Power Rank - August 2014 - Page 8

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Redrot

United States446 Posts

September 01 2014 17:56 GMT

#141

ABOUT FUCKING TIME

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

September 01 2014 17:57 GMT

#142

This is a fantastic PR. I agree with all the picks, perhaps with Solar over Cure instead, but the format and presentation is perfect. Nice to see Major where he belongs!

ssxsilver

United States4409 Posts

September 01 2014 17:57 GMT

#143

On September 02 2014 02:52 Lorning wrote:

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Cure also won Red Bull online
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Washington/Red_Bull_Battle_Grounds:_Online

What I mean to say is the writers implied it's a Power Ranking influenced on past consistently.

Cure has the RBBG win and I think he's a great up-and-comer... I just included that tournament into the rest of his August play (Code S). Prior to that, I don't think he'd be in anyone's top 10, no?

usopsama

6502 Posts

September 01 2014 17:58 GMT

#144

On September 02 2014 02:54 Grovbolle wrote:
Results for

Flash after 2014-08-01.

Games: 78.69% (48-13)
Matches: 91.67% (22-2)

Current form:
W W W W L W W W W W
Recent matches:

Flash 4 – 1

Zest

Flash 3 – 1

TaeJa

Flash 3 – 2

Snute

Flash 2 – 0

Scarlett

Flash 1 – 2

Flash 2 – 0

Solar

Flash 2 – 0

Dark

Flash 2 – 1

Soulkey

Flash 2 – 0

EffOrt

Filters:
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Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: all
Match Format:     all
On/offline:       both
Game Version:     all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

Results for

Maru after 2014-08-01.

Games: 66.67% (14-7)
Matches: 75.00% (6-2)

Current form:
W W W W W L W L
Recent matches:

Maru 1 – 2

EffOrt

Maru 2 – 1

SpeeD

Maru 1 – 2

Flash

Maru 2 – 0

Trust

Maru 2 – 1

Stats

Maru 2 – 0

Shine

Maru 2 – 0

Trap

Maru 2 – 1

Hush

Filters:
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Opponent Race:    all
Opponent Country: all
Match Format:     all
On/offline:       both
Game Version:     all

Stats by Aligulac. Link.

Thank you.

Grovbolle

Denmark3813 Posts

September 01 2014 17:58 GMT

#145

On September 02 2014 02:58 usopsama wrote:

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Thank you.

You're welcome.

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

September 01 2014 17:59 GMT

#146

The fact that this is the first Power Rank since December made me hesitant to just cut off at August 1 and exclusively count results from August. Since this ranking is the first in a while, I put slightly more emphasis on consistency and past results. That said, I would not make any major changes even if I didn't.

Hider

Denmark9447 Posts

September 01 2014 18:01 GMT

#147

Below are Polt's results for August. He is basically beating some of the lesser strong korean players (ryung, violet, keen, creator) while losing to top 20 Koreans and the best foreigners. Polt isn't even top 8 in Aliguac which overrates Koreans that plays mostly against foreigners.

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2014-08-29 Polt KR T 1–2 P KR Zest HotS offline
2014-08-29 Polt KR T 0–2 T DK Bunny HotS offline
Red Bull Battlegrounds 2014 Detroit hide
2014-08-24 Polt KR T 3–0 T KR TaeJa HotS offline
2014-08-24 Polt KR T 3–1 Z KR viOLet HotS offline
2014-08-24 Polt KR T 2–1 P KR San HotS offline
2014-08-23 Polt KR T 2–0 P US Bails HotS offline
2014-08-23 Polt KR T 2–0 T US Schnitzel HotS offline
2014-08-22 Polt KR T 2–0 P US KiFirE HotS offline
Red Bull Battlegrounds 2014 Online hide
2014-08-18 Polt KR T 1–2 P KR herO HotS online
2014-08-18 Polt KR T 0–2 T KR Cure HotS online
KeSPA Cup 2014 hide
2014-08-18 Polt KR T 0–2 P KR Trust HotS online
2014-08-18 Polt KR T 2–1 T KR Raynor HotS online
Red Bull Battlegrounds 2014 Online hide
2014-08-16 Polt KR T 2–1 T KR KeeN HotS online
2014-08-16 Polt KR T 2–1 Z KR HyuN HotS online
2014-08-16 Polt KR T 2–0 T KR Ryung HotS online
2014-08-16 Polt KR T 2–0 P NL Harstem HotS online
2014-08-16 Polt KR T 2–0 T KR Journey HotS online
2014-08-15 Polt KR T 0–2 T KR Cure HotS online
2014-08-14 Polt KR T 0–2 T KR sKyHigh HotS online
2014-08-14 Polt KR T 2–0 P KR Creator HotS online
Red Bull Battlegrounds 2014 Global Main Event hide
2014-08-09 Polt KR T 0–2 T KR MMA HotS offline
Destiny I hide
2014-08-09 Polt KR T 1–3 T KR Apocalypse HotS online
Red Bull Battlegrounds 2014 Global Main Event hide
2014-08-08 Polt KR T 0–2 Z KR Impact HotS offline
2014-08-08 Polt KR T 2–0 Z KR DongRaeGu HotS offline
2014-08-08 Polt KR T 1–2 Z KR DongRaeGu HotS offline
2014-08-08 Polt KR T 2–0 T KR MMA HotS offline
Destiny I hide
2014-08-05 Polt KR T 2–0 P US Minigun HotS online
2014-08-05 Polt KR T 2–0 Z US JonSnow HotS online
2014-08-05 Polt KR T 0–2 T MX MajOr HotS online
WCS 2014 Season 3 America Premier League hide
2014-08-04 Polt KR T 2–0 Z KR Jaedong HotS online
2014-08-04 Polt KR T 2–0 P CN MacSed HotS online
IEM Season IX Toronto Qualifiers Americas Stage 2 hide
2014-08-03 Polt KR T 3–2 Z KR viOLet HotS online
2014-08-03 Polt KR T 2–0 T US Illusion HotS online
2014-08-03 Polt KR T 0–3 T MX MajOr HotS online
2014-08-03 Polt KR T 2–0 T US Xenocider HotS online
2014-08-03 Polt KR T 2–0 T KR EJK

