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On September 06 2014 20:29 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 20:27 Incognoto wrote:On September 06 2014 15:06 dyDrawer wrote:
WCS Reset: I don't think resetting GSL is a good idea. Blizzard should learn its lesson: DON'T TAMPER WITH GSL. It's not broken, don't fix it.
Full region lock: it's a little more extreme than I had thought but I think it's a fair way of going about things.
Of course this might spell disaster for any Korean that's not in KeSPA, but frankly I think I'd rather like to see players who can consistently do well in GSL at Blizzcon. I've been curious about this by the way. GSL isn't really a WCS event is it? It's a tournament that offers WCS points, so the WCS reset doesn't affect the GSL, does it? You can still drop from Code S to out of the GSL in one season either way, as far as I know? According to Liquipedia: Show nested quote +The 2014 Global StarCraft II League Season 3 is the Korean event of the third season of the 2014 WCS I think in the eyes of Blizzard, GSL is still a WCS event. I'm pretty sure that if the reset goes through in America and Europe, it will go through in Korea as well.
So next season of GSL would be an open? That's just another change I disagree with, I guess. I mean, staying in Code S is already difficult enough and the Bo1 / Bo3 format means that sometimes even established players can lose to flukes.
Especially since this GSL has been the most stacked GSL ever. Code S really, truly means Code S. Why reset it? Oh Blizzard..
I'm too worn out to whine about it, I guess. The reset hasn't taken place yet, I'm sure that Gom will defend their GSL.
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On September 06 2014 20:33 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 20:29 Zealously wrote:On September 06 2014 20:27 Incognoto wrote:On September 06 2014 15:06 dyDrawer wrote:
WCS Reset: I don't think resetting GSL is a good idea. Blizzard should learn its lesson: DON'T TAMPER WITH GSL. It's not broken, don't fix it.
Full region lock: it's a little more extreme than I had thought but I think it's a fair way of going about things.
Of course this might spell disaster for any Korean that's not in KeSPA, but frankly I think I'd rather like to see players who can consistently do well in GSL at Blizzcon. I've been curious about this by the way. GSL isn't really a WCS event is it? It's a tournament that offers WCS points, so the WCS reset doesn't affect the GSL, does it? You can still drop from Code S to out of the GSL in one season either way, as far as I know? According to Liquipedia: The 2014 Global StarCraft II League Season 3 is the Korean event of the third season of the 2014 WCS I think in the eyes of Blizzard, GSL is still a WCS event. I'm pretty sure that if the reset goes through in America and Europe, it will go through in Korea as well. So next season of GSL would be an open? That's just another change I disagree with, I guess. I mean, staying in Code S is already difficult enough and the Bo1 / Bo3 format means that sometimes even established players can lose to flukes. Especially since this GSL has been the most stacked GSL ever. Code S really, truly means Code S. Why reset it? Oh Blizzard.. I'm too worn out to whine about it, I guess. The reset hasn't taken place yet, I'm sure that Gom will defend their GSL.
I'm pretty sure that KeSPA will also work to protect their players.
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Highly unfair on DRG too, he has the longest Code S streak and made it to Ro8 meaning he would usually be in next code S. Now suddenly he has to re-qualify? Its kinda bullshit.
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Why would they reset code s?
All the players who come back have the chance to go through the qualifiers and code a regardless, no?
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I don't think the GSL will be reset.
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On September 06 2014 22:00 Boucot wrote:
I don't think the GSL will be reset.
Yeah I think Korea will just do it their own way. If they don't want it to be reset I doubt it would be worth it for Blizz to try kick up a fuss.
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On September 06 2014 21:53 Aeceus wrote:
Highly unfair on DRG too, he has the longest Code S streak and made it to Ro8 meaning he would usually be in next code S. Now suddenly he has to re-qualify? Its kinda bullshit.
any time major changes are made they will naturally benefit some more than others, unavoidable
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Non-biased polls that only show results after voting!?
When did this come in to effect?
