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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
January 27 2015 22:40 GMT
#41
Woot, Morrow went back to Zerg now? O_O
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Teapea
Profile Joined August 2014
7 Posts
January 27 2015 22:41 GMT
#42
On January 28 2015 07:36 Thax wrote:
Why can't Kane travel to Europe?


He said something like you he can only be 90 days in EU every 180 days.. And he was in EU for 90 days just, and left in December. So he can't enter EU.
SaltySam
Profile Joined January 2013
65 Posts
January 27 2015 22:42 GMT
#43
On January 28 2015 07:25 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 07:23 AWalker9 wrote:

Already making excuses
That's not making excuses...that's called complaining.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
January 27 2015 22:45 GMT
#44
woooooooow such a turnaround for happy haha! gogo dmitry
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Sharkken
Profile Joined October 2012
Jordan141 Posts
January 27 2015 22:45 GMT
#45
Lol Naniwa gets another rigged group :p
Liquid HerO Best Toss in the World
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 22:47:34
January 27 2015 22:46 GMT
#46
My predictions:

Kane, TargA, PiG, Happy - This group was very easy in terms of who will get out of the group. I chose Kane because he is just better than the other three. The 2nd person who will make it out of this group is a little more difficult to pick. I chose PiG because I feel that he is a very great Terran. How many players can proudly say that they defeated NesTea, a three time GSL winner and the most accomplished Zerg in SC2 to date? Not many people can make that claim. I normally would pick Happy, but he is a known cheater ever since the whole stream cheating on the Russian stream thing. I used to give Happy the benefit of the doubt for not being able to reproduce his online results offline.

viOLet, Bunny, MajOr, MaNa - viOLet is Korean playing against some Europeans and North Americans. Enough said. I didn't pick MajOr because he most likely will not even show up. Otherwise, I would pick him since he has winning records against top Koreans such as Polt. It was hard to pick either MaNa or Bunny, so I went with Bunny. Bunny's form has been better than MaNa's, despite his inability to beat easy opponents. Actually, with Bunny's form these days, he might actually win a PREMIER tournament.

Polt, TLO, Kelazhur, Jim - Polt is clearly superior to the other three players in this group. The person who might make it in 2nd place can either be TLO or Jim. TLO is well known by the SC2 community for being inconsistent so I will go with Jim. He is consistent enough and has some weird Chinese builds to back him up.

puCK, ForGG, Firecake, Sen - First place will obviously be fOrGG. The man beat Life, the WCS Finals 2014 champion, fresh off of his win. fOrGG is the best player out of any of these players right now. The next player to leave this group will be Sen. Sen is just looking too solid these days to lose to Firecake or... puCK.

Astrea, Snute, uThermal, XiGua - This group is just too easy to predict. Snute and XiGua, in that order. Snute is a tournament winner and XiGua is a WCG runner up. These players' achievements simply can't be ignored. BUT I can kind of see an Astrea beating Snute AND XiGua since he, after all, managed to beat Scarlett, the best foreign Zerg in the world if it was not for her wrists.

Hydra, ShoWTimE, MorroW, iAsonu - Hydra because he is Korean. Morrow is an IEM champion, and defeating Idra at that. Morrow will definitely make it out of this group. His play is too solid compared to the other foreigners.

Suppy, NaNiwa, Serral, Has - NaNiwa is the best foreigner in the world right now. There is nobody else, besides Stephano, who can suddenly come out of retirement and make it to premier without practice. Naniwa truly has the SC2 gift that all other players want. Although I think fOrGG will win this WCS, I think that NaNiwa will take second place losing 3-4 by some weird SCV pull from fOrGG. Second will probably be Has. Chinese players are almost as good as Koreans therefore being better than other foreigners.

HuK, Welmu, Iaguz, MacSed - Despite what people say about HuK being a washed up has been, he is still a top 5 foreigner. That is why he will make it out. 1,2 for Welmu, 3,4 for Iaguz, 5,6 for MacSed. I rolled a 2 on my dice. Welmu it is.




