On October 26 2014 20:48 Kreb wrote: As much as I liked the guy, the tweets posted makes him look more like a butthurt 15yo than a grown up man. He isnt helping his cause.
upholding your standard of dignity would help him how?. what good would that do him?
Hes obviously looking for some reaction or backlash onto Dreamhack ("May it die an ignoble death"). If he wanted that to happen, explaining why sacking him calmly and collectedly was a bad choice and how much good hes done etc etc would maybe actually cause such a reacion or backlash. Now though....
"Why uphold standards of dignity?". Because they're standards of dignity. You, me, your friends and everyone else here uphold them 24/7 every day in just about every interaction between ourselves and others. We dont think about it, but we do.
On October 26 2014 22:04 plogamer wrote: Funny in a really really sad way.
@Saechiis
Completely unrelated you say?
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
Here is laidback but with less lame.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
whatever you say. though I am pretty sure you are in the minority here. by a lot.
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
whatever you say. though I am pretty sure you are in the minority here. by a lot.
What's your point? You think TL posters represent the majority of SC2 audience? It's my 2 cents, if you disagree, you can explain. If you don't care to explain, then don't insult people who post their thoughts and opinions.
he is acting like a kid now after being sacked.. probably he was sacked unfair, or not.. you know how ego and arrogance clashes after you have power.. but this scene perfectly explains that adults actuallly never grow up.
upholding your standard of dignity would help him how?. would you like him more?. what good would that do him?; but hey, as long as he fits your standards ...
I don't know, getting hired by other companies? He's not an idra who gets hired for his behaviour to expose stuff. As an employer you'd think twice to employ somebody who throws a tantrum if something doesn't go his way.
Am i the only one who cringed while reading his tweet about how he makes his own laws n stuff? That "rebelstuff" was cool when i was 15, nowadays it's so incredibly lame.
edit: and please don't compare DH with HSC. It's not even in the same world, in regards to "seriousness".
No, you're not the only one. But apparently the simple fact of being fired gives you the right to shit hard on your ex-company without shocking anyone, because for some people that's a normal and totally reasonable thing to do it seems Also concerning the champagne ceremony, don't let TaeJa's atrocious ceremonies overshadow the ones that were actually good (Solar/Sacsri iirc)
Compared to other tournaments I always thought the dreamhack broadcasting was terrible. They have 16 matches going on at the same time and they show 1, then they talk for 30 minutes and do a break for 30 minutes then they might show another game. It's so fucking boring. Maybe the new CEO can make the Broadcast better .
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
whatever you say. though I am pretty sure you are in the minority here. by a lot.
What's your point? You think TL posters represent the majority of SC2 audience? It's my 2 cents, if you disagree, you can explain. If you don't care to explain, then don't insult people who post their thoughts and opinions.
Yes. I am about 90% certain of that.
And you may explain why you think that opening a bottle of champagne is humiliating for the winner.
//edit: well not like "regular" posters. but at one point or another people interested in SC2 and the tournaments will voice their opinion on TL.
Why change something that's working so well. Why remove someone recognizable and a face that people connect with DH. And he was funny too, unlike other CEOs.
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
whatever you say. though I am pretty sure you are in the minority here. by a lot.
What's your point? You think TL posters represent the majority of SC2 audience? It's my 2 cents, if you disagree, you can explain. If you don't care to explain, then don't insult people who post their thoughts and opinions.
Yes. I am about 90% certain of that.
And you may explain why you think that opening a bottle of champagne is humiliating for the winner.
Feel free to explain how you came to that conclusion.
edit
Why remove someone recognizable and a face that people connect with DH. And he was funny too, unlike other CEOs.
To be totally honest, i didn't even know who that guy was until i read it here. I don't connect him with Dreamhack, at all.
On October 26 2014 22:48 LynxRage wrote: Compared to other tournaments I always thought the dreamhack broadcasting was terrible. They have 16 matches going on at the same time and they show 1, then they talk for 30 minutes and do a break for 30 minutes then they might show another game. It's so fucking boring. Maybe the new CEO can make the Broadcast better .
You weren't aware of the community streams? R1CH even made it possible to easily find any match you want to watch.. :-S
On October 26 2014 22:41 whereismymind wrote: he is acting like a kid now after being sacked.. probably he was sacked unfair, or not.. you know how ego and arrogance clashes after you have power.. but this scene perfectly explains that adults actuallly never grow up.
To be fair, few people would be in their right mind after being fired by their own company and life project.
