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The Best of the West - A WCS Challenger Primer

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The Best of the West - A WCS Challenger Primer

Text bylichter
January 17th, 2015 06:00 GMT
2015 WCS Season 1

WCS Season One
Challenger League



WCS EU
WCS NA
WCS LA

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

The Best of the West Primer


by lichter

With the qualifiers for WCS almost over (only Taiwan has yet to finish their qualifiers), we now know the roster of players competing for a coveted spot in WCS Premier League. While many players should be content making it to Challenger for Season 1 and earning a nice $2,000 paycheck, the dream of course is to reach the pinnacle of Starcraft 2 competition. Premier League is just one series win away for all these players, and it's difficult to argue that there are more deserving players than these.

So, before Challenger League gets underway it's a good time to take a quick look at each player and their prospects for 2015.

(Winrates are HotS only)

WCS Europe



(T)Beastyqt
Qualifier Path: (P)Zeth, (T)uThermal, (T)MorroW, (T)Dayshi
Last Good Result: WCS EU S2 2013
WCS 2014 History: None whatsoever
Winrates: vs 62% | vs 54% | vs 53%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Majestic and his 54% winrate in PvT
Our Expectations for 2015: One appearance in Premier League, and no Challenger repeats

(T)HeRoMaRinE
Qualifier Path: (Z)FireCake, (Z)TLO, (Z)Petraeus, (Z)Zanster
Last Good Result: 2nd place at ESL Pro Series Germany Winter
WCS 2014 History: 2 Challenger appearances
Winrates: vs 60% | vs 62% | vs 69%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Delicious foreign zergs
Our Expectations for 2015: Kills more zergs than anyone, loses to every protoss

(P)Lilbow
Qualifier Path: (P)Krr, (P)MaNa, (T)MarineLorD, (T)Bunny
Last Good Result: 2nd place in Who's The Best European?
WCS 2014 History: Premier League S1, Challenger League S2/3
Winrates: vs 61% | vs 62% | vs 73%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: FireCake, who he is 10-1 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Contends with HeRoMaRinE for most zergs defeated; 1 Ro16

(T)ForGG
Qualifier Path: (Z)JonnyREcco, (P)PtitDrogo, (P)BlinG, (P)Harstem
Last Good Result: 1st place at Dreamhack Winter
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Ro4, S3 - Ro8
Winrates: vs 62% | vs 77% | vs 62%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Terran.
Our Expectations for 2015: Loses a single series to a foreign terran all year. Wins a season.

(P)PtitDrogo
Qualifier Path: (Z)FireCake, (Z)Nerchio, (Z)Serral, (Z)Snute
Last Good Result: ???
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 55% | vs 44% | vs 61%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Definitely zerg
Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero

(T)Kas
Qualifier Path: (Z)roof, (P)GunGFuBanDa, (Z)Lambo, (Z)Hanfy
Last Good Result: Let's just say it's been a while
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Challenger, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 57% | vs 59% | vs 60%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Some young upstart that he can yell at to get off his lawn
Our Expectations for 2015: A solid place in Premier League Ro32

(Z)Starbuck
Qualifier Path: (P)Theo, (Z)Bly, (P)Welmu, (T)Happy
Last Good Result: Ro8 at DH Valencia 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 64% | vs 62% | vs 64%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone who plays predictably standard
Our Expectations for 2015: One surprising Ro8 run, one surprising drop out of Challenger

(T)Bunny
Qualifier Path: (P)Snovski, (P)Zeth, (Z)Zanster, (T)MarineLorD
Last Good Result: 1st place at Gfinity G3
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro16, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro8
Winrates: vs 63% | vs 52% | vs 65%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Anyone but terran
Our Expectations for 2015: First foreign WCS champion!??! Or a bunch of Ro8s I guess

(Z)TargA
Qualifier Path: (P)Theo, (Z)Zanster, (Z)Snute, (Z)Petraeus
Last Good Result: DH Moscow Ro16
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Challenger, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 59% | vs 58% | vs 66%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Bly, who he is 13-6 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Once in Premier, twice in Challenger

(P)NaNiwa
Qualifier Path: (P)SpaceMarine, (P)MaNa, (Z)Hanfy, (T)Happy
Last Good Result: Previously retired
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 64% | vs 69% | vs 64%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone who annoys him on twitter
Our Expectations for 2015: Much twitter feud, much drama, much money

(T)uThermal
Qualifier Path: (P)Tarrantius, prospect, (Z)Lambo, (Z)Serral
Last Good Result: A lot of minor tournaments
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 61% | vs 67% | vs 59%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone bad at TvT
Our Expectations for 2015: Gets in a Ro16 because of an all terran group

