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NaNiwa vs The World: The Icon and the Pariah - Page 15

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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
January 18 2015 12:58 GMT
#281
On January 18 2015 21:55 TargA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:52 Liquid`TLO wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:50 Penev wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:45 Flopgun wrote:
On January 18 2015 14:09 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]



From WCS Player Handbook:

Player Rules and Responsibilities
16.0
Player Code of Conduct

B.
Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.

17.0 Player Code of Conduct Offenses

B.
Violations of the Code of Conduct may vary including a warning, an immediate disqualification, removal from the tournament, and/or restriction from participation in future events.


https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5WJHXI5A98CS1394665510029.pdf


If drawing inappropriate things with scans is not ok, then this can not be acceptable.

Meh, that's so last years handbook. Now everything goes!


THERE'S NO RULES! I declare myself winner of WCS 2015 season 1! WOOOH


I also declare myself the winner of wcs 2015 season 1, we'll have to fight to the death for the title!

There's already 800 bucks in it! Not fair though; You'll win easy..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
January 18 2015 12:58 GMT
#282
It's funny how Kane and people call for WCS rules in this situation as if he needed to say absolutely nothing during his stay in WCS lel
TL+ Member
onlyRox
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany26 Posts
January 18 2015 12:59 GMT
#283
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last.
TaeJa Life InnoVatioN Maru PartinG <3
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
January 18 2015 13:02 GMT
#284
On January 18 2015 21:45 Flopgun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 14:09 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]



From WCS Player Handbook:

Player Rules and Responsibilities
16.0
Player Code of Conduct

B.
Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.

17.0 Player Code of Conduct Offenses

B.
Violations of the Code of Conduct may vary including a warning, an immediate disqualification, removal from the tournament, and/or restriction from participation in future events.


https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5WJHXI5A98CS1394665510029.pdf


If drawing inappropriate things with scans is not ok, then this can not be acceptable.


Thanks for that. However, in this case I think that the players were talking outside of the game about things which are only indirectly related to the game. I mean, isn't it a personal business of the players what kind of a relation they have in real life outside of the game?

One could consider the legal interpretations of tweets that wish physical harm or stage physical fights, but I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees here that this would be a hugely overblown case. Finally, Naniwa removed his tweet, so he backed off from his statement.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 18 2015 13:05 GMT
#285
On January 18 2015 22:02 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:45 Flopgun wrote:
On January 18 2015 14:09 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]



From WCS Player Handbook:

Player Rules and Responsibilities
16.0
Player Code of Conduct

B.
Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.

17.0 Player Code of Conduct Offenses

B.
Violations of the Code of Conduct may vary including a warning, an immediate disqualification, removal from the tournament, and/or restriction from participation in future events.


https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5WJHXI5A98CS1394665510029.pdf


If drawing inappropriate things with scans is not ok, then this can not be acceptable.


Thanks for that. However, in this case I think that the players were talking outside of the game about things which are only indirectly related to the game. I mean, isn't it a personal business of the players what kind of a relation they have in real life outside of the game?

One could consider the legal interpretations of tweets that wish physical harm or stage physical fights, but I'm pretty sure that everyone agrees here that this would be a hugely overblown case. Finally, Naniwa removed his tweet, so he backed off from his statement.


I think he remembered this:

The WCS Administration team is also aware of other reported infractions of our Behavior rule (16.B in the WCS Player Handbook) on various social media and other public locations by players competing in the World Championship Series. Warnings will continue to be issued when players are in violation of the Code of Conduct, and further action may be taken after additional review. We take all reports of misconduct very seriously and will investigate all matters to maintain the ongoing confidence of our competitors and viewers.


http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-europe-disciplinary-action-jan-13-2015

So it was smart to delete that tweet. Pretty sure he would've gotten a warning at least. Blizzard is monitoring the twitter game.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
January 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#286
On January 18 2015 21:59 onlyRox wrote:
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last.


No there's not.


SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
January 18 2015 13:06 GMT
#287
On January 18 2015 21:56 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:52 Liquid`TLO wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:50 Penev wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:45 Flopgun wrote:
On January 18 2015 14:09 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]



From WCS Player Handbook:

Player Rules and Responsibilities
16.0
Player Code of Conduct

B.
Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.

17.0 Player Code of Conduct Offenses

B.
Violations of the Code of Conduct may vary including a warning, an immediate disqualification, removal from the tournament, and/or restriction from participation in future events.


https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5WJHXI5A98CS1394665510029.pdf


If drawing inappropriate things with scans is not ok, then this can not be acceptable.

Meh, that's so last years handbook. Now everything goes!


THERE'S NO RULES! I declare myself winner of WCS 2015 season 1! WOOOH


C'mon! Let's keep it a little realistic at least...


