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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 14:10:15
October 03 2014 14:09 GMT
#181
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
genai
Profile Joined July 2009
Croatia78 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 14:40:57
October 03 2014 14:10 GMT
#182
On October 03 2014 23:02 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
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On October 03 2014 22:51 genai wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:05 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:02 genai wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:01 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 21:56 genai wrote:
And what part of that streak came before terran got from worst race to best race? and then go look taeja score while terran was the worst race...and still he wasnt considered the best... and was in fact considered overrated even tho every tournament was either taeja or protoss winning, and if taeja wasnt there, it was 2-3 protoss in top 4... all those incredible the bestests couldnt get even close to anything... losing to weaker players while playing just flat out bad (and still considered best)

and have no idea how can anyone claim maru to be better than taeja, he is not even close in skill... im quite sure that maru would lose to both zest and solar in those games at shenzen... watched plenty of his games, and he is just not that good...


I am actually getting dumber reading what you write. Maru not even close in skill to Taeja lolololol


Good luck with that... not one guy said anything that makes sense and makes it invalid... other than "derp derp, its kespa"

How about Maru not only being the most consistent but also best terran performer in PL and GSL this year?


So how about taeja not only being the most consistent terran in the whole world but also the best terran who won the most games and tournaments in the whole world... playing against same players that are in the final stages of gsl and among the best in PL every time... and he also did it while terran was severely underpowered! But because he didnt compete in gsl and pl, its all worthless... who cares that he won tournament(s) maru couldnt even qualify for... its more telling that he didnt qualify for 1 tournament he didnt even try to enter...

If i see maru play like taeja (you know, actual skill in game, not getting wins in "certain environment" that you value more than all other environments, no matter the actual skill), then ill gladly agree... so far what games ive seen from maru were mostly mediocre at best, with some good micro only

edit: and im more of a JD fan, and i dont think taeja is god or anything, he is just most skilled player in the world... as in pure skill! playing a lot of games in a day and adapting and outplaying all sorts of players and races without preparation! not the best in preparation type tournaments tho... and somewhat predictable, as he never cheeses and plays majority of his games same "straight up play" way... so he has some nemesis who beat him because of it, but i think its more proof of his skill, that he wins so much anyway (like beating zest in straight up play and even when he didnt even scout his allins, and still just outplayed him, causing zest to fall out of his comfort zone and start making mistakes, while taeja performed perfectly even in those situations)


It was discussed thousands of times after those years.
TaeJa has impeccable mechanics but lacks in preparation skill, because of it he shines in those weekend tournaments, regularly being top-4 or higher.

But calling him way better than Maru, meh. Maru has sick mechanics and incredible preparations + he had best Proleague coach last year.
And people need to finally realise that cheese is a part of game and if someone can't cheese well or react to it it's his problem.


Yea, but preparation is not exactly "being better"... its like saying classic is better than zest, rain, sOs and the rest because he did nothing but prepare for GSL and won it once! Yet noone considered him best protoss even at that time...
For me, the better player is the one that actually plays better, reacts better, is no flustered when things dont go their way... something most playing in korea lack... as zest showed... when taeja defended something that he shouldnt be able to defend, he started tilting and falling apart... making mistake after mistake... and that happened in all 3 games... as they play like robots... prepared stuff and while its going according to the plan, all is well, they are flawless, as they practiced it 10000 times... but if someone changes the "rules" with crazy good plays and stuff... they cant adapt! they rely too much on preparation! something you practice so much it becomes automatic... and then someone forces you to change the way you do it... it becomes awkward and hard, you barely can do it anymore
Or when maru encountered guy that was better prepared, and still tried same build in each game and lost each game he did it(think it was against classic too)... he played just flat out bad... classic was well prepared for that style and maru had absolutely nothing else to pull out of his hat and just lost...fancy micro, but did nothing... he had that prepared and he tried going head first through the wall without adapting... think it was 3 rax build every game... even casters were like "he is sticking with it even tho its not working... wish he mixed it up a bit"

Guess that and this season that ive watched him has etched into my memory... as those plays were just avg terran with 1 build and some micro! even think only game he won was cheese if i remember correctly (or was it against jaedong on blizzcon... no idea anymore)

And all that while taeja was pulling crazy impossible holds, cloak ghosts, sniping every observer on the map, totally demolishing zest! and week later i see flash playing, and he plays with ghosts and no cloak for 10 minutes losing every damn ghost he has to feedbacks and losing the game... hell, noone in korea used widow mines before buff... yet taeja used them every game against zergs and using them great

Its those little things... that make me say that taeja is by far the best... whole kespa scene played one way, didnt do too good, and terrans were considered worst race while taeja played his own way destroying everyone!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#183
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

I quit sc2 for awhile after that game. The championship is INno's and no one elses
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 03 2014 14:12 GMT
#184
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

This is GumBa's entire filter in the LR thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 22:58 GumBa wrote:
Goooooo Innovation!!!!! Youve earned this victory now go get em!

Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 03 2014 14:14 GMT
#185
On October 03 2014 23:11 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

I quit sc2 for awhile after that game. The championship is INno's and no one elses


+ Show Spoiler +
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S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 03 2014 14:16 GMT
#186
On October 03 2014 23:12 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

This is GumBa's entire filter in the LR thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 22:58 GumBa wrote:
Goooooo Innovation!!!!! Youve earned this victory now go get em!


Was more of a lurker back then
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Khai
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia553 Posts
October 03 2014 14:44 GMT
#187
soO should be no.1 though... Poor soO even Kong in PR, better win GSL >< (sorry Inno)
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 03 2014 15:01 GMT
#188
On October 03 2014 23:16 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:12 The_Templar wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

This is GumBa's entire filter in the LR thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 22:58 GumBa wrote:
Goooooo Innovation!!!!! Youve earned this victory now go get em!


Was more of a lurker back then

Now you're even ahead of me in posts
The Bomber boy
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 03 2014 15:02 GMT
#189
On October 04 2014 00:01 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 23:16 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:12 The_Templar wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

This is GumBa's entire filter in the LR thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 22:58 GumBa wrote:
Goooooo Innovation!!!!! Youve earned this victory now go get em!


Was more of a lurker back then

Now you're even ahead of me in posts

Times change and passion wanes.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
October 03 2014 15:03 GMT
#190
On October 04 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:01 Wintex wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:16 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:12 The_Templar wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

This is GumBa's entire filter in the LR thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 22:58 GumBa wrote:
Goooooo Innovation!!!!! Youve earned this victory now go get em!


Was more of a lurker back then

Now you're even ahead of me in posts

Times change and passion wanes.

Strange how Wintex stopped posting so much right before Bomber actually got good again.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 03 2014 15:07 GMT
#191
On October 04 2014 00:03 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:02 GumBa wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:01 Wintex wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:16 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:12 The_Templar wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:09 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 23:07 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:33 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:27 GumBa wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:25 Ctesias wrote:
Looking forward to seeing INnoVation in first place on this list after winning GSL, and then being correctly regarded as the best player in the world.

FTFY


How are you even alive :D
Have you already prepared enough sedatives?

It doesnt matter if I live or die due to to much hype. As long as Lee Shin Hyung lifts the trophy at the end


Imagine yourself dying few moments after seeing this.
[image loading]

If you survived then, you will survive even after Eo Yun Soo hoists the trophey.
Lee Shin Hyung will wait until Proleague 2015 finals.

:>

This is GumBa's entire filter in the LR thread:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 27 2013 22:58 GumBa wrote:
Goooooo Innovation!!!!! Youve earned this victory now go get em!


Was more of a lurker back then

Now you're even ahead of me in posts

Times change and passion wanes.

Strange how Wintex stopped posting so much right before Bomber actually got good again.

Yeah weird
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
October 03 2014 15:23 GMT
#192
On October 03 2014 19:33 Hider wrote:
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On October 03 2014 19:30 Zealously wrote:
On October 03 2014 19:06 LoneYoShi wrote:
On October 03 2014 19:01 Zealously wrote:
On October 03 2014 18:31 Dingodile wrote:
How does "best of rest" work if we have a foreigner that is truly one of the 10 best players?


The player would be on both. I'll admit to thinking that's never realistically going to happen, however.


That doesn't make sense tho. How can he be part of "the rest" when he's already part of the power rank ?


It's a nicer way to say "Foreigner ranking"


Not very important, but I think most people initially think of "best of the rest" as the global top (incl. Koreans) outside of 10.


Not at all, I assumed it was a foreigner ranking the moment I read the title.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 15:40:56
October 03 2014 15:32 GMT
#193
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
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On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year, and most likely what put him on this Power Rank.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 03 2014 15:39 GMT
#194
soO ranked second. I see what you did there.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 03 2014 15:40 GMT
#195
On October 04 2014 00:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.


Totally unrelated to the discussion but... what's up with all your ktvindicare stuff and you got a Prime flair???
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 15:46:27
October 03 2014 15:45 GMT
#196
On October 04 2014 00:40 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.