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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5653 Posts
January 27 2015 22:48 GMT
#47
Very nice!

Naniwa vs. Serral though... :o
don't wall off against random
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 27 2015 22:50 GMT
#48
was this drawing done on live stream, and professionally this time? (no troll picture on the back of Naniwa's card for example)

it was live stream so there is no chance of being rigged right?
Taari
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany138 Posts
January 27 2015 22:50 GMT
#49
My new predictions after the redraw:
#yearofastrea

Group 1: (Z)Kane, (T)Happy, (Z)PiG, (Z)TargA
Group 2: (T)MajOr, (T)Bunny, (P)MaNa, (Z)viOLet
Group 3: (Z)TLO, (T)Polt, (P)Jim, (T)Kelazhur
Group 4: (T)ForGG, (Z)Sen, (P)puCK, (Z)FireCake
Group 5: (Z)Snute, (P)Astrea, (Z)XiGua, (T)uThermal
Group 6: (Z)Hydra, (Z)iAsonu, (P)ShoWTimE, (T)MorroW
Group 7: (P)NaNiwa, (Z)Serral, (P)Has, (Z)Suppy
Group 8: (P)Welmu, (P)HuK, (P)MacSed, (T)iaguz
Happy, herO, Neeb, Zest, uThermal, Welmu, Creator, VortiX, ShoWTimE
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 27 2015 22:54 GMT
#50
On January 28 2015 07:46 swag_bro wrote:
My predictions:

+ Show Spoiler +
Kane, TargA, PiG, Happy - This group was very easy in terms of who will get out of the group. I chose Kane because he is just better than the other three. The 2nd person who will make it out of this group is a little more difficult to pick. I chose PiG because I feel that he is a very great Terran. How many players can proudly say that they defeated NesTea, a three time GSL winner and the most accomplished Zerg in SC2 to date? Not many people can make that claim. I normally would pick Happy, but he is a known cheater ever since the whole stream cheating on the Russian stream thing. I used to give Happy the benefit of the doubt for not being able to reproduce his online results offline.

viOLet, Bunny, MajOr, MaNa - viOLet is Korean playing against some Europeans and North Americans. Enough said. I didn't pick MajOr because he most likely will not even show up. Otherwise, I would pick him since he has winning records against top Koreans such as Polt. It was hard to pick either MaNa or Bunny, so I went with Bunny. Bunny's form has been better than MaNa's, despite his inability to beat easy opponents. Actually, with Bunny's form these days, he might actually win a PREMIER tournament.

Polt, TLO, Kelazhur, Jim - Polt is clearly superior to the other three players in this group. The person who might make it in 2nd place can either be TLO or Jim. TLO is well known by the SC2 community for being inconsistent so I will go with Jim. He is consistent enough and has some weird Chinese builds to back him up.

puCK, ForGG, Firecake, Sen - First place will obviously be fOrGG. The man beat Life, the WCS Finals 2014 champion, fresh off of his win. fOrGG is the best player out of any of these players right now. The next player to leave this group will be Sen. Sen is just looking too solid these days to lose to Firecake or... puCK.

Astrea, Snute, uThermal, XiGua - This group is just too easy to predict. Snute and XiGua, in that order. Snute is a tournament winner and XiGua is a WCG runner up. These players' achievements simply can't be ignored. BUT I can kind of see an Astrea beating Snute AND XiGua since he, after all, managed to beat Scarlett, the best foreign Zerg in the world if it was not for her wrists.

Hydra, ShoWTimE, MorroW, iAsonu - Hydra because he is Korean. Morrow is an IEM champion, and defeating Idra at that. Morrow will definitely make it out of this group. His play is too solid compared to the other foreigners.

Suppy, NaNiwa, Serral, Has - NaNiwa is the best foreigner in the world right now. There is nobody else, besides Stephano, who can suddenly come out of retirement and make it to premier without practice. Naniwa truly has the SC2 gift that all other players want. Although I think fOrGG will win this WCS, I think that NaNiwa will take second place losing 3-4 by some weird SCV pull from fOrGG. Second will probably be Has. Chinese players are almost as good as Koreans therefore being better than other foreigners.