Now let's compare this to a guy who (perhaps rightfully) dropped out of the top-10 list.

So this guy lost to Snute (best foreigner), but no terrible track records vs Major, Scarlett, Stephano, Bunny and other foreigners). His only losses are to top 20 koreans (Yoda, Cure, Pigbaby and Flash), and besides that, he beats all of the same medicore koreans/foreigners as Polt does and even beats Polt in the heads-up battle. He was however also capable top 30 players like Yoda, Stardust, True and Ty. Polt's best win in August was against Hyung, DRG, Taeja and San. Besides, Taeja I wouldn't rate any of those guys above Ty (whom Hero beat twice in August).

So Hero imo still had better results than Polt in August and has had much better overall results since last powerrank (he was a top 3 player a couple of months ago). My point isn't that Hero should stay at top 10, but rather how ridicilous it is that Polt is even mentioned in this article. Instead, just attribute his 3-0 win over Taeja to what it was: Volatility of early game tvt, and you can also explain his embarring losses to Major, and Majors embarrasing 0-4 loss to Supernova. Like clearly there is no way to support Polt in top 15 if it isn't for his win vs Taeja, but if you attribute TvT wins so highly, then you cannot explain why Supernova isn't in top 10 either.

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2014-08-29 herO KR P 1–2 Z NO Snute HotS offline
2014-08-28 herO KR P 2–0 Z KR Revival HotS offline
2014-08-28 herO KR P 2–0 P KR StarDust HotS offline
2014-08-28 herO KR P 1–2 Z NO Snute HotS offline
2014-08-28 herO KR P 2–0 P CA desRow HotS offline
Red Bull Battlegrounds 2014 Online hide
2014-08-18 herO KR P 1–2 T KR Cure HotS online
2014-08-18 herO KR P 2–0 T KR YoDa HotS online
2014-08-18 herO KR P 2–1 T KR Polt HotS online
2014-08-18 herO KR P 0–2 T KR YoDa HotS online
2014-08-17 herO KR P 2–0 Z KR viOLet HotS online
2014-08-17 herO KR P 2–0 T KR Journey HotS online
2014-08-17 herO KR P 2–1 Z KR Check HotS online
2014-08-17 herO KR P 2–1 Z NZ Petraeus HotS online
2014-08-17 herO KR P 2–0 P CA WhatAmI HotS online
2014-08-17 herO KR P 2–0 Z US SLeet HotS online
2014-08-15 herO KR P 1–2 T KR Cure HotS online
2014-08-15 herO KR P 2–0 T KR Bbyong HotS online
2014-08-15 herO KR P 2–0 P KR Panic HotS online
2014-08-15 herO KR P 2–0 T KR Hack HotS online
2014-08-15 herO KR P 2–0 Z KR TRUE HotS online
2014-08-14 herO KR P 1–2 T KR YoDa HotS online
2014-08-14 herO KR P 2–0 Z NZ Petraeus HotS online
2014-08-14 herO KR P 2–0 Z US Grief HotS online
IEM Season IX Toronto Qualifiers hide
2014-08-12 herO KR P 0–2 T KR Flash HotS online
2014-08-12 herO KR P 2–1 T KR TY HotS online
2014-08-12 herO KR P 0–2 P KR Pigbaby HotS online
2014-08-12 herO KR P 2–0 P KR Super HotS online
2014-08-12 herO KR P 2–1 T KR TY HotS online

Since this ranking is the first in a while, I put slightly more emphasis on consistency and past results. That said, I would not make any major changes even if I didn't.

