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Code S - Flash falls to soO and DRG - Page 4

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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
September 07 2014 02:51 GMT
#61
On September 07 2014 11:27 Darkhorse wrote:
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On September 07 2014 10:58 Rollora wrote:
Being happy about fans of other players being sad sounds kinda stupid and childish to me

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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
September 07 2014 02:59 GMT
#62
On September 07 2014 11:17 Phredxor wrote:
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On September 07 2014 10:58 stuchiu wrote:
On September 07 2014 09:19 usethis2 wrote:
Geez. DRG did not go "Foreign Style ZvT" (apparently meant for his production of Swarm Hosts) Flash had one point majority of his army consisting of Thors and Hellbats, which made DRG believe Flash was switching to mech. That is why he produced Swarm Hosts. That was a misread by DRG, not him trying out a different style. (Nothing wrong with trying out different strats or Swarm Hosts, I just think that observation is wrong.)

If you watch the game you can see that he produced 12 Swarm Hosts in the mid game and never reproduced them again. He simply kept them alive for a long time.

Edit: I am talking about the game 1.


I'm not certain. We look at the way Flash has played TvZ in the last 2 weeks and we see mass bio with thor hellbat. Would DRG really think it was mech at that point despite having done enough scouting to know flash opens reaper first without scouting into cc on Merry Go Round? And doing multiple run-bys into Flash's natural and see bio units?

I don't think so. On top of that DRG is in contact with Catz as far as I know and does have a lot of respect for foreign players so he could have easily decided to pick this up and try it in g1.


Yeah I agree. That was just a standard game from FlaSh and i'm sure DRG knew it, he was just attempting the Snute style SH transition for whatever reason.

Mech seems to have pretty much died off again. Unless you're Bbyong trying it vs P.


I am fairly certain this was what had triggered SHs from DRG. Flash also had a foward factory producing Thors. There have been several games that Terran tech-switching Bio to Mech and vice versa in Proleague.


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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
940 Posts
September 07 2014 03:23 GMT
#63
On September 07 2014 11:10 Rollora wrote:
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On September 07 2014 11:06 Iodem wrote:
if Flash wins kespa cup is he guaranteed a spot at blizzcon or is it still uncertain?

still uncertain AFAIR, besides he won't win the KESPA cup.

Time traveller.
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Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 03:58:08
September 07 2014 03:50 GMT
#64
On September 07 2014 11:51 Shellshock wrote:
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On September 07 2014 11:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 07 2014 10:58 Rollora wrote:
Being happy about fans of other players being sad sounds kinda stupid and childish to me

Welcome to esports

welcome to everything

so practically everything where infantile minds are allowed to speak
Thank god I am teaching in a school for "more then average" intelligent kids, where I haven't seen such a behavior yet.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 07 2014 04:01 GMT
#65
Clide did actually make the ro8 once, just saying.


Cliide>>>>Flash
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 07 2014 04:07 GMT
#66
I am happy for soOjwa (srsly so fucking good) and DongRaeGu finally starting to get back to the top! (Makes me sad he doesnt want to play in PL anymore ) but dammit Flash this was THE group to do it and you still fell short
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13989 Posts
September 07 2014 04:24 GMT
#67
On September 07 2014 09:15 bo1b wrote:
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On September 07 2014 07:39 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
If you're losing to DRG, you're not a worthy champion anyway. Let's hope Flash gets his shit together and stops losing to dishwashers.

+ Show Spoiler +





drg isn't good at tvz guys.

Remember round 2 of proleague where he shit on terran as well? That was pretty cool imo

I fondly remember that day, DRG crushed Gumiho 2-0 as well but those games vs Inno were beautiful
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
September 07 2014 04:39 GMT
#68
On September 07 2014 13:01 AxionSteel wrote:
Clide did actually make the ro8 once, just saying.


Cliide>>>>Flash


Fun fact: Both Flash in this season and Clide in that season only played 1 matchup their whole way through.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 07 2014 04:42 GMT
#69
On September 07 2014 12:50 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 11:51 Shellshock wrote:
On September 07 2014 11:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 07 2014 10:58 Rollora wrote:
Being happy about fans of other players being sad sounds kinda stupid and childish to me

Welcome to esports

welcome to everything

so practically everything where infantile minds are allowed to speak
Thank god I am teaching in a school for "more then average" intelligent kids, where I haven't seen such a behavior yet.