(T)MarineLorD
Qualifier Path: (P)Evire, Miszu, (Z)FireCake, hope
Last Good Result: 4th place at Gamers Assembly 2014
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 55% | vs 52% | vs 66%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: PtitDrogo, who he is 12-5 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus

(Z)Snute
Qualifier Path: Guru, (Z)JoNa, (Z)Tefel, (Z)Petraeus
Last Good Result: IEM San Jose Ro8
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro8, S2 - Ro16, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 66% | vs 65% | vs 64%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Bly, who he is 22-8 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Lots of swarmhost games that will make me regret covering this league

(P)MaNa
Qualifier Path: (P)PrimeLoT, (T)DieStar, (T)DeMusliM, (T)Happy
Last Good Result: 1st place in Who's The Best European?
WCS 2014 History: S2 - Ro16, S3 - Ro16
Winrates: vs 58% | vs 54% | vs 52%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Anyone but a TL teamkill, since he's usually the victim
Our Expectations for 2015: Proves he's not actually the best European, but does pretty okay in Premier League

(P)Majestic
Qualifier Path: (P)chubZ, (T)Dayshi, (Z)sLivko, (Z)TLO
Last Good Result: Ro16 at Dreamhack Valencia
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 55% | vs 54% | vs 62%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Probably doesn't matter
Our Expectations for 2015: $2000.

(P)Welmu
Qualifier Path: (T)frozz, (P)SpaceMarine, (Z)Bly, (P)fraer
Last Good Result: 1st place at Assembly Summer 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro8, S2 - Ro8, S3 - Ro16
Winrates: vs 61% | vs 63% | vs 58%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: MarineLorD, who he is 10-1 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Finally wins a playoff match for a Ro4 appearance

(Z)FireCake
Qualifier Path: (P)CoolTea, (Z)SortOf, (Z)Ret, (T)DeMusliM
Last Good Result: None
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 50% | vs 52% | vs 46%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone easy to tilt in chat
Our Expectations for 2015: Lives up to his name as neo-Stephano, minus the winning

(T)MorroW
Qualifier Path: hephiastas, (Z)Tefel, (T)GoOdy, (Z)Revolver
Last Good Result: A reaaaaally long time ago
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Challenger, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 55% | vs 54% | vs 61%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: FireCake?
Our Expectations for 2015: Every time he wins, the casters will remind us that he won IEM Cologne in 2010

(Z)Nerchio
Qualifier Path: (P)qbeN, (Z)ZhuGeLiang, (T)Complain, (P)SpaceMarine
Last Good Result: Not a lot of tournaments outside WCS EU
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro16, S2 - Ro16, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 63% | vs 64% | vs 66%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: MaNa, who he is 56-22 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Solid Premier League player and a lot of quotable tweets for future articles

(T)Happy
Qualifier Path: (P)Theo, (T)Strelok, (P)Adonminus, Boombox
Last Good Result: Ro8 at Dreamhack Moscow
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro8
Winrates: vs 65% | vs 60% | vs 64%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Bly, who he is 79-44 against
Our Expectations for 2015: 9 straight WCS Premier League appearances? We need an award named after him if he does it

(P)BlinG
Qualifier Path: (P)GenjiTakiya, (Z)Lambo, (T)DeMusliM, (Z)TLO
Last Good Result: 4th place at Insomnia51 (?)
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro16, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 63% | vs 60% | vs 51%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Anyone but Nerchio, who he is 2-22 against
Our Expectations for 2015: More interviews with his mom as he maintains his Premier League spot

(P)Harstem
Qualifier Path: (Z)QwerelL, (T)DieStar, (P)StarNaN, (Z)roof
Last Good Result: 1st place, Insomnia51
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Ro16, S3 - Ro16
Winrates: vs 63% | vs 52% | vs 55%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Protoss
Our Expectations for 2015: Lots and lots and lots of selfies, and maybe a Ro16

(Z)Ret
Qualifier Path: hope, (P)DnS, (P)elfi, (Z)Miniraser
Last Good Result: 2012?
WCS 2014 History: S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 57% | vs 41% | vs 59%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone who will let him build 90 drones before they attack
Our Expectations for 2015: Follow Ret @LiquidRet. Maybe a Premier League appearance if he doesn't get a terran

(P)PsiOniC
Qualifier Path: (P)Krr, (P)Zeth, (P)ShoWTimE, (T)Strelok
Last Good Result: None
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 62% | vs 53% | vs 50%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone he can cointoss to victory
Our Expectations for 2015: None

(P)ShoWTimE
Qualifier Path: (T)Complain, (Z)TLO, (Z)Serral
Last Good Result: 1st at ESL Pro Series Germany: Winter 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Challenger, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 64% | vs 62% | vs 62%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: MorroW, who he is 8-0 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Alternating stints in Challenger and Premier

