Revised Featured Stream Requirements for 2015 - Page 2

On March 16 2015 16:13 BreAKerTV wrote:
There are jerks who will do anything to make someone look like they are crazy. A lot of them just have money to throw away to troll someone.

In my case, someone shelled out enough money to buy me like 60,000 fake twitter followers. Within a week twitter support took care of like 8,000. Then over the next three months, twitter took care of the rest of them when I emailed their support team.

On topic of the OP now, does this mean that I have what it takes to be feautured as a teamliquid streamer?

On March 16 2015 16:17 KadaverBB wrote:


Do you meet any of the requirements?

On March 16 2015 16:17 InDLegacy wrote:
Oh please. Let me point out what this is really all about. This is about TL trying to avoid any of this drama. There are trolls all over Twitch and Reddit looking to create drama anywhere and everywhere Winter is advertised, and TL doesn't want any of it. If you honestly expect any rational person to accept that you can't gauge if Winter meets your 100-150 viewer requirement, viewbots or not, then you are trying too hard to come up with excuses. You can already look up stats on his subs, being way over that amount (Over 600).

Avilo has had an obsessive attitude towards Winter for a long time now. The kind that borders stalking. This is why any mention of his name warrants a time out in Winter's chat. I looked through that reddit post. I saw the proof. I agree that there has undoubtedly been viewbots on Winter's channel. Yet some of those "suspicious" accounts Avilo cites follow typical stupid naming schemes people have been using for decades now. Really? We're to suspect xxCloudUchihaxxk because his name is dumb and he is only following Winter?

There is only one party that can determine if Winter is at fault here. That is Twitch. All Twitch has done thus far is work with Winter to take measures to stop his channel from getting viewbot traffic. They have in the past banned streamers for viewboting. Yet here they haven't. I'm sorry but you can't just point out "Twitch is doing nothing about it" like they are simply choosing not to.

For anyone else, the burden of proof is on the accuser. The evidence Avilo presented is not good enough to determine if Winter backed those bots.

All being said. Winter HAS helped the Sc2 community. His viewership is the only way SC2 hits the top streamed games list when there are no professional games being streamed. For TL to take a stance like this so publicly, I can only find it disrespectful.

On March 16 2015 16:17 InDLegacy wrote:
Oh please. Let me point out what this is really all about. This is about TL trying to avoid any of this drama. There are trolls all over Twitch and Reddit looking to create drama anywhere and everywhere Winter is advertised, and TL doesn't want any of it. If you honestly expect any rational person to accept that you can't gauge if Winter meets your 100-150 viewer requirement, viewbots or not, then you are trying too hard to come up with excuses. You can already look up stats on his subs, being way over that amount (Over 600).

Avilo has had an obsessive attitude towards Winter for a long time now. The kind that borders stalking. This is why any mention of his name warrants a time out in Winter's chat. I looked through that reddit post. I saw the proof. I agree that there has undoubtedly been viewbots on Winter's channel. Yet some of those "suspicious" accounts Avilo cites follow typical stupid naming schemes people have been using for decades now. Really? We're to suspect xxCloudUchihaxxk because his name is dumb and he is only following Winter?

There is only one party that can determine if Winter is at fault here. That is Twitch. All Twitch has done thus far is work with Winter to take measures to stop his channel from getting viewbot traffic. They have in the past banned streamers for viewboting. Yet here they haven't. I'm sorry but you can't just point out "Twitch is doing nothing about it" like they are simply choosing not to.

For anyone else, the burden of proof is on the accuser. The evidence Avilo presented is not good enough to determine if Winter backed those bots.

All being said. Winter HAS helped the Sc2 community. His viewership is the only way SC2 hits the top streamed games list when there are no professional games being streamed. For TL to take a stance like this so publicly, I can only find it disrespectful.

On March 16 2015 16:24 Taidanii wrote:


The fact that you made an account on this site just to post in this thread indicates that you're biased to defending winter's ethics in this matter.

The community has collectively decided that the support of an individual that excels using illegitimate means is unwarranted. We apologize if this causes any inconvenience for you, or your friend winter

On March 16 2015 16:27 InDLegacy wrote:


Yeah so easy to checklist all the reasons to discredit someone's viewpoint. Rather than respond to the actual content of their reply. What a plebeian way of responding to someone.

On March 16 2015 16:00 TJ31 wrote:

Well, twitch banned Eggy for view botting after the same guy from reddit posted evidence (link: http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/2oxs0l/eggysc2_uses_viewbots_and_chatbots_heres_the/ ). Hopefully they'll ban Winter too, 'cause it's so obvious.
But yeah, I'm impressed by TL this time.