HuK, Welmu, Iaguz, MacSed - Despite what people say about HuK being a washed up has been, he is still a top 5 foreigner. That is why he will make it out. 1,2 for Welmu, 3,4 for Iaguz, 5,6 for MacSed. I rolled a 2 on my dice. Welmu it is.



There's so many layers of bait in there it's beautiful. "NaNiwa is the best foreigner in the world right now" is my favorite one. God bless you swag_bro.
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GGuMake
Profile Joined January 2015
United States74 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 22:57:43
January 27 2015 22:55 GMT
#51
My picks to advance going from left ---> right.

Kane/Happy, Violet/Bunny, Polt/Jim, ForGG/Sen, Snute/XiGua, Hydra/Showtime, Naniwa/Serral, Iaguz/MacSeed.
Z(7) T(5) P(4)
Fan of: Hydra - Dark - Life - Snute - Bunny - Polt
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 27 2015 22:59 GMT
#52
gumba, live attendance to cheer for polt?`
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
January 27 2015 23:00 GMT
#53
On January 28 2015 07:46 swag_bro wrote:
My predictions:

Kane, TargA, PiG, Happy - This group was very easy in terms of who will get out of the group. I chose Kane because he is just better than the other three. The 2nd person who will make it out of this group is a little more difficult to pick. I chose PiG because I feel that he is a very great Terran. How many players can proudly say that they defeated NesTea, a three time GSL winner and the most accomplished Zerg in SC2 to date? Not many people can make that claim. I normally would pick Happy, but he is a known cheater ever since the whole stream cheating on the Russian stream thing. I used to give Happy the benefit of the doubt for not being able to reproduce his online results offline.

viOLet, Bunny, MajOr, MaNa - viOLet is Korean playing against some Europeans and North Americans. Enough said. I didn't pick MajOr because he most likely will not even show up. Otherwise, I would pick him since he has winning records against top Koreans such as Polt. It was hard to pick either MaNa or Bunny, so I went with Bunny. Bunny's form has been better than MaNa's, despite his inability to beat easy opponents. Actually, with Bunny's form these days, he might actually win a PREMIER tournament.

Polt, TLO, Kelazhur, Jim - Polt is clearly superior to the other three players in this group. The person who might make it in 2nd place can either be TLO or Jim. TLO is well known by the SC2 community for being inconsistent so I will go with Jim. He is consistent enough and has some weird Chinese builds to back him up.

puCK, ForGG, Firecake, Sen - First place will obviously be fOrGG. The man beat Life, the WCS Finals 2014 champion, fresh off of his win. fOrGG is the best player out of any of these players right now. The next player to leave this group will be Sen. Sen is just looking too solid these days to lose to Firecake or... puCK.

Astrea, Snute, uThermal, XiGua - This group is just too easy to predict. Snute and XiGua, in that order. Snute is a tournament winner and XiGua is a WCG runner up. These players' achievements simply can't be ignored. BUT I can kind of see an Astrea beating Snute AND XiGua since he, after all, managed to beat Scarlett, the best foreign Zerg in the world if it was not for her wrists.

Hydra, ShoWTimE, MorroW, iAsonu - Hydra because he is Korean. Morrow is an IEM champion, and defeating Idra at that. Morrow will definitely make it out of this group. His play is too solid compared to the other foreigners.

Suppy, NaNiwa, Serral, Has - NaNiwa is the best foreigner in the world right now. There is nobody else, besides Stephano, who can suddenly come out of retirement and make it to premier without practice. Naniwa truly has the SC2 gift that all other players want. Although I think fOrGG will win this WCS, I think that NaNiwa will take second place losing 3-4 by some weird SCV pull from fOrGG. Second will probably be Has. Chinese players are almost as good as Koreans therefore being better than other foreigners.

HuK, Welmu, Iaguz, MacSed - Despite what people say about HuK being a washed up has been, he is still a top 5 foreigner. That is why he will make it out. 1,2 for Welmu, 3,4 for Iaguz, 5,6 for MacSed. I rolled a 2 on my dice. Welmu it is.