(Z)Bly
Qualifier Path: (P)fraer, (Z)Petraeus, (Z)Miniraser
Last Good Result: 2012
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Challenger, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 67% | vs 50% | vs 57%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: A protoss with bad PvZ
Our Expectations for 2015: A Ro32 appearance, but a longer stint in Challenger

(Z)TLO
Qualifier Path: (Z)Lambo, (Z)Tefel, (Z)Hanfy, (Z)Miniraser
Last Good Result: Ro4 at IEM Sao Paulo 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro16, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro16
Winrates: vs 57% | vs 52% | vs 55%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Anyone but a Russian
Our Expectations for 2015: TLO status quo, so more Ro32s and some Ro16s

(Z)Serral
Qualifier Path: (P)Adonminus, (Z)Hanfy, (Z)Petraeus
Last Good Result: Ro4 at Copenhagen Games 2014
WCS 2014 History: S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 56% | vs 62% | vs 58%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone he can surprise
Our Expectations for 2015: Steadily improving results, maybe a Ro16

WCS North America


(Z)Hydra
Qualifier Path: patnessdark, GravTrace, TheTRUTH, (T)Polt
Last Good Result: Ro4 at IEM Singapore
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 57% | vs 66% | vs 66%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Any foreign non-protoss
Our Expectations for 2015: Underperforms, still places top 4 at least once

(T)qxc
Qualifier Path: Kingdom, (Z)Moosegills, (T)Xenocider, (P)puCK
Last Good Result: Ro8 at Redbull Atlanta
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 54% | vs 57% | vs 55%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Someone else who is retiring after season 1
Our Expectations for 2015: Makes Ro16 or Ro8 before going inactive

(P)Bails
Qualifier Path: Zen, (P)sWs, (Z)Goswser, (Z)ViBE
Last Good Result: Top 16 at Redbull Detroit
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 56% | vs 57% | vs 55%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: The weaker of Astrea/Semper
Our Expectations for 2015: Wins qualifiers before losing to better opponents in Challenger

(Z)viOLet
Qualifier Path: GyuRi, (T)ElhayM, (P)Astrea, (T)MaSa
Last Good Result: Ro4 at Redbull Detroit
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Ro8, S3 - Ro16
Winrates: vs 64% | vs 55% | vs 63%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Anyone except Terran
Our Expectations for 2015: One deep run, otherwise hovers around Ro16 and Ro32

(Z)Kane
Qualifier Path: SwifTFiRe, (T)avilo, (Z)Goswser, (T)Polt
Last Good Result: Ro16 at Redbull Detroit
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 63% | vs 56% | vs 59%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Protoss
Our Expectations for 2015: One Premier spot, stays in Challenger twice

(P)puCK
Qualifier Path: THERIDDLER, (P)PiLiPiLi, simon, (Z)bioice
Last Good Result: 4th at WEC 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro16, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 59% | vs 47% | vs 59%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: ?
Our Expectations for 2015: One appearance in Premier, one in Challenger

(T)MaSa
Qualifier Path: FATALBUNNY, (P)Trace, (Z)JonSnow, (T)Xenocider
Last Good Result: Qualified for IEM Toronto
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 68% | vs 69% | vs 69%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: A foreigner
Our Expectations for 2015: Consistently kills fellow NA players before falling to the first or second Korean he meets

(P)Astrea
Qualifier Path: (P)Creature, (T)Semper, (Z)Scarlett, (T)EJK
Last Good Result: Took two games off HyuN in a ZOTAC Cup during WoL
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 56% | vs 62% | vs 63%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: A Zerg vulnerable to 2-base all-ins
Our Expectations for 2015: Might qualify for Challenger a second time

(T)Polt
Qualifier Path: Bepo, PandaBearMe, (T)Intense, (P)Minigun
Last Good Result: 1st place at Redbull Detroit
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro8, S2 - Ro8, S3 - Ro4
Winrates: vs 71% | vs 66% | vs 67%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Not a Zerg, since Hydra and Kane both beat him in qualifiers
Our Expectations for 2015: Wins one WCS, otherwise reaches Ro8 every season

(T)Xenocider
Qualifier Path: Picasso, (P)sWs, (Z)hendralisk, (T)DeeMo
Last Good Result: Winning IEF 2013
WCS 2014 History: S2 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 58% | vs 47% | vs 62%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Not Terran
Our Expectations for 2015: Might make Premier once, qualifies twice

