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On January 18 2015 22:38 pms wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 22:31 messioso wrote:On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job! The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that. WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32: + Show Spoiler +Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay; All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them. Thanks. I was wondering if this apparently pro-Russian fan from Ukraine was presenting the facts correctly or not, so thanks for clarifications. Btw. by standard Twitch delay you mean a few seconds? Anyway, the conclusions are the same.
I find it can range from anything to 10-50 seconds usually.
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oooh. Naniwa. Didnt miss him at all. He is a garbage person and thats it. U have to accept it.
He cannot control himself. He is not 5 years old.
And I disagree with Stichu. If Naniwa was more stable and could control himself he could have reached in Sc2 much more.
I dont wanna overlook his character because of his SC2 achievments.
The best thing we could is just ignore him.
RIP
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but what if naniwa and idra team up
sc2=alyveGaeM?
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On January 18 2015 22:31 messioso wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job! The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that. WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32: + Show Spoiler +Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay; All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them.
Ah, finally cleared up. Expect your post to be quoted a million times in a million threads :D
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On January 18 2015 22:43 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 22:31 messioso wrote:On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job! The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that. WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32: + Show Spoiler +Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay; All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them. Ah, finally cleared up. Expect your post to be quoted a million times in a million threads :D
I cleared it up multiple times the very same evening already, surprised it's still being discussed 
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On January 18 2015 22:44 messioso wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 22:43 Penev wrote:On January 18 2015 22:31 messioso wrote:On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job! The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that. WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32: + Show Spoiler +Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay; All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them. Ah, finally cleared up. Expect your post to be quoted a million times in a million threads :D I cleared it up multiple times the very same evening already, surprised it's still being discussed
This is because other people spread false rumors.
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On January 18 2015 22:44 messioso wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 22:43 Penev wrote:On January 18 2015 22:31 messioso wrote:On January 18 2015 21:12 pms wrote:On January 18 2015 20:55 Alex007 wrote:
Why the hell are TL authors not even checking what they are writing? It was figured out like 100 times that Russian stream HAD a 3-min delay (which was less than 5-min on other streams, but still it was clear, that nobody could listern to a stream, it's a bullshit), so you're just lying in the article. Great job! The Russian stream was breaking the rules by considerable margin of 2 minutes and that's what matters. In fact, they should be punished in some way for that. WCS Player Handbook, pg. 32: + Show Spoiler +Guidelines for non-official World Championship Series Shoutcasters and Streams
The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;
The stream must be broadcast on a 5 minute delay; All the other streams had 3 minutes. The Russian stream had 0 delay beyond standard Twitch delay. If they didn't, I wouldn't have removed them. Ah, finally cleared up. Expect your post to be quoted a million times in a million threads :D I cleared it up multiple times the very same evening already, surprised it's still being discussed
Well, I'll help you with that from now on then. 
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It can't be denied that he will bring some viewers back. Others want to see him win, other want to see him lose.
He's a dirty protoss and a toxic attitude player so I consider myself as anti-fan. Ragequit vs. Polt to "retirement" and losing to Thorzain in TSL3 finals put smile on my face. Anyway, WCS is going to be entertaining this year!
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On January 18 2015 22:31 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
Oh man, do I feel silly now. ^^
It's intentional :p
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stuchiu dropping the 10 pool for a proxy gate confirmed.
good read and opinion piece
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On January 18 2015 20:24 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 20:03 boxerfred wrote:
10% of his attitude in here and he'd be permed. Nani is posting in here, and he is not permed. So he must be behaving a lot better here than the average community I suppose?
There are no mods on twitter. Read what I said, if he'd put only 10% of his attitude in TL posts he'd be fucking permed.
You know if you have a irrelevant guy that acts dumb, noone cares or hates (see Lillekannin). But Nani a) is a ridiculously good player and b) knows exactly what his attitude does for him and the game. I hate on him so hard because he's doing this shit all the time over and over again - on fucking purpose. If he was just another douche where you could say "well that guy is pretty dumb no need to rage or care", but he's an intelligent guy. He is sharp about the game and about who to bash in what situation, and in contrary to (e.g.) Idra, he's not at all depending on his mindset when going into series.
Naniwa is a guy that uses the fact that there is no mechanic in esports to punish his behaviour in a smart way to keep the attention sticking to him. That is all. That wouldn't be possible if he'd be a good player, but there's a difference between beating the majority of a meh foreign scene and being totally irrelevant in Korea. Nani would be totally irrelevant in Korea now, even with half a year of training down there.