Totally unrelated to the discussion but... what's up with all your ktvindicare stuff and you got a Prime flair???


KT refers to my home World of Warcraft realm, Kel'Thuzad which I've been on since 2004. It doesn't refer to KT Rolster.

I never followed the Korean scene closely in Starcraft until I came to Starcraft 2 (Ironic since now that's mostly what I care about), which was after I began using KT in my screen names.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 03 2014 15:54 GMT
#197
On October 04 2014 00:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:40 Silvana wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.


Totally unrelated to the discussion but... what's up with all your ktvindicare stuff and you got a Prime flair???


KT refers to my home World of Warcraft realm, Kel'Thuzad which I've been on since 2004. It doesn't refer to KT Rolster.

I never followed the Korean scene closely in Starcraft until I came to Starcraft 2 (Ironic since now that's mostly what I care about), which was after I began using KT in my screen names.


But didn't you have the KT flair in the past?? hmm?? traitor
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 16:01:48
October 03 2014 15:57 GMT
#198
On October 04 2014 00:54 Silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:40 Silvana wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.


Totally unrelated to the discussion but... what's up with all your ktvindicare stuff and you got a Prime flair???


KT refers to my home World of Warcraft realm, Kel'Thuzad which I've been on since 2004. It doesn't refer to KT Rolster.

I never followed the Korean scene closely in Starcraft until I came to Starcraft 2 (Ironic since now that's mostly what I care about), which was after I began using KT in my screen names.


But didn't you have the KT flair in the past?? hmm?? traitor


I've never had KT flair on TL.

I've alternated between IM flair and Prime flair since we've been able to use team flairs on TL.

My favorite KESPA team is actually Jin Air.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 03 2014 16:07 GMT
#199
On October 04 2014 00:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:54 Silvana wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:40 Silvana wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.


Totally unrelated to the discussion but... what's up with all your ktvindicare stuff and you got a Prime flair???


KT refers to my home World of Warcraft realm, Kel'Thuzad which I've been on since 2004. It doesn't refer to KT Rolster.

I never followed the Korean scene closely in Starcraft until I came to Starcraft 2 (Ironic since now that's mostly what I care about), which was after I began using KT in my screen names.


But didn't you have the KT flair in the past?? hmm?? traitor


I've never had KT flair on TL.

I've alternated between IM flair and Prime flair since we've been able to use team flairs on TL.

My favorite KESPA team is actually Jin Air.


I'm pretty sure it was you and now you're just trolling me.

/jk, it seems I mistake you for someone else, sorry ^^
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
October 03 2014 16:16 GMT
#200
On October 04 2014 00:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 00:54 Silvana wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:40 Silvana wrote:
On October 04 2014 00:32 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 22:59 Castative wrote:
On October 03 2014 17:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On October 03 2014 16:13 fingerwaggin wrote:
Huk? lolwat


I am a self admitted Huk hater, but he earned his spot IMO.

It could be said that his power rank position displays the utter weakness of the foreign scene at the moment, but I am not ready to admit that.

Huk simply has proven results lately, granted in large part through bracket luck but his position in the power rank has a lot of justification behind it.


Ehm Bracket luck ? Where would you say he got lucky with the brackets ? You could maybe argue that RedBull atlanta was not too hard of a tourney over all and that his WCS Ro16 group wasnt the hardest and his IEM Toronto Group stage was weaker overall than the other one, but still both his Ro16 group as Toronto bracket were incredibly stacked, ann even on the other had he got very unlucky for example at DH groupstage 3. A group with SoO,Classic and Leenock ? Looks much more like a GSL Ro16 group to me ( except HuK but thats the point ). Bottom line he was not particularly lucky i think. ( not so unlucky either ofc)


I was specifically referring to his Ro8 placing in WCS AM Season 3. Which is a much bigger accomplishment than any of his other tournament finishes this year.

Group C was by far the weakest in terms of a second place finish. After Bomber, the rest of the members IMO wouldn't have advanced out of any of the other groups.


Totally unrelated to the discussion but... what's up with all your ktvindicare stuff and you got a Prime flair???


KT refers to my home World of Warcraft realm, Kel'Thuzad which I've been on since 2004. It doesn't refer to KT Rolster.

I never followed the Korean scene closely in Starcraft until I came to Starcraft 2 (Ironic since now that's mostly what I care about), which was after I began using KT in my screen names.


But didn't you have the KT flair in the past?? hmm?? traitor


I've never had KT flair on TL.

I've alternated between IM flair and Prime flair since we've been able to use team flairs on TL.

My favorite KESPA team is actually Jin Air.

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