(Z)Guitarcheese
Qualifier Path: (P)Perfect, CharSiuBao, (P)Trace, (Z)Suppy
Last Good Result: Reaching Premier last season
WCS 2014 History: S2 - Challenger, S3 - Ro32
Winrates: vs 77% | vs 47% | vs 55%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Protoss
Our Expectations for 2015: Mainstay in Challenger

(P)State
Qualifier Path: Gayguy, Playa, (Z)ViBE, (P)HuK
Last Good Result: Getting to play a game in Proleague
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 52% | vs 54% | vs 48%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: qxc, who he is 8-2 in matches against
Our Expectations for 2015: Qualifies for Premier once

(Z)Scarlett
Qualifier Path: Voltz, (P)PiLiPiLi, CNProtoss, (P)Trace
Last Good Result: Ro8 at WCS America
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Challenger, S3 - Ro8
Winrates: vs 65% | vs 57% | vs 60%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: A Protoss that refuses to do a 2 base all-in
Our Expectations for 2015: Makes a run to the Ro16 before losing to a Korean and retiring

(T)Semper
Qualifier Path: (T)DeeMo, (P)RotterdaM, (Z)WarreN, (P)sWs, (T)Drunkenboi
Last Good Result: Beating RotterdaM's proxy tempests in the qualifiers
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 56% | vs 63% | vs 55%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: The weakest player he can find
Our Expectations for 2015: We will probably never see him again

(Z)Suppy
Qualifier Path: CharSiuBao, Playa, Night, (Z)Goswser
Last Good Result: Ro8 at Redbull Atlanta
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 49% | vs 57% | vs 58%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Not Protoss
Our Expectations for 2015: Makes Challenger twice while studying for exams

(P)HuK
Qualifier Path: (Z)Silky, (T)nathanias, (Z)JonSnow, (T)Intense
Last Good Result: Ro8 at WCS America
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro16, S2 - Ro32, S3 - Ro8
Winrates: vs 60% | vs 52% | vs 59%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Suppy, who he is 19-7 against
Our Expectations for 2015: Causes drama on twitter, reaches Premier 9 times in a row without anyone noticing

WCS Latin America


(T)MajOr
Qualifier Path: MarinekinG, Sektor, (Z)Sheep, (Z)Cham
Last Good Result: 1st place at Copa America 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Ro32, S2 - Ro16, S3 - Ro16
Winrates: vs 69% | vs 57% | vs 67%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: JimRiSiNg, who he is 16-0 against
Our Expectations for 2015: 3 seasons of Premier League, at least 4 correct prophesies

(Z)JimRiSiNg
Qualifier Path: (T)Soldier, Alison, (Z)Shakti, (Z)ByRada
Last Good Result: 5th/6th at Copa America 2014
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 69% | vs 55% | vs 47%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: No protoss left, oops
Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe one Ro32 at best

(Z)CatZ
Qualifier Path: (P)Gosudark, Alison, (P)wiNgiAN, (Z)Cham
Last Good Result: 4th at Copa America 2014
WCS 2014 History: S1 - Challenger
Winrates: vs 55% | vs 40% | vs 54%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: JimRiSiNg, I guess
Our Expectations for 2015: One season will have 2 ROOT players in the Ro8

(T)Kelazhur
Qualifier Path: (P)XionS, eGGz, (P)AreS, (Z)Shakti
Last Good Result: None
WCS 2014 History: None
Winrates: vs 59% | vs 36% | vs 54%
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: CatZ
Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe one Ro32 at best

Writers: lichter, The_Templar.
Editors: lichter.
Graphics: v1.
Stats: Aligulac
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PtitDrogo
Profile Joined May 2011
France163 Posts
January 17 2015 06:14 GMT
#2
This is hilarious and depressing at the same time for me xD
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 17 2015 06:16 GMT
#3
On January 17 2015 15:14 PtitDrogo wrote:
This is hilarious and depressing at the same time for me xD

Hey, your path to qualification was harder than ForGG's! Don't be worried
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United States11403 Posts
January 17 2015 06:30 GMT
#4
Scarlett said on BaseTrade that her "retirement" is basically gonna be a wrist correction and she'll join the list of "coming back for LotV" pros (she seemed serious about it - more likely for her to come back than Grubby, IMO).

Astrea has a more notable result than that ZOTAC. He finished 2nd in the Twitch part of that Ender's Game thing about a year ago.

Shakti is a Protoss now. Probably a TLPD problem.

