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On August 07 2014 04:42 Jampackedeon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 21:44 ClueClueClue wrote:On August 06 2014 21:41 SuperHofmann wrote:On August 06 2014 21:12 neoghaleon55 wrote:
I wonder if it's scary or dangerous to go to Russia these days... That's it. And I think someone can also think "I don't wanto to go in a nation that generate a war". The US has a finger in most armed conflicts on this planet, but it wouldn't keep me from going to Washington DC. : P Russia has more than a finger in Ukraine, they've committed quite a few bodies, serious armaments, and absorbed Crimea.
yes we know this
can we agree that noone is holy in this world and just move on talk about the actual GAME and the PLAYERS?
the thing that unites us in this forum is actually the game not the hatred towards other nationalities, you might see a little note by the mods at the top of the page. so maybe we could finally stop this stuff.
there's an extra part in this forum for general things that happen in life you can go there and discuss politics the whole day
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On August 07 2014 04:44 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 07 2014 04:33 crow_mw wrote:
It is a great tragedy, that while Russians are awesome and passionate people, their government is on a verge of starting WWIII. I love you guys, but boycotting DH Moscow is, albeit small, way to demonstrate that Russian actions are not acceptable for a modern country. To call a boycott like this small in an understatement. I think to the general populous of Russia it's completely laughable. It doesn't demonstrate anything, it hurts DH and SC2 more than anything else. Again, I don't want to say TB is in the wrong here, I just think it's not necessary at all. Yeah but DH moscow was a stupid idea to begin with tbh, you don't do an event on a country which make the 1st page of every newspapers for 6 months. Next we will see DH Jerusalem ? Lol. Anyway, the tournament looks crappy, I probably won't watch it. There is the same tournament every week with Go4sc2 and Zotacs.
To be fair, DH Moscow was announced way before Kiev turned into an urban warfare.
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On August 07 2014 04:48 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 04:44 Faust852 wrote:On August 07 2014 04:36 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:On August 07 2014 04:33 crow_mw wrote:
It is a great tragedy, that while Russians are awesome and passionate people, their government is on a verge of starting WWIII. I love you guys, but boycotting DH Moscow is, albeit small, way to demonstrate that Russian actions are not acceptable for a modern country. To call a boycott like this small in an understatement. I think to the general populous of Russia it's completely laughable. It doesn't demonstrate anything, it hurts DH and SC2 more than anything else. Again, I don't want to say TB is in the wrong here, I just think it's not necessary at all. Yeah but DH moscow was a stupid idea to begin with tbh, you don't do an event on a country which make the 1st page of every newspapers for 6 months. Next we will see DH Jerusalem ? Lol. Anyway, the tournament looks crappy, I probably won't watch it. There is the same tournament every week with Go4sc2 and Zotacs. To be fair, DH Moscow was announced way before Kiev turned into an urban warfare.
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I thought DH Moscow was announced during riots in Kiev. Now I feel bad for Dreamhack, no one could predict such events to happen in near future.
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On August 07 2014 04:57 Cinek357 wrote:
I thought DH Moscow was announced during riots in Kiev. Now I feel bad for Dreamhack, no one could predict such events to happen in near future.
I mean it was already being criticised because of their laws against "Homosexual Propaganda" back then. The whole Ukraine conflict that now happenend in between isn't really helping things.
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Well this is going to be the worst DH ever. Cool for the locals I guess.
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On August 07 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
Well this is going to be the worst DH ever. Cool for the locals I guess.
Give it a chance, the second batch might be more impressive.
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On August 07 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
Well this is going to be the worst DH ever. Cool for the locals I guess.
Maybe the last twenty players can upgrade the line-up a bit. I hope...
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I would not go to Russia ATM LOL
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I'm pretty psyched to see what Adonminus can do in an offline setting.
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On August 07 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
Well this is going to be the worst DH ever. Cool for the locals I guess.
Outside of hugging Patience, i don't see a reason to go right now at least.
On the other hand, i just found that entrance is free if you're not VIP, rofl.
On August 07 2014 05:29 plgElwood wrote:
I would not go to Russia ATM LOL
What is so funny?