Yes Polt fits in nicely in top 10. A guy who losses to Stephano and other foreigners while Hero only losses to other top koreans. There is just no way you can explain his ranking here, you should edit it.

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

September 01 2014 18:02 GMT

#148

Rain right where he belongs! Awesome writeup, pretty much agree with all of this, thanks!

Trasko

Sweden983 Posts

September 01 2014 18:07 GMT

#149

Wrong! Everything is wrong!

orvinreyes

577 Posts

September 01 2014 18:09 GMT

#150

On September 02 2014 02:59 Zealously wrote:
The fact that this is the first Power Rank since December made me hesitant to just cut off at August 1 and exclusively count results from August. Since this ranking is the first in a while, I put slightly more emphasis on consistency and past results. That said, I would not make any major changes even if I didn't.

Definitely, no changes are needed! The debate is fun anyway. What's more important is... Power Rank is back! Thanks again Zealously

cLAN.Anax

United States2847 Posts

September 01 2014 18:12 GMT

#151

So many big names there.... :-O Flash and Rain, I'm happy about. Will have to look more into Maru; never fully struck me as "legendary," but that could change.

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

September 01 2014 18:13 GMT

#152

On September 02 2014 03:07 Trasko wrote:
Wrong! Everything is wrong!

Hey, I can fire you whenever

On September 02 2014 03:12 cLAN.Anax wrote:
So many big names there.... :-O Flash and Rain, I'm happy about. Will have to look more into Maru; never fully struck me as "legendary," but that could change.

That's a surprise, I thought the community was very unified on Maru. Have you not watched a lot of his games, or have you just not been impressed?

UberNuB

United States365 Posts

September 01 2014 18:16 GMT

#153

Oh no.

Rain always manages to drop out of form right after he is publicly highlighted as being a top player.

Also, stylistically a 10-1 is a bit more interesting to read than a 1-10. Otherwise fun read, thanks!

Tsubbi

Germany7996 Posts

September 01 2014 18:22 GMT

#154

how is a 3 time in a row code s finalist not at least in top 2

BakedButters

United States748 Posts

September 01 2014 18:25 GMT

#155

Don't know why Maru is ranked 2, when during the past 2 months we have seen him fail to qualify for 1. double elimination iem Shenzhen, 2. iem Toronto 3. and Kespa cup

And I don't think any zergs deserve to on this list. All the korean zergs have been struggling recently, and the top zergs, like Soulkey, soO, Solar have been very inconsistent

Flash should be #1. He has been on unstoppable since the patch

I guess my list is momentum based, and Terrans are on a roll

Superbanana

2369 Posts

September 01 2014 18:25 GMT

#156

Honestly, i think Maru, Taeja, Parting and Rain are too high on the list, while Cure, soO and iNnoVation are too low.
*runs away
Anyways, its very hard to evaluate "who is the best right now?", despite recent results im pretty sure sOs, herO and Solar still know how to play and that they maybe deserve a place on the list

Its not the same as " who played better this month?", something that is not as hard to answer.
Not an an easy task so i call this power rank a good job.
The foreign list is prolly my own list, except that i would switch Sen with Bunny

Zealously

East Gorteau22261 Posts

September 01 2014 18:27 GMT

#157

On September 02 2014 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
how is a 3 time in a row code s finalist not at least in top 2

Damn, I forgot to put Mvp on this list. Pretty silly of me not to include a 4-time champion!

UberNuB

United States365 Posts

September 01 2014 18:27 GMT

#158

On September 02 2014 03:22 Tsubbi wrote:
how is a 3 time in a row code s finalist not at least in top 2

Outside of Code S soO has been pretty mediocre. http://aligulac.com/players/125-soO/results/

Lorning

Belgica34432 Posts

September 01 2014 18:27 GMT

#159

On September 02 2014 03:27 Zealously wrote:

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Damn, I forgot to put Mvp on this list. Pretty silly of me not to include a 4-time champion!

I think he meant MKP, although those weren't all Code S finals

Pino

1032 Posts

September 01 2014 18:28 GMT

#160

On September 01 2014 23:25 Incognoto wrote:

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you're right obviously

this is just how i feel

you know, feelings

polt has never impressed me, ever. i don't watch all his games, admittedly, but he's never given me a moment that left me on my butt, unlike lots of other players. so i'm inclined to call him overrated

even if that makes me flat out wrong. that's what feelings are, after all.

IEM cologne maybe? Where he beat both classic and Rain??

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