All in all, quite an impressive article, I enjoyed it a hell of a lot.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 17 2015 06:31 GMT
#5
Great article. And wow some European players have met often. And I hadn't realized but it doesn't surprise me how consistent Happy and HuK are. One nitpick I have is that in these predictions Challenger is packed, but Premier is barren. Unless the Chinese players crush everybody?
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 17 2015 06:33 GMT
#6
This isn't the prediction of who'll make Premier or do well in Premier btw. That'll come once we see Challenger matchups. This is just a rundown of everyone's stats heading into the season.
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United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 06:35:45
January 17 2015 06:35 GMT
#7
I like this. It really helps since I barely have time to follow the foreign scene anymore. :p

Don't know many of the good upcomers outside Korea.
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United States15275 Posts
January 17 2015 06:35 GMT
#8
Wow. You guys actually had the perseverance to finish this.
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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 17 2015 07:16 GMT
#9
Great job guys!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
January 17 2015 07:58 GMT
#10
surprised you didn't preemptively write one for Sen
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 17 2015 08:02 GMT
#11
On January 17 2015 16:58 chipmonklord17 wrote:
surprised you didn't preemptively write one for Sen

This is the "Best of the West" article. Hence, nothing on the other side of the Pacific.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 17 2015 08:02 GMT
#12
You expect so few from Lilbow? imo he's one the top Protoss along with Welmu now
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 17 2015 08:03 GMT
#13
On January 17 2015 17:02 OtherWorld wrote:
You expect so few from Lilbow? imo he's one the top Protoss along with Welmu now

Big mistake to not keep Puck in that conversation for foreigners, IMO.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Cheeseling
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine132 Posts
January 17 2015 08:06 GMT
#14
CatZ the MAN!!! I hope it will positively affect his attitude towards the game
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
January 17 2015 08:08 GMT
#15
Gogogogogogo Happy!!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
January 17 2015 08:33 GMT
#16
Stats courtesy of Aligulac
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 08:45 GMT
#17
On January 17 2015 15:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Wow. You guys actually had the perseverance to finish this.

I didn't even realise that this was in the pipeline o_O
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A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 08:52:04
January 17 2015 08:48 GMT
#18
what about sea players???? we getting an article??
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 17 2015 08:51 GMT
#19
On January 17 2015 17:03 Circumstance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:02 OtherWorld wrote:
You expect so few from Lilbow? imo he's one the top Protoss along with Welmu now

Big mistake to not keep Puck in that conversation for foreigners, IMO.

Tbh I don't follow the American scene that much, so I have no idea who's really good and who's just average-good among American players. So I'll believe you on that.
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BEARDiaguz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Australia2362 Posts
January 17 2015 08:53 GMT
#20
On January 17 2015 17:48 A_Scarecrow wrote:
what about sea players???? we getting an article??


We've already done our Challenger series. We in premier now, and I imagine me and PiG will get our write ups when our groups come up. You'll note they skipped China's finished Challenger as well.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 17 2015 09:15 GMT
#21
PsiOniC is really good, he's really strong during LAN : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Hf.lan_8
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
January 17 2015 09:16 GMT
#22
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 17 2015 09:32 GMT
#23
Btw do we know when will the EU matches take place?
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Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
January 17 2015 09:46 GMT
#24
According to this prediction only like 1 player reaches the Ro4 every season. Apparently even hydra will only reach Ro4 once, and polt stay in Ro8 other than maybe one victory. Who the hell is supposed to be in the Ro4 then?
NaNiwa <3
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 17 2015 10:17 GMT
#25
On January 17 2015 17:33 Grovbolle wrote:
Stats courtesy of Aligulac


are there even stats other than aligulac
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 17 2015 10:19 GMT
#26
On January 17 2015 18:46 Maegi wrote:
According to this prediction only like 1 player reaches the Ro4 every season. Apparently even hydra will only reach Ro4 once, and polt stay in Ro8 other than maybe one victory. Who the hell is supposed to be in the Ro4 then?


this isn't a preview or prediction article but just stats and some info. we don't know who will reach premier league yet so it's impossible to make predictions.
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
January 17 2015 10:27 GMT
#27
On January 17 2015 18:32 OtherWorld wrote:
Btw do we know when will the EU matches take place?

I'm pretty sure messioso is going to announce WCS CL matches and he'll release the schedule too.
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3811 Posts
January 17 2015 10:29 GMT
#28
On January 17 2015 19:17 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:33 Grovbolle wrote:
Stats courtesy of Aligulac


are there even stats other than aligulac

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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
January 17 2015 10:30 GMT
#29
On January 17 2015 19:19 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 18:46 Maegi wrote:
According to this prediction only like 1 player reaches the Ro4 every season. Apparently even hydra will only reach Ro4 once, and polt stay in Ro8 other than maybe one victory. Who the hell is supposed to be in the Ro4 then?


this isn't a preview or prediction article but just stats and some info. we don't know who will reach premier league yet so it's impossible to make predictions.

call rather top8 than ro8.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 10:39 GMT
#30
On January 17 2015 19:30 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 19:19 lichter wrote:
On January 17 2015 18:46 Maegi wrote:
According to this prediction only like 1 player reaches the Ro4 every season. Apparently even hydra will only reach Ro4 once, and polt stay in Ro8 other than maybe one victory. Who the hell is supposed to be in the Ro4 then?


this isn't a preview or prediction article but just stats and some info. we don't know who will reach premier league yet so it's impossible to make predictions.

call rather top8 than ro8.


