EPTNice article on Polt aka "Captain America". I like the fact that e-sports gets more coverage day by day. I didn't realize Polt that much annually. Awesome to read though cause he seems like a truly nice guy.
I make 6 figures a year playing video games [Polt]
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
Nice article on Polt aka "Captain America". I like the fact that e-sports gets more coverage day by day. I didn't realize Polt that much annually. Awesome to read though cause he seems like a truly nice guy. | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
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lopido
Canada245 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:16 Skynx wrote: need an article on $o$ "I made 6 figures in 25 minutes." | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:13 lopido wrote: Polt certainly made 6 figures money last year, but this year i really doubt it, unless he win the global finlas of course. You're only counting prize money, there's also the sponsor money Polt is a boss. His career has had ups and downs like all SC2 pros who've been playing for so long but go back and watch his games against MC (who was at the time #1 on the Korean ladder) from GSL Open Season 1 back in 2010. He destroyed MC using tactics that were unheard of at the time like base sniping, backstabs and pincer attacks. | ||
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EJK
United States1302 Posts
7000$ in 6 hours? or 100,000 in 25 mins.....HMM | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:24 Circumstance wrote: Not nearly as condescending an article as I was anticipating. Progress, I suppose. Polt is one of the nicest progamers; why would you think he'd be condescending? | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:47 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Polt is one of the nicest progamers; why would you think he'd be condescending? He's referring to "mainstream media" being condescending to e-sports. That's definitely still around though less common. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:49 Yakikorosu wrote: He's referring to "mainstream media" being condescending to e-sports. That's definitely still around though less common. oooooh gotcha  "Captain America is my favorite hero!" What a guy ^^ | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:02 Ctone23 wrote: CNN hype! polt such a boss I'd like to see him play vs that hacker, 4chan. | ||
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kaykoose
United States2302 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:55 Dodgin wrote: Polt is basically legend status in our scene now, it took a while but he made it. over 300k earnings, third place behind MC and Mvp. Officially more than Nestea? I know Nestea was third for a really long time and Polt was fourth, but Nestea hasn't won decent money in quite a while now so it was only a matter of time before Polt took third place in winnings. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 10 2014 12:35 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Officially more than Nestea? I know Nestea was third for a really long time and Polt was fourth, but Nestea hasn't won decent money in quite a while now so it was only a matter of time before Polt took third place in winnings. even MMA passed Nestea http://www.aligulac.com/earnings/ | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
Ah okay thanks! I couldn't find the original sc2earnings site ^^ | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
side note, it's funny to see taeja and hero so close in earnings. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
Over 200 players have made over $10K each, over 70 made over $50K so far, and 32 over $100K so far; deeper roster of high earners than I had originally thought! | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
There is always some dude that will mention WoW in the same breath as SC2, when we all know they are vastly different. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8224 Posts
That TvT.. It looks so similar to TvT in HOTS in terms of micro and macro army control by Polt. Yet at the same time, it's so different because today, Polt is so much more refined and experienced. So amazing. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44019 Posts
On October 10 2014 13:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: As much as I appreciate esports and SC2 gaining mainstream media attention, it still bothers me that the comments are still so misinformed. There is always some dude that will mention WoW in the same breath as SC2, when we all know they are vastly different. Yeah I like how he was talking about guilds that raid... in SC2. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
I am totally OK with that. Grinding gear or grinding build orders, pff, the same. It consumes the same time, you use the same means to achieve that and for most of the mankind it is a waste of time  I agree that the games are totally different, but in some way they are not. | ||
digmouse
China6327 Posts
On October 10 2014 15:59 deacon.frost wrote: Eh, what is the difference between a guild of x players(never played WoW, so I don't want to say 8 players when someone would argue to death that it is 128 players and I am noob etc.) and a team of x players focusing 2-4 hours every evening on the goal to get better in the game? The result is the same, you get better in the game. I am totally OK with that. Grinding gear or grinding build orders, pff, the same. It consumes the same time, you use the same means to achieve that and for most of the mankind it is a waste of time I agree that the games are totally different, but in some way they are not. WoW PvE's skill ceiling is not even close to a real competitive game like sc2, grinding in WoW for PvE is just a matter of time and high-tier raiding is all about trial & error, while in sc2 you need way more than that, I'd say the top of WoW's PvE content can be beaten by at least 80% of the population as long as they have time, but 95% of sc2's population won't be even close to what the progamer can do, you need talent and a way more strong mindset to do that. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51453 Posts
ranked number four in the game's global standings. This made me laugh a bit, the global standings eh, news to me we have those in Sc2  WCS is not a global ranking system, it is just a specific ranking system for something. It also if people do consider it that not very fair on those who play in Korea as we have all discussed. Anyway, nice read. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On October 10 2014 16:50 digmouse wrote: WoW PvE's skill ceiling is not even close to a real competitive game like sc2, grinding in WoW for PvE is just a matter of time and high-tier raiding is all about trial & error, while in sc2 you need way more than that, I'd say the top of WoW's PvE content can be beaten by at least 80% of the population as long as they have time, but 95% of sc2's population won't be even close to what the progamer can do, you need talent and a way more strong mindset to do that. Duh! Of course. I thought the comparison is on the "amateur" level, there's like a serious eSport thing about PvE? I was comparing amateurish teams in sc2 vs guilds in WoW. It's the same, the target is the same. Pro players are a whole different story, obviously You don't get payed from a company for playing PvE 10 hours/day (maybe streaming money...? maybe) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Dingodile