I got swag_bro'd
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
January 27 2015 23:03 GMT
#54




I'm sad
Vasacast always in my <3
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States340 Posts
January 27 2015 23:03 GMT
#55
I really want to see Naniwa and Kane meet at some point.
Excited to see how China and Taiwan performs!
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
January 27 2015 23:08 GMT
#56
Suppy just making excuses amirite?!!1
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 27 2015 23:09 GMT
#57
Naniwa's still got a solid shot imo
asongdotnet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1060 Posts
January 27 2015 23:17 GMT
#58
another redraw incoming? lol
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
January 27 2015 23:17 GMT
#59

soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-27 23:20:59
January 27 2015 23:19 GMT
#60
On January 28 2015 08:00 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2015 07:46 swag_bro wrote:
My predictions:

Kane, TargA, PiG, Happy - This group was very easy in terms of who will get out of the group. I chose Kane because he is just better than the other three. The 2nd person who will make it out of this group is a little more difficult to pick. I chose PiG because I feel that he is a very great Terran. How many players can proudly say that they defeated NesTea, a three time GSL winner and the most accomplished Zerg in SC2 to date? Not many people can make that claim. I normally would pick Happy, but he is a known cheater ever since the whole stream cheating on the Russian stream thing. I used to give Happy the benefit of the doubt for not being able to reproduce his online results offline.

viOLet, Bunny, MajOr, MaNa - viOLet is Korean playing against some Europeans and North Americans. Enough said. I didn't pick MajOr because he most likely will not even show up. Otherwise, I would pick him since he has winning records against top Koreans such as Polt. It was hard to pick either MaNa or Bunny, so I went with Bunny. Bunny's form has been better than MaNa's, despite his inability to beat easy opponents. Actually, with Bunny's form these days, he might actually win a PREMIER tournament.

Polt, TLO, Kelazhur, Jim - Polt is clearly superior to the other three players in this group. The person who might make it in 2nd place can either be TLO or Jim. TLO is well known by the SC2 community for being inconsistent so I will go with Jim. He is consistent enough and has some weird Chinese builds to back him up.

puCK, ForGG, Firecake, Sen - First place will obviously be fOrGG. The man beat Life, the WCS Finals 2014 champion, fresh off of his win. fOrGG is the best player out of any of these players right now. The next player to leave this group will be Sen. Sen is just looking too solid these days to lose to Firecake or... puCK.

Astrea, Snute, uThermal, XiGua - This group is just too easy to predict. Snute and XiGua, in that order. Snute is a tournament winner and XiGua is a WCG runner up. These players' achievements simply can't be ignored. BUT I can kind of see an Astrea beating Snute AND XiGua since he, after all, managed to beat Scarlett, the best foreign Zerg in the world if it was not for her wrists.

Hydra, ShoWTimE, MorroW, iAsonu - Hydra because he is Korean. Morrow is an IEM champion, and defeating Idra at that. Morrow will definitely make it out of this group. His play is too solid compared to the other foreigners.

Suppy, NaNiwa, Serral, Has - NaNiwa is the best foreigner in the world right now. There is nobody else, besides Stephano, who can suddenly come out of retirement and make it to premier without practice. Naniwa truly has the SC2 gift that all other players want. Although I think fOrGG will win this WCS, I think that NaNiwa will take second place losing 3-4 by some weird SCV pull from fOrGG. Second will probably be Has. Chinese players are almost as good as Koreans therefore being better than other foreigners.

HuK, Welmu, Iaguz, MacSed - Despite what people say about HuK being a washed up has been, he is still a top 5 foreigner. That is why he will make it out. 1,2 for Welmu, 3,4 for Iaguz, 5,6 for MacSed. I rolled a 2 on my dice. Welmu it is.





I got swag_bro'd



Wow so many predictions for nothing in the end.
You only need this sentence :

Naniwa wins WCS premier league.


also why in the name of god is the first group stage being played offline ?
That's retarded.
regards.
RIP MKP
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