That's what 'reaches the Ro8' means...
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
January 17 2015 10:44 GMT
#31
On January 17 2015 17:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:03 Circumstance wrote:
On January 17 2015 17:02 OtherWorld wrote:
You expect so few from Lilbow? imo he's one the top Protoss along with Welmu now

Big mistake to not keep Puck in that conversation for foreigners, IMO.

Tbh I don't follow the American scene that much, so I have no idea who's really good and who's just average-good among American players. So I'll believe you on that.


Lilbow is smashing a ton of high tier koreans in online tournaments lately. He beat True 3-2, Fantasy 2-1, Solar 2-0 and Hyun 4-1, to name a few.
In terms of recent results, I wouldn't be afraid to call him the #1 foreigner protoss.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 17 2015 10:49 GMT
#32
I have been so out of touch of the foreign scene. This WCS season is like a restart for me almost been to budy with koreans ^_^
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 17 2015 10:51 GMT
#33
On January 17 2015 19:27 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 18:32 OtherWorld wrote:
Btw do we know when will the EU matches take place?

I'm pretty sure messioso is going to announce WCS CL matches and he'll release the schedule too.

Ok, thanks
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 17 2015 10:56 GMT
#34
On January 17 2015 19:51 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 19:27 Aeromi wrote:
On January 17 2015 18:32 OtherWorld wrote:
Btw do we know when will the EU matches take place?

I'm pretty sure messioso is going to announce WCS CL matches and he'll release the schedule too.

Ok, thanks


Can't wait to see the draws!
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 17 2015 10:56 GMT
#35
On January 17 2015 18:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...


I agree with you. I much preferred the group stage.
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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 17 2015 10:58 GMT
#36
On January 17 2015 19:56 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 18:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...


I agree with you. I much preferred the group stage.


Same here. All that hard work in qualifier just to risk falling out because of one boX :-/
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 11:03:15
January 17 2015 11:02 GMT
#37
This is one sick article! (as always!)
So when do we begin : D ?
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CountZero71
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany89 Posts
January 17 2015 11:13 GMT
#38
Great article!
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A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
January 17 2015 11:13 GMT
#39
On January 17 2015 17:53 ROOTiaguz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:48 A_Scarecrow wrote:
what about sea players???? we getting an article??


We've already done our Challenger series. We in premier now, and I imagine me and PiG will get our write ups when our groups come up. You'll note they skipped China's finished Challenger as well.

oh i get it just be nice for a change for other countries to get write ups first
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
January 17 2015 12:15 GMT
#40
I didn't even know Naniwa came back
Someone call down the Thunder?
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 17 2015 12:22 GMT
#41
On January 17 2015 21:15 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I didn't even know Naniwa came back

Until he showed up in a qualifier and promptly made it in, I don't even think he knew he came back.
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 17 2015 12:25 GMT
#42
On January 17 2015 19:58 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 19:56 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 17 2015 18:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...


I agree with you. I much preferred the group stage.


Same here. All that hard work in qualifier just to risk falling out because of one boX :-/

Yeah I agree too, especially seeing some of the matchups we're going to get
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 12:29 GMT
#43
On January 17 2015 20:13 A_Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:53 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On January 17 2015 17:48 A_Scarecrow wrote:
what about sea players???? we getting an article??


We've already done our Challenger series. We in premier now, and I imagine me and PiG will get our write ups when our groups come up. You'll note they skipped China's finished Challenger as well.

oh i get it just be nice for a change for other countries to get write ups first

There was an SEA challenger preview article here
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SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 12:33:58
January 17 2015 12:33 GMT
#44
--- Nuked ---
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 17 2015 12:37 GMT
#45
On January 17 2015 21:33 SatedSC2 wrote:
If HuK reaches Premier one more time in-a-row then he gets a NesTea award?


oh fuck yeah. He even has one more in a row than TLO, because of GSL S1 2013 (WoL).
uThermal
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
January 17 2015 12:40 GMT
#46
After 5 seasons of WCS TL still thinks TvT is my best matchup, even though it has been by far my worst since start of 2014 cool thread though
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 17 2015 12:42 GMT
#47
Kas won EU8 There's more. Does that qualify as "Last Good Result"?
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
January 17 2015 12:47 GMT
#48
(P)NaNiwa
Last Good Result: Previously retired

