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On September 20 2014 21:23 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2014 18:53 thezanursic wrote:
I don't want to be an a-hole, but did she actually achieve anything outside that one all female tounament? she was clearly never on the team because she can compete at the highest level of starcraft so holding her to a standard on the basis of her "results" doesnt make a lot of sense. its like if rotterdam left root (actually idk if hes even still on root but you get my point) and people said "oh well he didnt achieve anything as a player so it doesnt matter"
Kind of a bad comparison, because rotti does so much casting, and aphrodite does none whatsoever.
She gave ST exposure through her personal sponsorships and their commercials, so that was the benefit. However, if they're focusing on proleague, she's useless to the team, and they could use that money to spend on a player who might actually benefit their current plans.
Gotta trim the fat.
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wanna see Liquid.Aphrodite
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On September 19 2014 02:57 Pandemona wrote:She lasted longed than her boyfriend  RainBOw did  The original Terran though <3
RainBOW was a badass.
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On September 20 2014 22:05 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2014 21:23 brickrd wrote:On September 20 2014 18:53 thezanursic wrote:
I don't want to be an a-hole, but did she actually achieve anything outside that one all female tounament? she was clearly never on the team because she can compete at the highest level of starcraft so holding her to a standard on the basis of her "results" doesnt make a lot of sense. its like if rotterdam left root (actually idk if hes even still on root but you get my point) and people said "oh well he didnt achieve anything as a player so it doesnt matter" Kind of a bad comparison, because rotti does so much casting, and aphrodite does none whatsoever. She gave ST exposure through her personal sponsorships and their commercials, so that was the benefit. However, if they're focusing on proleague, she's useless to the team, and they could use that money to spend on a player who might actually benefit their current plans. Gotta trim the fat.
the comparison isnt about casting, its about contributing to a team through means other than skill and results, which is a generality that includes casting... geez it wasnt that complicated of an analogy lol.
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On September 19 2014 02:02 GumBa wrote:
I reckon ST is trimming fat to get more player that would be useful in PL
You calling Aphrodite fat? Fight me irl!
I would love to see Squirtle, PartinG, Bomber and Life working together again but its unlikely, the dream would have been them and Aphrodite still on ST too....Oh well I will support them wherever they go.
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never got the impression that she was anything more than a "hobby" progamer...
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On September 21 2014 03:56 Gamegene wrote:
never got the impression that she was anything more than a "hobby" progamer...
At least, she's Masters in KR
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On September 22 2014 01:42 hansonslee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2014 03:56 Gamegene wrote:
never got the impression that she was anything more than a "hobby" progamer... At least, she's Masters in KR
Is that supposed to be an accomplishment?
Professional is a cheap title.
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On September 21 2014 01:47 bypLy wrote:
wanna see Liquid.Aphrodite
That would actually be an interesting experiment. Many of TL players weren't that good before joining TL, HerO was hardly known at all, Taeja was... well he was a very good terran but far from the stomping monster he is now. I'd be curious to see what Aphrodite could achieve in TL. Maybe she can become even good enough to actually compete in real SC2 tournaments.
Professional is a cheap title.
Professional is someone who lives out of it. If she is living out of playing StarCraft 2, she is a professional StarCraft 2 player. Normally professionals are better than amateurs because they put much more time into it, they can improve in a more suited environment, etc but that's not necessarily always the case. Especially in esports.
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On September 22 2014 02:41 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:42 hansonslee wrote:On September 21 2014 03:56 Gamegene wrote:
never got the impression that she was anything more than a "hobby" progamer... At least, she's Masters in KR Is that supposed to be an accomplishment? Professional is a cheap title.
Showmatch Aphrodite vs Gamegene?
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On September 22 2014 03:57 Sejanus wrote:That would actually be an interesting experiment. Many of TL players weren't that good before joining TL, HerO was hardly known at all, Taeja was... well he was a very good terran but far from the stomping monster he is now. I'd be curious to see what Aphrodite could achieve in TL. Maybe she can become even good enough to actually compete in real SC2 tournaments. Professional is someone who lives out of it. If she is living out of playing StarCraft 2, she is a professional StarCraft 2 player. Normally professionals are better than amateurs because they put much more time into it, they can improve in a more suited environment, etc but that's not necessarily always the case. Especially in esports.
With those pickups I thought it was known that HerO was very skilled and Taeja was already showing some serious chops in the ESV weeklies.
I'd actually love there to be a writeup one day about those two pickups. Pretty much the best Korean pickups ever. Skilled players getting exposure to tournaments and all the while improving with their time on the team .
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On September 22 2014 03:57 Sejanus wrote:That would actually be an interesting experiment. Many of TL players weren't that good before joining TL, HerO was hardly known at all, Taeja was... well he was a very good terran but far from the stomping monster he is now. I'd be curious to see what Aphrodite could achieve in TL. Maybe she can become even good enough to actually compete in real SC2 tournaments. Professional is someone who lives out of it. If she is living out of playing StarCraft 2, she is a professional StarCraft 2 player. Normally professionals are better than amateurs because they put much more time into it, they can improve in a more suited environment, etc but that's not necessarily always the case. Especially in esports.
If you translate literally 'professional' and 'gamer' and put together the two words then you're right, but it doesn't work like that. In reality, when people say ' professional starcraft 2 player' they mean someone who consistently participates in tournaments, earns enough money to (almost) make a living (as you said), and is skilled enough to compete with most of the other progamers. All 3 of these aspects are very important. That's why I wouldn't call Aphrodite a progamer.
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On September 22 2014 02:41 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 01:42 hansonslee wrote:On September 21 2014 03:56 Gamegene wrote:
never got the impression that she was anything more than a "hobby" progamer... At least, she's Masters in KR Is that supposed to be an accomplishment? Professional is a cheap title.
In professional baseball, extremely young players (high school, early college) get signed to teams all the time because the team has a sort of interest in them.
It's only fair she gets a chance at a team if they think she could improve and help the team if someone like Maru gets a chance because a team sees potential in him despite him being a kid at 13-14. He developed into a star, she got better but didn't develop into a GSL Code S player (winning a Zowie, good accomplishment, but not Proleague obv).
I simply don't think she put in the time to tighten her play to the level that some of the other top players do. Work ethic goes a long way, but I don't follow her practice regimine =)
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If you've been on a progaming team for years and have shown little sign of a breakthrough as a pro level player I very much doubt you're that way inclined. She may yet remain in the scene in a number of other capacities though
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On September 20 2014 21:23 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2014 18:53 thezanursic wrote:
I don't want to be an a-hole, but did she actually achieve anything outside that one all female tounament? she was clearly never on the team because she can compete at the highest level of starcraft so holding her to a standard on the basis of her "results" doesnt make a lot of sense. its like if rotterdam left root (actually idk if hes even still on root but you get my point) and people said "oh well he didnt achieve anything as a player so it doesnt matter"
then what was her role on startale then? Rotterdam is a caster, so of course we don't hold him to that. I never really fully understood what she does, if she's not a progamer.
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