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On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote: And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)
and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...
I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol
Good luck with that... not one guy said anything that makes sense and makes it invalid... other than "derp derp, its kespa"
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On October 03 2014 22:02 genai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote: And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)
and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...
I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol Good luck with that... not one guy said anything that makes sense and makes it invalid... other than "derp derp, its kespa" How about Maru not only being the most consistent but also best terran performer in PL and GSL this year?
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its funny how a lot of players in the power rank arent attending blizzcon :D
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On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote: And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)
and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...
I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol Are you saying TaeJa's not a god? How dare you!
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Looking forward to seeing soO in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.
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On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY
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On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY Never saw that one coming.
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On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing soO in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. soO is going to win the GSL 4-3, but then flash is going to win in some insignificant minor tournament 4-2 over INnoVation, which will make TL go crazy that IT IS FINALLY HAPPENING!!!!!! (again) and flash will be #1 for *insert good reasons*.
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On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY
How are you even alive :D Have you already prepared enough sedatives?
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On October 03 2014 22:29 Ctesias wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY Never saw that one coming. 
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On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY How are you even alive :D Have you already prepared enough sedatives? Personally, I got a good night of sleep, I did most of my homework already, I have a relaxing day ahead of me. Gonna be fun.
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On October 03 2014 22:37 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY How are you even alive :D Have you already prepared enough sedatives? Personally, I got a good night of sleep, I did most of my homework already, I have a relaxing day ahead of me. Gonna be fun.
TaeJa isn't playing, so i'm not worried about you anyway. Poor GumBa though, if Bogus loses, all this work of recruiting people will be useless.
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On October 03 2014 22:43 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:37 The_Templar wrote:On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY How are you even alive :D Have you already prepared enough sedatives? Personally, I got a good night of sleep, I did most of my homework already, I have a relaxing day ahead of me. Gonna be fun. TaeJa isn't playing, so i'm not worried about you anyway. Poor GumBa though, if Bogus loses, all this work of recruiting people will be useless. I'm like a top 5 INnoVation fan. This definitely matters for me o.O
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SoO wins GSL and by doing so breaks the kong line giving him the confidence to also win Blizzcon after which he continues to reach back to back GSL finals but instead now wins them all so we can finally crown a SC2 bonjwa.
soOjwa
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On October 03 2014 22:05 GumBa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:02 genai wrote:On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote: And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)
and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...
I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol Good luck with that... not one guy said anything that makes sense and makes it invalid... other than "derp derp, its kespa" How about Maru not only being the most consistent but also best terran performer in PL and GSL this year?
So how about taeja not only being the most consistent terran in the whole world but also the best terran who won the most games and tournaments in the whole world... playing against same players that are in the final stages of gsl and among the best in PL every time... and he also did it while terran was severely underpowered! But because he didnt compete in gsl and pl, its all worthless... who cares that he won tournament(s) maru couldnt even qualify for... its more telling that he didnt qualify for 1 tournament he didnt even try to enter...
If i see maru play like taeja (you know, actual skill in game, not getting wins in "certain environment" that you value more than all other environments, no matter the actual skill), then ill gladly agree... so far what games ive seen from maru were mostly mediocre at best, with some good micro only
edit: and im more of a JD fan, and i dont think taeja is god or anything, he is just most skilled player in the world... as in pure skill! playing a lot of games in a day and adapting and outplaying all sorts of players and races without preparation! not the best in preparation type tournaments tho... and somewhat predictable, as he never cheeses and plays majority of his games same "straight up play" way... so he has some nemesis who beat him because of it, but i think its more proof of his skill, that he wins so much anyway (like beating zest in straight up play and even when he didnt even scout his allins, and still just outplayed him, causing zest to fall out of his comfort zone and start making mistakes, while taeja performed perfectly even in those situations)... or later in the finals those insane games against non harassed zerg, and not any zerg... one thats also in final stages of GSL every time... purely on his skill, control and micro alone! I have never seen anyone coming close to that kind of play... flash is more of a robot, playing solid and not doing anything extraordinary, just not making mistakes most of the time... but taeja... he does things that makes you go "wow... how the hell?"