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On October 10 2014 12:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Yeah I noticed that too lol. Over 200 players have made over $10K each, over 70 made over $50K so far, and 32 over $100K so far; deeper roster of high earners than I had originally thought! Maybe Aligulac should put total time (as official progamer) too. 65k in 1 month is more interesting than someone made 70k in two years. #1 MC 50 483k (sc2 release until now are ~50 months) ... #8 Stephano 24 248k | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:24 Circumstance wrote: Not nearly as condescending an article as I was anticipating. Progress, I suppose. Same thing that I thought. I was expecting the usual "can you imagine there are people making more money than you simply out of playing video games??" | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24313 Posts
On October 10 2014 18:33 Shikyo wrote: Hm I wonder how much all those game experts with 1mil subs on youtube make per year. Being a progamer doesn't seem to be that profitable apart from the few very best. I consider them to be like musicians in that it's somewhat out of your hands how your material is received and if it catches on. Definitely a great gig if you get to that position, but I've seen a lot of great content from folk who are stuck on 50 subs. At least progaming success is correlative with being good at that specific game so I imagine that is something that appeals to those of a certain mentality. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24313 Posts
On October 10 2014 19:12 Dingodile wrote: Maybe Aligulac should put total time (as official progamer) too. 65k in 1 month is more interesting than someone made 70k in two years. #1 MC 50 483k (sc2 release until now are ~50 months) ... #8 Stephano 24 248k That would be a pretty neat filter to have for sure. We also have to consider how prize pools have changed over time and tournament density as well, gets complicated dagnabbit! | ||
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Penev
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MMA even passed Polt http://www.esportsearnings.com/games/151-starcraft-ii | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On October 10 2014 11:55 Dodgin wrote: Polt is basically legend status in our scene now, it took a while but he made it. over 300k earnings, third place behind MC and Mvp. Maybe in murica but not so much in yurop | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Nirel
Israel1526 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On October 10 2014 12:13 tshi wrote: I'd like to see him play vs that hacker, 4chan. What? I don't follow >.> | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
Awww I liked it when the legends from each 3 races, aka the big 3 of 2011 were #1, #2 and #3. But Polt and MMA were also big in 2011 so I'm happy its those guys that overtook NesTea. When $O$ does though, that'll be hard to stomach  he's barely been around for 2 years! | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
Pretty sure hes referring to this CNN video over the celeb leaks. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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mvdunecats
United States102 Posts
It's amazing to me some of the active players still below Puma on that list. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32739 Posts
On October 10 2014 22:45 IntoTheheart wrote: Does anyone know if Polt still has military service to do? I'm fairly certain Polt still has military service but he delayed it due to his studies. | ||
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jedi1982
United States172 Posts
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
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Deathstar
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1. There exists an esports industry 2. A lot of money is involved in it 3. Pro players have been acknowledged as athletes by the government It's not "hey kids you too can make a living if you play games!" | ||
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THELEHGOTERRAN
United States1837 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 10 2014 20:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: Maybe in murica but not so much in yurop I don't get this, Polt isn't a big name in EU because he doesn't play in WCS EU? He plays in tournaments that get more european viewers than WCS EU. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On October 10 2014 22:07 liberate71 wrote: Awww I liked it when the legends from each 3 races, aka the big 3 of 2011 were #1, #2 and #3. But Polt and MMA were also big in 2011 so I'm happy its those guys that overtook NesTea. When $O$ does though, that'll be hard to stomach he's barely been around for 2 years!Taeja T_T most premier wins and only #10. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 11 2014 08:53 royalroadweed wrote: Taeja T_T most premier wins and only #10. should have won bigger tournaments D: | ||
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Wuster
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On October 10 2014 18:33 Shikyo wrote: Hm I wonder how much all those game experts with 1mil subs on youtube make per year. Being a progamer doesn't seem to be that profitable apart from the few very best. I just saw a part-time youtuber put out a vlog where he showed his most recent month - 25k total views for $40 bucks. I think the scaling is not totally linear though and if you're been around with more views / history the ad placement is probably better. Oh and being a big youtuber means youtube partnership, which I believe gives you more of a revshare. But ya, I don't think those 1mil subbers are making a ton either. Here's the vlog if anyone's interested: Streaming seems to be more profitable as you are online for much longer at at time though (the obvious benefit of not making videos ahead of time but ad-hoc). Here's Destiny being quite open about the numbers he was getting ~3 years ago: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/218714-what-do-the-pros-earn-and-how?page=13#250 (Twitch.tv was spun out from Justin.tv, so I assume the price per ad is roughly the same, but Twitch has those subscriber buttons for big streamers to add more money into the mix too). | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On October 11 2014 08:42 Dodgin wrote: I don't get this, Polt isn't a big name in EU because he doesn't play in WCS EU? He plays in tournaments that get more european viewers than WCS EU. I don't get it either. Polt has been around since the 1st GSL, which is forever by sc2 standards. He won the GSL super tournament, became prime's optimus (MKP is probably still sour about that) and generally remained a fixture in code S even until the very end of wol. He made his name in GSL not wcs am. Saying europeans don't know polt is like saying americans don't know mma. | ||
