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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 31 2015 17:35 GMT
#41
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru
dracularulez
Profile Joined October 2012
Egypt9 Posts
January 31 2015 17:36 GMT
#42
taeja was the best terran? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA why am i not surprised that u picked him just like last year?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 17:38:47
January 31 2015 17:37 GMT
#43
On February 01 2015 02:22 Jer99 wrote:
TaeJa haters out in full force today

No it is just ridiculous to say taeja is the best terran, simple as that...
Really disappointed in that category tbh, it's kinda a running joke at this point


edit: to not be totally negative, the rest of the article is very good though! GJ
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
January 31 2015 17:39 GMT
#44
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Wow, I'm sure he had such a hard time beating Americans
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 31 2015 17:39 GMT
#45
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Might have something to do with the fact Maru didn't leave Korea
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 31 2015 17:39 GMT
#46
Blizzcon winner nowhere near runner up zerg?
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 31 2015 17:41 GMT
#47
On February 01 2015 02:39 Skynx wrote:
Blizzcon winner nowhere near runner up zerg?

Yeah, Life and Solar could have at least been mentioned there
ilovegroov
Profile Joined January 2015
357 Posts
January 31 2015 17:41 GMT
#48
Dat Liquid bias. But its tradition by now...
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 17:45:59
January 31 2015 17:41 GMT
#49
While some questionable winner choices are explained by predictable TL bias, the Best Ceremony winner is a complete mystery to me. Inexplicable.

Nonetheless most sections were very well written, good job.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 31 2015 17:41 GMT
#50
I liked what I read
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
January 31 2015 17:43 GMT
#51
On February 01 2015 02:24 tjtombo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:19 Yonnua wrote:
Every year Taeja beats a bunch of lower tier players at random tournaments then edges it over the one or two top tier players that turn up and teamliquid writers (and many other people) just start going mental and calling him the best player ever. Then when he gets smashed by top tier players at other events they completely ignore it and act as if it never happened. It's crazy.

Players like Maru, Innovation and Bomber have performed on much bigger stages and with greater consistency against the top tier players, but don't get anywhere near as much credit. :/

Yeah like when he edged out Zest 3-0, or edged out soO 3-1, or edged out innovation 3-1. Or maybe you are refering to him getting "smashed" by losing 3-2 to Life twice recently (and lets be real, almost everyone is losing to life right now especially in ZvT) in two of the best series of the year. I know what you mean when you say people overlook his losses, but the way you phrase it passes off his multiple tournament wins as "Taeja beats a bunch of lower tier players at random tournaments then edges it over the one or two top tier players that turn up". Aren't you doing the same thing you claim TL writers are doing? Your view comes off just as biased


How is this not exactly what I said? He beats one or two top tier players per event. He barely edges it over people to win events i.e. 4-3 vs Solar & losing to Jim at Shenzhen, 3-2 vs Jaedong & losing to Scarlett/MMA at Homestory Cup, not facing any top tier players at Dreamhack Summer, etc. Then at other tournaments he drops games to Leenock (Dreamhack Winter/Taiwan Open), Flash (3-0 at Homestory Cup), Hyun (WCS), Pigbaby (two different WCS events), Dear/Stardust (ASUS ROG), Major/Hyun (WCS).

I'm not claiming he's a bad playing, but saying that he's obviously the best terran of 2014 is crazy while completely ignoring that he lost to random players in loads of the events he played in (even one or two that he won). Acting like he was always undefeatable when he won is ridiculous.

Claiming I'm doing the same as the writers is silly because I'm not ignoring data, I'm just using all of the data rather than selecting the little amount that proves that the player I like is the best. I'm also not saying anyone is or isn't the best, I'm saying that calling it so clear cut when other players have had much better performances throughout the year is silly and not backed by data.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 31 2015 17:45 GMT
#52
On February 01 2015 02:39 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Wow, I'm sure he had such a hard time beating Americans


TIL Trap and Cure are Americans
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 31 2015 17:46 GMT
#53
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Maru won Leifeng Cups which are tournaments. Gumiho for GOAT player
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 31 2015 17:48 GMT
#54
On February 01 2015 02:45 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Wow, I'm sure he had such a hard time beating Americans


TIL Trap and Cure are Americans

This one was still "only" a 8 players Premier. 3 series and you're in final. Reaching Code S RO4 is already 5-7 series.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
January 31 2015 17:48 GMT
#55
I think IEM Katowice was best EU tournament.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
January 31 2015 17:49 GMT
#56
Yay for Jim.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 31 2015 17:51 GMT
#57
On February 01 2015 02:28 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:26 Big J wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:13 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:04 Big J wrote:
Hm, shouldn't a "breakout player" be someone who actually had a breakout, not one of the best Korean Protoss that in 2014 grew even stronger. (goes for the runner up as well)
E.g. Pigbaby or Sacsri

Also naming Has as entertaining while there are players out there that people actually tune in for is mildly concerning.


Zest's individual achievements prior to 2014:
Group stage exit from IEM NY

Solar's individual achievements prior to 2014:
Qualified for challenger / Code A twice

maybe I'm wrong about Solar and he actually only went on to be strong in Proleague 2014, but Zest was longtime the best Proleague player 2012-13 with the highest winrate (70% and higher for some time) and an amazing amount of wins despite never being allowed to play ace.


Zest ended the 12-13 season with a score that was roughly 30-18 if I recall correctly. Seventh or eighth place. He was definitely good back then, but it's hard to argue that 2014 wasn't his breakout year.
Edit: 29-17, 7th player overall.


Well, my point is more towards the definition of "breakout". I usually connect that somewhat with "rookie" performances, especially since there was no rookie award but there were "best player" awards anyways.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 31 2015 17:53 GMT
#58
On February 01 2015 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:45 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Wow, I'm sure he had such a hard time beating Americans


TIL Trap and Cure are Americans

This one was still "only" a 8 players Premier. 3 series and you're in final. Reaching Code S RO4 is already 5-7 series.


That's not the only tournament he won
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 31 2015 17:57 GMT
#59
On February 01 2015 02:53 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2015 02:48 TheDwf wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:45 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:39 Lorning wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:35 Dodgin wrote:
On February 01 2015 02:33 TheDwf wrote:
TaeJa instead of Bogus for the title of best Korean Terran? Muahahaha
Between those two, someone actually won a Code S. And it was not TaeJa.
And why Bomber among the runners-up instead of Maru??


One of them actually won tournaments in 2014, and it was not Maru

Wow, I'm sure he had such a hard time beating Americans


TIL Trap and Cure are Americans

This one was still "only" a 8 players Premier. 3 series and you're in final. Reaching Code S RO4 is already 5-7 series.


That's not the only tournament he won

I know, but the other was WCS America with 4 series against Koreans (so quite similar to the Redbull actually, 3 series into TvT finals) and that one was just... lol
iViNtaGe
Profile Joined July 2012
United States254 Posts
January 31 2015 17:57 GMT
#60
BOMBER!!!!!!!!
Favorite Players: Bomber | Maru | Life | PartinG | InnoVation | Bbyong
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