On October 26 2014 22:41 whereismymind wrote: he is acting like a kid now after being sacked.. probably he was sacked unfair, or not.. you know how ego and arrogance clashes after you have power.. but this scene perfectly explains that adults actuallly never grow up.
To be fair, few people would be in their right mind after being fired by their own company and life project.
Depends. For that to be a decent argument, we'd need to know if he was sacked because DH is a greedy company and did him wrong, or if he got sacked because he fucked up.
upholding your standard of dignity would help him how?. would you like him more?. what good would that do him?; but hey, as long as he fits your standards ...
I don't know, getting hired by other companies? He's not an idra who gets hired for his behaviour to expose stuff. As an employer you'd think twice to employ somebody who throws a tantrum if something doesn't go his way.
Am i the only one who cringed while reading his tweet about how he makes his own laws n stuff? That "rebelstuff" was cool when i was 15, nowadays it's so incredibly lame.
edit: and please don't compare DH with HSC. It's not even in the same world, in regards to "seriousness".
No, you're not the only one. But apparently the simple fact of being fired gives you the right to shit hard on your ex-company without shocking anyone, because for some people that's a normal and totally reasonable thing to do it seems Also concerning the champagne ceremony, don't let TaeJa's atrocious ceremonies overshadow the ones that were actually good (Solar/Sacsri iirc)
On July 20 2014 09:01 Circumstance wrote: You're being too harsh on him.
Sacsri had never even been to Dreamhack before, much less won it, and he told Smix he hadn't even touched a bottle of champagne in his life before, yet he got the bottle open and spraying. That is bonjwa level of champagne mastery.
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
whatever you say. though I am pretty sure you are in the minority here. by a lot.
What's your point? You think TL posters represent the majority of SC2 audience? It's my 2 cents, if you disagree, you can explain. If you don't care to explain, then don't insult people who post their thoughts and opinions.
Yes. I am about 90% certain of that.
And you may explain why you think that opening a bottle of champagne is humiliating for the winner.
Way to twist words. Failing to open/handle a bottle of champagne in front of a live crowd and online audience. That's what's so cringe-worthy.
upholding your standard of dignity would help him how?. would you like him more?. what good would that do him?; but hey, as long as he fits your standards ...
I don't know, getting hired by other companies? He's not an idra who gets hired for his behaviour to expose stuff. As an employer you'd think twice to employ somebody who throws a tantrum if something doesn't go his way.
Am i the only one who cringed while reading his tweet about how he makes his own laws n stuff? That "rebelstuff" was cool when i was 15, nowadays it's so incredibly lame.
edit: and please don't compare DH with HSC. It's not even in the same world, in regards to "seriousness".
No, you're not the only one. But apparently the simple fact of being fired gives you the right to shit hard on your ex-company without shocking anyone, because for some people that's a normal and totally reasonable thing to do it seems Also concerning the champagne ceremony, don't let TaeJa's atrocious ceremonies overshadow the ones that were actually good (Solar/Sacsri iirc)
On July 20 2014 09:01 Circumstance wrote: You're being too harsh on him.
Sacsri had never even been to Dreamhack before, much less won it, and he told Smix he hadn't even touched a bottle of champagne in his life before, yet he got the bottle open and spraying. That is bonjwa level of champagne mastery.
And the whole premise of being fun and not too serious fits Homestory Cup better. And even they have better taste than that. But really, how does "not too serious" = "lame and awkward"? HSC is laid-back and their side-events and ceremonies are fit more closely with the normal curve.
I don't think that the champagne moment happened on purpose. Reducing Dreamhack to one moment is plain ignorant. There's so much work going on in the background at such kind of events which is done by several people. It's really hard to go for a black and white-ish "There's the point where someone fucked up".
And it is repeated again and again. All I'm saying is that they need to learn that the champagne ceremony doesn't fit the winners of DH.
Or at the least give finalists a rehearsal with cheaper sparkling wines or something, if they really have to insist on it.
lol. are you for real?
I can see that folks like yourself here really care about tournament organizers putting on a good show. No let's keep things mediocre instead. Because why so serious, amirite?
whatever you say. though I am pretty sure you are in the minority here. by a lot.
What's your point? You think TL posters represent the majority of SC2 audience? It's my 2 cents, if you disagree, you can explain. If you don't care to explain, then don't insult people who post their thoughts and opinions.
Yes. I am about 90% certain of that.
And you may explain why you think that opening a bottle of champagne is humiliating for the winner.
Way to twist words. Failing to open/handle a bottle of champagne in front of a live crowd and online audience. That's what's so cringe-worthy.
EPT
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