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slytown
Korea (South)1411 Posts
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On October 10 2014 10:26 Yakikorosu wrote: You're only counting prize money, there's also the sponsor money Polt is a boss. His career has had ups and downs like all SC2 pros who've been playing for so long but go back and watch his games against MC (who was at the time #1 on the Korean ladder) from GSL Open Season 1 back in 2010. He destroyed MC using tactics that were unheard of at the time like base sniping, backstabs and pincer attacks. Polt is always such a pleasure to watch. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24313 Posts
Also I wish I could bring my metagame knowledge and travel back to that time, would be sick | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On October 11 2014 09:33 imrusty269 wrote: Polt is always such a pleasure to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQuLSCmg6Zk Nexus sniping since 2010. | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On October 10 2014 23:22 -Dustin- wrote: Pretty sure hes referring to this CNN video over the celeb leaks. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz5i171h_no LOL that video made my day. I also enjoyed during the piece about Polt when the narrator said the good ole cliche, "thousands watch him attendance, in addition to the millions around the world" hype | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On October 10 2014 18:21 deacon.frost wrote: Duh! Of course. I thought the comparison is on the "amateur" level, there's like a serious eSport thing about PvE? I was comparing amateurish teams in sc2 vs guilds in WoW. It's the same, the target is the same. Pro players are a whole different story, obviously You don't get payed from a company for playing PvE 10 hours/day (maybe streaming money...? maybe)Sure but the commenter was talking about the addictiveness of WoW and how SC2 is just as addictive, and how hundreds of lives was ruined because of WoW (which i truly believe because it fucked my life). I highly doubt even a hundred kids quit college because they were addicted to SC2 lol | ||
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My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
United States257 Posts
Also makes me wonder if there are any statistics on how much an average Kespa player makes. I'm talking about the ones that don't necessarily win tournaments to supplement their income. Players like Stats! or DRG or Stork or any Code A GSl players, or even Flash (although he did get a DH win finally) | ||
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My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
United States257 Posts
On October 11 2014 10:24 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Sure but the commenter was talking about the addictiveness of WoW and how SC2 is just as addictive, and how hundreds of lives was ruined because of WoW (which i truly believe because it fucked my life). I highly doubt even a hundred kids quit college because they were addicted to SC2 lol Also, in response to the quote above...addiction to WoW would point to other underlying personal/mental problems. IE. WoW itself, although addicting is not enough to explain your/their addiction. The addiction is a manifestation of another problem; a problem which is usually related to an escape from your/their own lives. Its like alcoholics. They didn't get addicted to alcohol solely because alcohol is addictive, they got addicted because alcohol gave them something their normal lives couldn't. Not saying I'm above this problem btw. | ||
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LarJarsE
United States1378 Posts
This article smashes that perspective all to hell. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On October 11 2014 12:11 My_Fake_Plastic_Luv wrote: Also, in response to the quote above...addiction to WoW would point to other underlying personal/mental problems. IE. WoW itself, although addicting is not enough to explain your/their addiction. The addiction is a manifestation of another problem; a problem which is usually related to an escape from your/their own lives. Its like alcoholics. They didn't get addicted to alcohol solely because alcohol is addictive, they got addicted because alcohol gave them something their normal lives couldn't. Not saying I'm above this problem btw. You are absolutely right about addiction. It usually becomes an addiction when someone uses it as an escape from reality. Of course the commenter on the article's site casually skips any other facts, and just focuses on WoW ruining lives, thus SC2 will also ruin lives. | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
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Random_0
United States1163 Posts
If he were the world Ping Pong champion, or the world Monopoly champion, nobody would blink an eye at saying he makes six figures. | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
On October 10 2014 15:59 deacon.frost wrote: Eh, what is the difference between a guild of x players(never played WoW, so I don't want to say 8 players when someone would argue to death that it is 128 players and I am noob etc.) and a team of x players focusing 2-4 hours every evening on the goal to get better in the game? The result is the same, you get better in the game. I am totally OK with that. Grinding gear or grinding build orders, pff, the same. It consumes the same time, you use the same means to achieve that and for most of the mankind it is a waste of time I agree that the games are totally different, but in some way they are not. It's nothing alike. Grinding games won't make you good and neither does raiding. Professional e-sports athletes spend 6-12 hours per day practicing. Not grinding games, but deliberately practicing to improve which is quite different. Anybody can raid once they learn how (and anybody can learn how), very few have the dedication, determination, talent and skill to become a pro gamer. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On October 11 2014 09:33 imrusty269 wrote: Polt is always such a pleasure to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQuLSCmg6Zk 2010.. That sure takes me back. It's funny to see how Polt's play style didn't change all that much but MC has grown into an entirely different beast. It's actually weird to see him play this passively. | ||
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