion
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 14:33 GMT
#414
On April 12 2015 23:03 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 11:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
top 10 foreigner list

1. Stephano
2. HuK
3. Naniwa
4. Scarlett
5. Snute
6. Thorzain
7. Suppjwa
8. MaNa
9. Lucifron
10. TLO

no jinro or idra trash lsit confirmed.

Fuck i knew i forgot someone
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 14:35 GMT
#415
On April 12 2015 23:16 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 23:07 Scarecrow wrote:
1. MVP
2. MC
3. Life
4. Taeja
5. Nestea
6. Zest
7. Polt
8. Innovation
9. MMA
10. sOs


I think you might be the first person to get the top 3 in the correct order

Lol no Life love too strong right now for MC to be second, and quite frankly i dont know if i can disagree
Kaina + Drones Linkcro Summon Cupsie Yummy Way
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 14:40:44
April 12 2015 14:37 GMT
#416
I am always surprised at people placing MC at so high up, sure he is one of the best players but his styles are mostly lacking and purely 2 base all in.
unlike parting who has refined his play so well that he can play macro just as well as his close to perfectly executed soul train.

On April 12 2015 23:32 Deathstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
the player’s level relative to the time must be considered with several caveats


So this is a "greatest of all time" list, but you're judging the players within their respective time period. How does that work? That means they aren't the "greatest of all time". Mvp maybe greatest in 2011. 2012-2013 he's not that relevant and onward he's irrelevant. Top players right now (like Life) are at the highest level of SC2 we have ever seen and they are at a level way above people like Nestea, Mvp, MKP, and leenock ever were.

Show nested quote +
We must consider the innovation and creativity they used to make strategies as well as the refinement of pre-existing strategies, the meta in which they played and the outside factors they had to face during their reigns.


A lot of players contribute to innovating the meta. Give destiny a GOAT award or an acknowledgement for innovating with mass infestors?


i am pretty sure destiny isn't the first to go mass infestors, I think it was spanishiwa who also invented the gasless queen heavy style which was ahead of its time, and it took a few months until koreans also took it up.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
April 12 2015 14:43 GMT
#417
Has fruitdealer been mentioned once in all these pages?
1. Fruitdealer
2. Moustache taeja
3. Pirate taeja
4-10. Taeja
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
April 12 2015 14:49 GMT
#418
On April 12 2015 23:16 coloursheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 23:07 Scarecrow wrote:
1. MVP
2. MC
3. Life
4. Taeja
5. Nestea
6. Zest
7. Polt
8. Innovation
9. MMA
10. sOs


I think you might be the first person to get the top 3 in the correct order

i had them in that order on like page 5.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 14:51:37
April 12 2015 14:50 GMT
#419
On April 12 2015 23:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Has fruitdealer been mentioned once in all these pages?
1. Fruitdealer
2. Moustache taeja
3. Pirate taeja
4-10. Taeja

what about LiquidSucksBallsWithoutMe?
Antaa
Profile Joined April 2015
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 15:04:40
April 12 2015 15:01 GMT
#420
OK this is gonna be tough.

MVP, Life, LiquidTaeja, MC, MMA - probably the top 5

Polt, Innovation, Zest, Parting, Nestea, Bomber - 5 of 6 complete the top 10

Now with the hints:
Zest (in the picture) - is in.
Polt, Innovation, Parting, Nestea, Bomber - 3 of 5 complete the top 16

So:
A. two of: Polt, Innovation, Parting, Nestea, Bomber - aren't in the TOP 16.
B. one of Rain, Soulkey, Stephano, herO, LiquidHero, etc, is on the top 10.

B - my guess based on "feeling" is LiquidHero.
A is tougher. Without doing the research and not understanding completely the criteria used, any choice just feels wrong.
So my final guess:

6 to 10: Nestea, Polt, Parting, Zest, LiquidHero.

(BOMBER NOOOOOOOOO.... Bogus... sniff... maybe no Nestea top 16?, Parting? Polt???? AAAAAAAAAAAAAA)
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