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Let's prepare guys. A lot of korean are going to retire
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On September 06 2014 22:30 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 21:53 Aeceus wrote:
Highly unfair on DRG too, he has the longest Code S streak and made it to Ro8 meaning he would usually be in next code S. Now suddenly he has to re-qualify? Its kinda bullshit. any time major changes are made they will naturally benefit some more than others, unavoidable
tbh its a bullshit change and GSL has been like this for a long while. The top 8 should keep their place, its not like we are starting fresh with a new expansion.
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On September 06 2014 21:53 Aeceus wrote:
Highly unfair on DRG too, he has the longest Code S streak and made it to Ro8 meaning he would usually be in next code S. Now suddenly he has to re-qualify? Its kinda bullshit.
Fairness is not really something taken into account with these changes.
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On September 06 2014 23:01 gruff wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 21:53 Aeceus wrote:
Highly unfair on DRG too, he has the longest Code S streak and made it to Ro8 meaning he would usually be in next code S. Now suddenly he has to re-qualify? Its kinda bullshit. Fairness is not really something taken into account with these changes.
Okay why change the status quo and mess up storylines like this when it isn't needed? why do all spots need to be up for qualification? they don't.
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On September 06 2014 22:34 Deleuze wrote:
Non-biased polls that only show results after voting!?
When did this come in to effect?
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Honestly I agree they shouldn't mess with the seeds. The first time my interest in sc2 esports took a big hit was when blizzard forced the wcs format onto everyone and I lost track of everything that was going on. Its really not in their best interest to keep knocking players down once they've become stars....
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On September 06 2014 21:53 Aeceus wrote:
Highly unfair on DRG too, he has the longest Code S streak and made it to Ro8 meaning he would usually be in next code S. Now suddenly he has to re-qualify? Its kinda bullshit.
Holy fucking shit this is very unfortunately true, but to my memory this is first ro8 for DRG since seed won gsl so he should make it back okay
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Yeah I asked like 30 pages ago why they need to reset GSL but I'm not convinced. I think someone said something along the lines of "reset is needed to give the returning players a shot on WCS KR... it's more fair". But that makes no sense, if you start from Code B you can end up winning Code S championship in the same season if you are good enough. I still don't see the need for a reset 
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Yeah i mean only the top 8 stay in code s regardless.
So i think it would be extremely unfair if the current top 8 would need to qualify too.
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On September 06 2014 23:12 johnbongham wrote:
Honestly I agree they shouldn't mess with the seeds. The first time my interest in sc2 esports took a big hit was when blizzard forced the wcs format onto everyone and I lost track of everything that was going on. Its really not in their best interest to keep knocking players down once they've become stars....
How does WCS make you lose track of what's going on? It's very straight forward and easy to understand
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On September 07 2014 00:11 Silvana wrote:Yeah I asked like 30 pages ago why they need to reset GSL but I'm not convinced. I think someone said something along the lines of "reset is needed to give the returning players a shot on WCS KR... it's more fair". But that makes no sense, if you start from Code B you can end up winning Code S championship in the same season if you are good enough. I still don't see the need for a reset
If I were to take a wild guess, I'd say that it is a way of compensating the Korean players that will make the Ro8s of EU/AM this season that can't stay in the region for next year. Since they won't be seeded into Code S, Blizzard wipes the slate clean and evens the playing field. Not fair to the GSL players, but then again I don't really think it's fair to boot the Korean players in Europe or America either.
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On September 07 2014 00:17 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 00:11 Silvana wrote:Yeah I asked like 30 pages ago why they need to reset GSL but I'm not convinced. I think someone said something along the lines of "reset is needed to give the returning players a shot on WCS KR... it's more fair". But that makes no sense, if you start from Code B you can end up winning Code S championship in the same season if you are good enough. I still don't see the need for a reset If I were to take a wild guess, I'd say that it is a way of compensating the Korean players that will make the Ro8s of EU/AM this season that can't stay in the region for next year. Since they won't be seeded into Code S, Blizzard wipes the slate clean and evens the playing field. Not fair to the GSL players, but then again I don't really think it's fair to boot the Korean players in Europe or America either.
It's pretty much globally unfair to Koreans generally speaking. These changes are truly foreigner welfare and it's not even funny. See my huge rant last page.
E: No disrespect to foreigners who are really working hard to play on par with Koreans. Mad respect for them actually.
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