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On October 03 2014 22:51 genai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:05 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:02 genai wrote:On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote: And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)
and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...
I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol Good luck with that... not one guy said anything that makes sense and makes it invalid... other than "derp derp, its kespa" How about Maru not only being the most consistent but also best terran performer in PL and GSL this year? So how about taeja not only being the most consistent terran in the whole world but also the best terran who won the most games and tournaments in the whole world... playing against same players that are in the final stages of gsl and among the best in PL every time... and he also did it while terran was severely underpowered! But because he didnt compete in gsl and pl, its all worthless... who cares that he won tournament(s) maru couldnt even qualify for... its more telling that he didnt qualify for 1 tournament he didnt even try to enter... If i see maru play like taeja (you know, actual skill in game, not getting wins in "certain environment" that you value more than all other environments, no matter the actual skill), then ill gladly agree... so far what games ive seen from maru were mostly mediocre at best, with some good micro only Some people value tournaments that require preparation more. What you're saying is totally true in the weekend-style tournament, which is played over a few days in an unfamiliar environment (TaeJa excels in this). He is not terribly difficult to prepare for in WCS-type matches though.
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On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO. It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that. Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.
Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)
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On October 03 2014 22:51 genai wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:05 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:02 genai wrote:On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote: And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)
and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...
I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol Good luck with that... not one guy said anything that makes sense and makes it invalid... other than "derp derp, its kespa" How about Maru not only being the most consistent but also best terran performer in PL and GSL this year? So how about taeja not only being the most consistent terran in the whole world but also the best terran who won the most games and tournaments in the whole world... playing against same players that are in the final stages of gsl and among the best in PL every time... and he also did it while terran was severely underpowered! But because he didnt compete in gsl and pl, its all worthless... who cares that he won tournament(s) maru couldnt even qualify for... its more telling that he didnt qualify for 1 tournament he didnt even try to enter... If i see maru play like taeja (you know, actual skill in game, not getting wins in "certain environment" that you value more than all other environments, no matter the actual skill), then ill gladly agree... so far what games ive seen from maru were mostly mediocre at best, with some good micro only edit: and im more of a JD fan, and i dont think taeja is god or anything, he is just most skilled player in the world... as in pure skill! playing a lot of games in a day and adapting and outplaying all sorts of players and races without preparation! not the best in preparation type tournaments tho... and somewhat predictable, as he never cheeses and plays majority of his games same "straight up play" way... so he has some nemesis who beat him because of it, but i think its more proof of his skill, that he wins so much anyway (like beating zest in straight up play and even when he didnt even scout his allins, and still just outplayed him, causing zest to fall out of his comfort zone and start making mistakes, while taeja performed perfectly even in those situations)
It was discussed thousands of times after those years. TaeJa has impeccable mechanics but lacks in preparation skill, because of it he shines in those weekend tournaments, regularly being top-4 or higher but his best GSL result is top-4 and it was achieved only once, not speaking about last 2 years, when best TaeJa's result in WCS Murica is top-4 as well, as well as at Global Finals.
But calling him way better than Maru, meh. Maru has sick mechanics and incredible preparations + he had best Proleague coach last year. And people need to finally realise that cheese is a part of game and if someone can't cheese well or react to it it's his problem.
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On October 03 2014 21:55 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 21:54 LeeJohnDong wrote: Best of the rest is outside korea only??? either way huk..? really? Yes and who would you put above HuK? What about Happy? Back-to-back ro8 in DH Moscow and WCS EU with higher winrates in both maps and series this month.
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On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote: Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world. FTFY How are you even alive :D Have you already prepared enough sedatives? It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end
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