LOL
I Protoss winner, could it be?
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
January 17 2015 13:11 GMT
#49
Really a hilarious thread. Can't stop laughing. XDDDD
Good job!
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 13:22:54
January 17 2015 13:20 GMT
#50
Nice article but quite unfair to the players, imo.
PtitDrogo and Majestic did actually qualify by beating infinitely superior opponents just by pure magic, apparently >_>
+ Show Spoiler +
except that TLO and Snute are supposed to be 100% premier material and Slivko/Dayshi/Nerchio aren't exactly free wins, more like the opposite <_<
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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 13:25:49
January 17 2015 13:24 GMT
#51
On January 17 2015 22:20 MavivaM wrote:
Nice article but quite unfair to the players, imo.
PtitDrogo and Majestic did actually qualify by beating infinitely superior opponents just by pure magic, apparently >_>
+ Show Spoiler +
except that TLO and Snute are supposed to be 100% premier material and Slivko/Dayshi/Nerchio aren't exactly free wins, more like the opposite <_<

yeah i agree. Usually i find TL preview/writing to be very funny (and lichter's especially) but it's the second time that i find it more mean than funny :-(
Edit: i should add that of course it's was still fine, thanks for the writing anyway
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SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France897 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 13:48:12
January 17 2015 13:48 GMT
#52
Ooooh man ! This was so funny to read! xD My greetings for the author! Cant wait for WCS to finally start! Finally We will see the best representative of each regions! :D
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
January 17 2015 13:52 GMT
#53
On January 17 2015 19:56 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 18:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...


I agree with you. I much preferred the group stage.

I miss the GSL's old Up and Down 7 man groups! THAT is how you should be seeding players into premier leauge
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 17 2015 14:01 GMT
#54
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 17 2015 14:02 GMT
#55
On January 17 2015 23:01 TheDwf wrote:
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players

As funny as it is... a normal user would probably get at least a warning if they posted that in a thread somewhere.
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2243 Posts
January 17 2015 14:14 GMT
#56
i think heromarine will do a lot better than most people think, kid's insanely good
Cogito, ergo Toss
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 17 2015 14:21 GMT
#57
Polt won't win a season
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 17 2015 14:26 GMT
#58
This is probably the easiest season for a foreigner to win WCS. Next season there will be at least Stardust and JD (?) and Heart will be qualifying through the Chinese qualifier since he's going to uni there now.
very illegal and very uncool
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 17 2015 14:27 GMT
#59
On January 17 2015 23:01 TheDwf wrote:
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players

It's a tongue-in-cheek article
very illegal and very uncool
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 14:48 GMT
#60
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


You don't get to be a 52 time WCS America champion without picking up WCS this year
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ChiefSC
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany29 Posts
January 17 2015 15:14 GMT
#61
Haha alot of people wanna play and beat bly thats funny! XD
will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
January 17 2015 16:02 GMT
#62
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


Do you smoke crack ?
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
January 17 2015 16:02 GMT
#63
Yeah groups instead of one (longer) series would be nice, but what can you do.

On January 17 2015 23:01 TheDwf wrote:
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players

I hope the French players will somehow manage after such horrible insults. Try to stay strong, guys.

I liked it though.
why even
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 17 2015 16:03 GMT
#64
On January 18 2015 01:02 will216 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


Do you smoke crack ?

He lost to Kane...
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 17 2015 16:24 GMT
#65
Happy
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Bly, who he is 79-44 against

What the hell ?
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
January 17 2015 16:58 GMT
#66
On January 18 2015 01:24 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
Happy
Who They'd Like to Face in Challenger: Bly, who he is 79-44 against

What the hell ?


Almost as good as the Nerchio GoOdy rivalry
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 17 2015 17:06 GMT
#67
On January 17 2015 21:47 Penev wrote:
(P)NaNiwa
Last Good Result: Previously retired

LOL

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Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
January 17 2015 17:17 GMT
#68
so when's the top 40 games of 2014 coming out TL? HMMMM?????
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 17 2015 17:18 GMT
#69
On January 18 2015 02:17 Redrot wrote:
so when's the top 40 games of 2014 coming out TL? HMMMM?????


shush we're on it V_V
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 18:40:07
January 17 2015 17:21 GMT
#70
On January 18 2015 02:17 Redrot wrote:
so when's the top 40 games of 2014 coming out TL? HMMMM?????