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On January 18 2015 22:28 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 22:26 Noonius wrote:On January 18 2015 22:06 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:On January 18 2015 21:59 onlyRox wrote:
well written article!
there is a spelling mistake in the sentence next to the last. No there's not. raging at Tefel as the worth player on earht dunno about that Damn casuals! http://i.imgur.com/WkP1Dz2.jpg
you calling me a casual? SHOW ME THE WORD "WORTH" on that screenshot and I'll confess to being a casual
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On January 18 2015 23:06 boxerfred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 20:24 BaneRiders wrote:On January 18 2015 20:03 boxerfred wrote:
10% of his attitude in here and he'd be permed. Nani is posting in here, and he is not permed. So he must be behaving a lot better here than the average community I suppose? There are no mods on twitter. Read what I said, if he'd put only 10% of his attitude in TL posts he'd be fucking permed. You know if you have a irrelevant guy that acts dumb, noone cares or hates (see Lillekannin). But Nani a) is a ridiculously good player and b) knows exactly what his attitude does for him and the game. I hate on him so hard because he's doing this shit all the time over and over again - on fucking purpose. If he was just another douche where you could say "well that guy is pretty dumb no need to rage or care", but he's an intelligent guy. He is sharp about the game and about who to bash in what situation, and in contrary to (e.g.) Idra, he's not at all depending on his mindset when going into series. Naniwa is a guy that uses the fact that there is no mechanic in esports to punish his behaviour in a smart way to keep the attention sticking to him. That is all. That wouldn't be possible if he'd be a good player, but there's a difference between beating the majority of a meh foreign scene and being totally irrelevant in Korea. Nani would be totally irrelevant in Korea now, even with half a year of training down there.
I see Naniwa the same as you do. He is very intelligent and knows what he's doing when he rages/flames/etc.
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On January 18 2015 13:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 13:49 mYiKane wrote:On January 18 2015 13:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I wish Naniwa had never come back to Starcraft. Don't worry, he's bound to get boo'd into retirement again soon enough Let's hope. Just one week until Nerchio gives him a lesson in Swarm Host and we'll see how he handles that.
You do know that if you had said that about any other player you would have been banned or at the very least warned. Naniwa bring controversy and is one of very, very few interesting people to watch in Sc2. The scene has been stale for a long ass time and we need some colorful characters.
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On January 18 2015 23:01 lichter wrote:It's intentional :p
damn ol' boys club. Protecting the shield
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On January 18 2015 23:17 rehnen wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 13:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On January 18 2015 13:49 mYiKane wrote:On January 18 2015 13:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I wish Naniwa had never come back to Starcraft. Don't worry, he's bound to get boo'd into retirement again soon enough Let's hope. Just one week until Nerchio gives him a lesson in Swarm Host and we'll see how he handles that. You do know that if you had said that about any other player you would have been banned or at the very least warned. Naniwa bring controversy and is one of very, very few interesting people to watch in Sc2. The scene has been stale for a long ass time and we need some colorful characters.
The scene doesnt need a rager of his caliber. He is an absolutely terrible person, who blames pretty much everything else than himself for losses. There is a reason why so many people dislike him greatly.
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Nerchio giving lessons to NaNiwa was my favourite :D
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On January 18 2015 23:17 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 23:06 boxerfred wrote:On January 18 2015 20:24 BaneRiders wrote:On January 18 2015 20:03 boxerfred wrote:
10% of his attitude in here and he'd be permed. Nani is posting in here, and he is not permed. So he must be behaving a lot better here than the average community I suppose? There are no mods on twitter. Read what I said, if he'd put only 10% of his attitude in TL posts he'd be fucking permed. You know if you have a irrelevant guy that acts dumb, noone cares or hates (see Lillekannin). But Nani a) is a ridiculously good player and b) knows exactly what his attitude does for him and the game. I hate on him so hard because he's doing this shit all the time over and over again - on fucking purpose. If he was just another douche where you could say "well that guy is pretty dumb no need to rage or care", but he's an intelligent guy. He is sharp about the game and about who to bash in what situation, and in contrary to (e.g.) Idra, he's not at all depending on his mindset when going into series. Naniwa is a guy that uses the fact that there is no mechanic in esports to punish his behaviour in a smart way to keep the attention sticking to him. That is all. That wouldn't be possible if he'd be a good player, but there's a difference between beating the majority of a meh foreign scene and being totally irrelevant in Korea. Nani would be totally irrelevant in Korea now, even with half a year of training down there. I see Naniwa the same as you do. He is very intelligent and knows what he's doing when he rages/flames/etc.
Hmm, I think you're both a bit paranoid about this. NaNiwa is an ass for sure but to think he created all the drama he has in his career on purpose? No way. He is now a little bit of course.
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Naniwa is the best thing that can happen to sc2 right now.
AT first i didn't like the guy but in the end i realized that's he's the true god.
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On January 18 2015 18:53 Nerchio wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 18:51 Legio wrote:On January 18 2015 18:46 Nerchio wrote:On January 18 2015 16:59 OtherWorld wrote:On January 18 2015 16:57 thecrazymunchkin wrote:Nerchio respectful, professional, non-drama mongering pro gamers lol You missed the "or" part. Though Nerchio never accused ESL's PCs or soundproofing for his losses afaik. Meh, I think that most of what I did and why a lot of people don't like me was really blown up out of proportion. It's true that I was always balance whining but it's my opinion about the game. Sure there was some soft insults from time to time which were probably quite unnecessary but that weren't the end of the world either. Being on the other side of insults or whines from other players I actually have more fun instead of being butthurt, thinking to myself "Did you really say that?". I think you guys(or progamers) are really too sensitive from time to time, especially those that do the same behing curtains. Out of curiosity, would you ever try to get an opponent disqualified from a tournament if he BM'ed you? Of course not, considering what I did in the past that would be hypocrisy. And as I said in my post, I don't really take any insult towards me too personal inside the game and I think nobody really should unless it's something really bad.
firecake bad :D ?
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