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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 01:56 GMT
#161
Well at least I wont ever have to pay attention to WCS NA or EU again.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2014 01:56 GMT
#162
On September 05 2014 10:55 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:52 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:52 Plansix wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:49 lichter wrote:
the worst part about region lock is how the crap am i supposed to find writers for NA if all the koreans leave

Trying to hype up NA and EU players on this site is sort of a lost cause.


the sen and bunny articles were 2 of the most viewed (like both top 5) articles of the tear, surprisingly


cause they beat koreans.


I could hype Bunny vs Snute WCS EU finals
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 02:00:05
September 05 2014 01:57 GMT
#163
Disregard please, I just saw the news at the top of my screen regarding CN TW and SEA.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 01:57 GMT
#164
On September 05 2014 10:57 BreAKerTV wrote:
What about the guys from SEA, China, and Taiwan?


Look up
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
September 05 2014 01:58 GMT
#165
On September 05 2014 10:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:49 Tanzklaue wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:48 Xinzoe wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:47 shockaslim wrote:
Why don't they change the name from WCS NA to some other name since there are more non American countries represented than there are North American?


WCS International?

WCS free money for polt


Hyun Fight Club WCS POLT

Have to reuse this quote again, "I'm not locked in here with you... you're locked in here with me!" - Poltschach
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
September 05 2014 01:58 GMT
#166
On September 05 2014 10:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On September 05 2014 10:35 AWalker9 wrote:


Me and TB share thoughts on this. This is pretty much all bad for Koreans and all good for foreigners but we'll see the skill gap widen as we now have welfare tournaments.


I agree it's really sad. I just hope we get to see another individual league in Korea or we go back 2012 with 5 GSL's.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
September 05 2014 01:58 GMT
#167
On September 05 2014 10:57 BreAKerTV wrote:
What about the guys from SEA, China, and Taiwan?

Top of thread.
Rain | herO | sOs | Dear | Neeb | ByuN | INnoVation | Dream | ForGG | Maru | ByuL | Golden | Solar | Soulkey | Scarlett!!!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 01:58 GMT
#168
On September 05 2014 10:56 stuchiu wrote:
Well at least I wont ever have to pay attention to WCS NA or EU again.

Think of all the time you will save yourself and all the peasants you will get to mock for watching it. Its all wins all around for you.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
September 05 2014 01:59 GMT
#169
neither good nor bad, we've argued the merits and drawbacks of this for so long that we all pretty much know the immediate effects

the big question is how will the scene respond? more non-WCS competitions to accomodate korean players? better competitive environments in NA/EU? it's all going to come down to execution
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 01:59 GMT
#170
On September 05 2014 10:56 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:55 stuchiu wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:52 lichter wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:52 Plansix wrote:
On September 05 2014 10:49 lichter wrote:
the worst part about region lock is how the crap am i supposed to find writers for NA if all the koreans leave

Trying to hype up NA and EU players on this site is sort of a lost cause.


the sen and bunny articles were 2 of the most viewed (like both top 5) articles of the tear, surprisingly


cause they beat koreans.


I could hype Bunny vs Snute WCS EU finals


the real test to be a writer is to see if you can hype up Bly vs Namshar or Gemini vs Believe.
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Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 02:01:08
September 05 2014 02:00 GMT
#171
What is to stop koreans from getting a residency visa for NA countries not being USA/Canada (think mexico/colombia but more likely, Taiwan/Singapore/Malaysia) and take NA spots that way?

Also WCS EU will still be incredibly stacked with MC, First, Yoda, Jjakji, Stardust, Patience, Golden, ForGG and HYUN all living in europe under visa's that would allow them to participate.
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
September 05 2014 02:00 GMT
#172
On September 05 2014 10:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:35 AWalker9 wrote:
https://twitter.com/totalbiscuit/status/507702369304719360


Me and TB share thoughts on this. This is pretty much all bad for Koreans and all good for foreigners but we'll see the skill gap widen as we now have welfare tournaments.


Agreed totally with TB. Damn, he basically said what I was fearing.