Soon™
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
January 17 2015 17:33 GMT
#71
i think MarineLord got undervalued here.

still a nice, somewhat sarcastic writeup
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 17:42:40
January 17 2015 17:42 GMT
#72
On January 18 2015 02:33 KalWarkov wrote:
i think MarineLord got undervalued here.

still a nice, somewhat sarcastic writeup

So are a lot of players I feel, it's almost like 3 players will reach the Ro16 every season. But yeah, saying that MlorD can feel lucky for reaching Challenger League even though he's one of the most solid foreign Terrans is disturbing. It's not like he had a hard time in the qualifiers.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 17 2015 17:49 GMT
#73
On January 18 2015 02:42 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 02:33 KalWarkov wrote:
i think MarineLord got undervalued here.

still a nice, somewhat sarcastic writeup

So are a lot of players I feel, it's almost like 3 players will reach the Ro16 every season. But yeah, saying that MlorD can feel lucky for reaching Challenger League even though he's one of the most solid foreign Terrans is disturbing. It's not like he had a hard time in the qualifiers.

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mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
January 17 2015 18:06 GMT
#74
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


I agree, he will win multiple
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 18:38 GMT
#75
On January 18 2015 02:21 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 02:17 Redrot wrote:
so when's the top 40 games of 2014 coming out TL? HMMMM?????

Soon

TM
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 18:41:58
January 17 2015 18:40 GMT
#76
On January 18 2015 03:06 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


I agree, he will win multiple


Pretty sure English is your mothertongue and not mine, but doesn't he need to win a season in order to win multiple?

Anyways, I agree with Shellshock on this one. :>
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
January 17 2015 18:53 GMT
#77
Wait, Naniwa is playing again?
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will216
Profile Joined August 2012
United States185 Posts
January 17 2015 18:53 GMT
#78
On January 18 2015 01:03 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 01:02 will216 wrote:
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


Do you smoke crack ?

He lost to Kane...


Oh, Because he lost to Kane in a Qualifier match? Please, That don't mean nothing, when the game is on the line. Polt always win. Did Polt win back to back WCS American championships? It would be wise not to bet against Polt.
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PekaVegan
Profile Joined July 2014
Ukraine2 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 19:01:24
January 17 2015 18:59 GMT
#79
[image loading]test
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sorry

User was warned for this post
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
January 17 2015 19:04 GMT
#80
On January 18 2015 02:18 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 02:17 Redrot wrote:
so when's the top 40 games of 2014 coming out TL? HMMMM?????


shush we're on it V_V


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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5596 Posts
January 17 2015 19:26 GMT
#81
On January 18 2015 03:53 Shinespark wrote:
Wait, Naniwa is playing again?

I, for one, welcome our new Swedish overlord.
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
January 17 2015 19:37 GMT
#82
Our Expectations for 2015: Causes drama on twitter, reaches Premier 9 times in a row without anyone noticing

I think this will also for the most part, go unnoticed.
Refer to my post.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16009 Posts
January 17 2015 19:48 GMT
#83
On January 18 2015 04:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
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On January 18 2015 02:18 lichter wrote:
On January 18 2015 02:17 Redrot wrote:
so when's the top 40 games of 2014 coming out TL? HMMMM?????


shush we're on it V_V


Life vs Taeja game of the year or we riot!


Polt vs HerO was better.
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 17 2015 20:09 GMT
#84
...so, do we know when the EU challenger matches will be drawn? And how? Are there any seeds or simply random?
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showBanquo
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden182 Posts
January 18 2015 00:50 GMT
#85
why are you hating on nani so much? he's still the best foreigner, noone showed anything to match him in 2014
Naniwa - king of the north
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28503 Posts
January 18 2015 01:56 GMT
#86
On January 18 2015 09:50 showBanquo wrote:
why are you hating on nani so much? he's still the best foreigner, noone showed anything to match him in 2014

There isn't any Nanihate at all? Trolling?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 18 2015 01:59 GMT
#87
On January 18 2015 01:02 will216 wrote:
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On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


Do you smoke crack ?


some people want to be cool contrarians
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 18 2015 03:31 GMT
#88
Hydra has this region of wcs on lock
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shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
January 18 2015 03:33 GMT
#89
all dat french racism in the op :o
RIP MKP
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 18 2015 08:54 GMT
#90
On January 18 2015 12:31 Shellshock wrote:
Hydra has this region of wcs on lock

Agreed. Hydra will be the first three-time WCS champion.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 19 2015 02:29 GMT
#91
Polt and Hydra will both win a season
mRpolite
Profile Joined March 2012
189 Posts
January 20 2015 10:52 GMT
#92
what's the schedule like?
AccoWand
Profile Joined November 2012
354 Posts
January 22 2015 09:48 GMT
#93
Nice stats. :D

First time in a long time i'm hyped for the EU WCS. Gonna be a nice season.
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