Daaamn xD! That's harsh!
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 18 2015 13:11 GMT
#288
On January 18 2015 21:55 TargA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:52 Liquid`TLO wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:50 Penev wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:45 Flopgun wrote:
On January 18 2015 14:09 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]



From WCS Player Handbook:

Player Rules and Responsibilities
16.0
Player Code of Conduct

B.
Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.

17.0 Player Code of Conduct Offenses

B.
Violations of the Code of Conduct may vary including a warning, an immediate disqualification, removal from the tournament, and/or restriction from participation in future events.


https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5WJHXI5A98CS1394665510029.pdf


If drawing inappropriate things with scans is not ok, then this can not be acceptable.

Meh, that's so last years handbook. Now everything goes!


THERE'S NO RULES! I declare myself winner of WCS 2015 season 1! WOOOH


I also declare myself the winner of wcs 2015 season 1, we'll have to fight to the death for the title!



Death by tray it shall be!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
January 18 2015 13:24 GMT
#289
Sports has plenty of bad boys - they bring drama into the game. Here I am thinking of the likes of Jose Mourinho, not that piece of human effluence Michael Vicks.

Great to see Naniwa back in the game - loved his skill and the excitement/controversy he brought into the game. He was, and probably still is, the only Protoss I will ever support against a Terran player.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 18 2015 13:25 GMT
#290
I don't like this 'hate campaign' versus naniwa from Kane and others. Reminds me of the incontrol and idra high fiving moment vs destiny. Easy to pick on someone with a group. It's just silly.

I mean Naniwa has no filter, so he's brutally honest which makes him very rude and people think he's an asshole for it, which is totally fine of course. But gathering together as a group versus 1 person is way worse than being an asshole, it means you can't distance yourself from it which means you are no better a person. What is wrong with just accepting you don't like someone. You don't have to get along with every other progamer. Why do you need to gather together and try to demoralize him... Sad group mentality.

I was never a fan of Naniwa but seeing the reactions to his return makes me want cheer for him lol.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
January 18 2015 13:26 GMT
#291
On January 18 2015 22:06 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:59 onlyRox wrote:
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last.


No there's not.




raging at Tefel as the worth player on earht


dunno about that
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 18 2015 13:28 GMT
#292
On January 18 2015 22:26 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 22:06 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:59 onlyRox wrote:
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last.


No there's not.




Show nested quote +
raging at Tefel as the worth player on earht


dunno about that


its a quote
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
January 18 2015 13:28 GMT
#293
On January 18 2015 21:52 Liquid`TLO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:50 Penev wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:45 Flopgun wrote:
On January 18 2015 14:09 The_Templar wrote:
[image loading]



From WCS Player Handbook:

Player Rules and Responsibilities
16.0
Player Code of Conduct

B.
Behavior – Players are required to behave in a sportsmanlike manner towards other competitors, members of the administration team, media, and fans.

17.0 Player Code of Conduct Offenses

B.
Violations of the Code of Conduct may vary including a warning, an immediate disqualification, removal from the tournament, and/or restriction from participation in future events.


https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_folder_media/5WJHXI5A98CS1394665510029.pdf


If drawing inappropriate things with scans is not ok, then this can not be acceptable.

Meh, that's so last years handbook. Now everything goes!


THERE'S NO RULES! I declare myself winner of WCS 2015 season 1! WOOOH


Sure when LotV comes out and you can crazy strat people! Ala SH drops at the start of Hots.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
January 18 2015 13:28 GMT
#294
On January 18 2015 22:26 Noonius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 22:06 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:59 onlyRox wrote:
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last.


No there's not.




Show nested quote +
raging at Tefel as the worth player on earht


dunno about that

Damn casuals!
http://i.imgur.com/WkP1Dz2.jpg
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 18 2015 13:30 GMT
#295
On January 18 2015 22:28 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 22:26 Noonius wrote:
On January 18 2015 22:06 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
On January 18 2015 21:59 onlyRox wrote:
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last.


No there's not.




raging at Tefel as the worth player on earht


dunno about that

Damn casuals!
http://i.imgur.com/WkP1Dz2.jpg

It's "worst" on that pic though, not "worth"
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PepsiMaxxxx
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden5452 Posts
January 18 2015 13:31 GMT
#296
Oh man, do I feel silly now. ^^
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
January 18 2015 13:31 GMT
#297
On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job!


The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that.

WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32:
+ Show Spoiler +
Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay;


All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
TsogiMaster
Profile Joined October 2014
191 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 13:34:20
January 18 2015 13:33 GMT
#298
Gaming is love. Gaming is life.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
January 18 2015 13:38 GMT
#299
On January 18 2015 22:31 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:
On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job!


The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that.

WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32:
+ Show Spoiler +
Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay;


All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them.


Thanks. I was wondering if this apparently pro-Russian fan from Ukraine was presenting the facts correctly or not, so thanks for clarifications. Btw. by standard Twitch delay you mean a few seconds? Anyway, the conclusions are the same.
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany612 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 13:43:44
January 18 2015 13:39 GMT
#300
Can someone please do one of those crazy hype trailers for the NaNiwa vs. Nerchio match? With all the drama etc.? Just as the icing on the cake? That's like the most hype match since the WCS finals.

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