You will.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 07 2014 06:27 GMT
#70
Every time Flash makes it into the round of 16 I'm like yes, this will be the season, and subscribe. Then he gets knocked out and I feel like I've wasted $20. And all because there was one small gap in his buildings...
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
September 07 2014 06:34 GMT
#71
Flash second coming of Cliiiide confirmed.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 07 2014 07:00 GMT
#72
On September 07 2014 07:09 Kasaraki wrote:
That game 2 was awesome, DRG played Flash like a fiddle. I love how he identified the poor simcity, waited for the perfect opportunity and then knew exactly how Flash would react. It's fun to have such a chain of events unfold where one player has planned so many moves ahead of the other.

You've gotta be kidding me. DRG is a terrible fiddler. He was the one getting played. Lost 4 overlords early, had his creep spread completely shut down and just got lucky that Flash misplaced his CC by a hex and won off that advantage (despite shit play vs mines).
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 07 2014 07:12 GMT
#73
On September 07 2014 07:09 Kasaraki wrote:
Flash with that Clide curse. May it last forever.

That game 2 was awesome, DRG played Flash like a fiddle. I love how he identified the poor simcity, waited for the perfect opportunity and then knew exactly how Flash would react. It's fun to have such a chain of events unfold where one player has planned so many moves ahead of the other.


If by "played Flash like a fiddle" you mean "was getting completely wrecked and was extremely lucky that Flash made such a huge mistake," then sure.
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Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
September 07 2014 07:16 GMT
#74
On September 07 2014 15:27 GolemMadness wrote:
Every time Flash makes it into the round of 16 I'm like yes, this will be the season, and subscribe. Then he gets knocked out and I feel like I've wasted $20. And all because there was one small gap in his buildings...

Same there :/
Hopefully Cure or Bogus ends up in finals, or even semis.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
September 07 2014 07:21 GMT
#75
On September 07 2014 11:51 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 11:27 Darkhorse wrote:
On September 07 2014 10:58 Rollora wrote:
Being happy about fans of other players being sad sounds kinda stupid and childish to me

Welcome to esports

welcome to everything

DAE it's David Kim's fault???
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 07 2014 07:49 GMT
#76
Don't worry we still have INnovation, the robot of the people!
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
September 07 2014 07:50 GMT
#77
I want drg to beat innovation, but I think innovation vs soo is the best possible finals we can have. Such a conundrum.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
September 07 2014 08:09 GMT
#78
On September 07 2014 11:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
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On September 07 2014 08:20 Xoronius wrote:
On September 07 2014 07:39 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
If you're losing to DRG, you're not a worthy champion anyway. Let's hope Flash gets his shit together and stops losing to dishwashers.

This is probably just a sad attempt to troll, but just in case, you are actually serious.
DRG has a winning record vs Innovation (who is in the ro8). DRG eliminated Solar from RBBG Global. Solar is also in the GSL ro8. DRG just knocked out last seasons semi-finlaist TRUE and IEM champion Flash.

If you seriously think, DRG is a Dishwasher, you are incredibly uneducated about the game.

DRG one of the absolute best at Starcraft in history, up there with old 3 of wings Polt Taeja MMA Life Stephano

Don't tell me, I am a supporter of the one true dong. I was just preventing dumb "everything more than 4 months old doesn't count" arguemnts by using recent results.

On September 07 2014 16:50 bo1b wrote:
I want drg to beat innovation, but I think innovation vs soo is the best possible finals we can have. Such a conundrum.

I think an OSL finals rematch would be pretty nice as well. Not only would it give DRG a chance of revenge, but it also severely improves Rains chances to go to Blizzcon.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 08:30:58
September 07 2014 08:29 GMT
#79
On September 07 2014 16:12 GolemMadness wrote:
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On September 07 2014 07:09 Kasaraki wrote:
Flash with that Clide curse. May it last forever.

That game 2 was awesome, DRG played Flash like a fiddle. I love how he identified the poor simcity, waited for the perfect opportunity and then knew exactly how Flash would react. It's fun to have such a chain of events unfold where one player has planned so many moves ahead of the other.


If by "played Flash like a fiddle" you mean "was getting completely wrecked and was extremely lucky that Flash made such a huge mistake," then sure.


Both of these are exaggerations. I think DRG either noticed the bad sim at the last minute, or was just waiting to do a standard run-by.

On the flip side, I wouldn't say DRG was getting wrecked at all. Flash reduced the creep and got some overlords off the back of a more aggressive opening, but he really wasn't putting a dent in DRG. His 3rd orbital was just morphing while DRG had a saturated 3rd, was way ahead on 1/1, had a spire and bane nest morphing, and retained 4 additional queens for defense and creep. I'd say DRG was ahead even. In addition, he lost all the hellions and even the medivac full of marines while DRG was doing a counter attack with all of his lings for a mere 11 drones or so.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
September 07 2014 08:33 GMT
#80
Yeah DRG was perfectly fine in game 2. That kind of harass is nice and all, but is far from game ending. Happens very regularly in early game TvZ.

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