I wonder if this is gonna really increase the interest in Starcraft in NA and EU because they're taking a huge risk with this screw-the-koreans move IMO.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
September 05 2014 02:01 GMT
#173
On September 05 2014 11:00 Wroshe wrote:
What is to stop koreans from getting a residency visa for NA countries not being USA/Canada (think mexico/colombia but more likely, Taiwan/Singapore/Malaysia) and take NA spots that way?

Also WCS EU will still be incredibly stacked with MC, First, Yoda, Jjakji, Stardust, Patience, Golden, ForGG and HYUN all living in europe under visa's that would allow them to participate.

good point
"Expert" mods4ever.com
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
September 05 2014 02:01 GMT
#174
Wow, lame. Nothing will be fun to watch anymore except GSL again
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 02:02:36
September 05 2014 02:02 GMT
#175
On September 05 2014 11:00 Wroshe wrote:
What is to stop koreans from getting a residency visa for NA countries not being USA/Canada (think mexico/colombia but more likely, Taiwan/Singapore/Malaysia) and take NA spots that way?

Also WCS EU will still be incredibly stacked with MC, First, Yoda, Jjakji, Stardust, Patience, Golden, ForGG and HYUN all living in europe under visa's that would allow them to participate.

I think you under estimate how hard it is to get permanent residence in another country. Especially the cost of doing so for the hope of winning prize money.

EU will still be stacked.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 05 2014 02:02 GMT
#176
On September 05 2014 11:00 Wroshe wrote:
What is to stop koreans from getting a residency visa for NA countries not being USA/Canada (think mexico/colombia but more likely, Taiwan/Singapore/Malaysia) and take NA spots that way?

Also WCS EU will still be incredibly stacked with MC, First, Yoda, Jjakji, Stardust, Patience, Golden, ForGG and HYUN all living in europe under visa's that would allow them to participate.


NA is hell to get a visa. I guess they can try to work around it and get a visa in China/Tw/Sea/Mx/Canada though and see if Blizzard lets them.
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Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 02:03:30
September 05 2014 02:03 GMT
#177
I'm really looking forward to watching a WCS NA with a lot of North Americans in it to be honest. Hopefully they can at the very least increase the payout in WCS KR though (and not the "add it all to the top" shit that GOM did).
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
September 05 2014 02:04 GMT
#178
On September 05 2014 10:45 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 10:43 Crot4le wrote:
I though the format worked well this year. I was hoping they'd keep it the same for 2015 but reintroduce the Season Finals which were incredibly hype.


More than that, there was absolutely no whine about the system this year. Actually, the whine that happened was that blizzcon wouldn't be competitive enough because of the people scoring points in WCS EU and America. This will be even "worse" (if you thought that was a bad thing) next year.

Problem with Blizzcon is that it rewards players who get flown out the most while the more deserving players get shafted because they got no points. Aka, most of the Koreans playing in GSL and Proleague.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
September 05 2014 02:05 GMT
#179
On September 05 2014 11:02 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:00 Wroshe wrote:
What is to stop koreans from getting a residency visa for NA countries not being USA/Canada (think mexico/colombia but more likely, Taiwan/Singapore/Malaysia) and take NA spots that way?

Also WCS EU will still be incredibly stacked with MC, First, Yoda, Jjakji, Stardust, Patience, Golden, ForGG and HYUN all living in europe under visa's that would allow them to participate.


NA is hell to get a visa. I guess they can try to work around it and get a visa in China/Tw/Sea/Mx/Canada though and see if Blizzard lets them.

I very well realise that getting a visa for Canada or the USA is incredibly hard. I however very much doubt that it would be as hard to get a visa for countries like Peru, Belize or Jamaica.

Also there is currently a lucrative sounding loophole around which would involve getting a visa for Taiwan, play in all the local TeSL tournaments and take a spot in the Taiwanese qualifier for WCS NA.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 05 2014 02:05 GMT
#180
On September 05 2014 11:01 CakeSauc3 wrote:
Wow, lame. Nothing will be fun to watch anymore except GSL again


There's always Pro League, that's what's keeping SC2 in Korea alive anyway. Without Kespa and PL the Korean scene would be pretty dead right about now.
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