Except that we can laugh at you that you don't wanna see beautiful city 
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On August 07 2014 04:35 meshfusion wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 04:30 Efane wrote:On August 07 2014 04:27 meshfusion wrote:On August 07 2014 04:19 NewTypeBeez wrote:
When I lived in Novosibirsk, Russia, all of the Koreans never felt really safe. Afraid of walking by themselves and being attacked because they are asian, but nothing ever happened. Yes, Russia can be dangerous, but so can anywhere. You just need to be consciously aware of your surroundings. I honestly feel like nothing would happen to the Axiom players if they went, but if TB wants to play it safe, then let him play it safe. Better safe than sorry. This is a huge lie and straight up bullshit - sorry but you're either lying or completely ignorant. Novosibirsk and Siberia in general is FILLED with Asian looking Russians, because the further east you go into Siberia the more people are 100% Asians. Russian regions like Yakutsk, while being Siberia/Russia are entirely made up of asian looking people. While Novosibirsk is still in the mostly-white part of Siberia being central - it has a HUGE amount of people from Yakutsk and Khazhakstan who look asian. So saying that Korean never felt safe in a place full of Asian Russians is probably one of the biggest bullshit I could read all day. I lived in NSK and my gf is from there, go there all the time, seeing Asian looking people in Siberia is the most common thing in the universe. In fact, it would be very hard to distinguish between the Russians and the Korean/Chinese. When I was there a Chinese friend of mine was being approached and people were speaking in Russian to him all the time assuming he was from Siberia. Mod, I know you asked to not talk about "political" stuff, not sure if this could be counted as such, but I felt I had to inform people about this, because someone coming here can read this post and actually believe this guy. What he wrote is straight up incorrect/false or this guy is lying/trolling. Anyone who has been to Novosibirsk can confirm this. Братан, Новосиб состоит на 90% из таких же белых людей как в Москве Misscommunication and lack of basic googling skills is amusing) User was warned for this post в Москве полно ребят из Якутии тоже. Думаю, их здесь много. Anyway, I will stop posting about this but it's kind of absurd to see how much people are badly informed or straight up lie like that guy I quoted above. It's kind of hard to read so much bs meh :/ Best of luck to all the players and since I will actually leave Moscow after 2 days after DH happens, I will definitely attend. User was warned for this post
I did live in Novosibirsk, and I am not lying. I'm just telling you what the Korean students told me. I know Japanese girls who lived in the city center had a 10x better experience, but I pm'd you to discuss like human beings. Don't freak out and just off people as not telling the truth. I loved Russia.
The lineup of players look fairly weak though  Hope the second announcement has some treats for us. Interesting to see Adonminus, wonder how he will do.
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On August 07 2014 05:29 plgElwood wrote:
I would not go to Russia ATM LOL
I wish Hitler said the same.
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On August 07 2014 03:58 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 03:55 KingAlphard wrote:
So Axiom isn't there for political reasons, what about all the other progamers?
Would be nice to hear from them why they aren't attending.
But then maybe dreamhack is just trolling us and the other 20 players are all top foreigners/koreans. What? TB just said, that it has nothing to do with politics: Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 03:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[...] however this decision as I've already said (and you elected to ignore) has nothing to do with any kind of political boycott.
Please at least read the posts in here, before saying such stuff.
He did read right it actually, just TotalBiscuit edited his post and is pretending he didn't say anything about Ukraine conflict. 
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At a glance, looks like Happy and Slivko should go real deep. How in shape are Golden and Patience right now?
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On August 07 2014 05:49 [BSP]Kain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2014 03:58 Xoronius wrote:On August 07 2014 03:55 KingAlphard wrote:
So Axiom isn't there for political reasons, what about all the other progamers?
Would be nice to hear from them why they aren't attending.
But then maybe dreamhack is just trolling us and the other 20 players are all top foreigners/koreans. What? TB just said, that it has nothing to do with politics: On August 07 2014 03:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
[...] however this decision as I've already said (and you elected to ignore) has nothing to do with any kind of political boycott.
Please at least read the posts in here, before saying such stuff. He did read right it actually, just TotalBiscuit edited his post and is pretending he didn't say anything about Ukraine conflict.
Secondly, Russias belligerence in how they're acting with the Ukraine is reason enough to keep our players out on both moral grounds and with concern to their own safety.
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World politics aside (and in russia there are some pretty bad signs of homophobia or even racism...).
But is the argument really: People might think some Koreans are gay, because they play around while having a different cultural background? They might be a bit touchy, but I mean what kind of evidence has this argument, any experiences or is it just some kind of prejudice?
Russia is tough, but so are other places (IEM Sao Paulo :O?). I can understand when the players don't want to go there because they feel unsafe. It's their decision and it is fine if you clarify this internally as a team. But to make this public with this kind of argument kinda sucks. It makes it political and it offends the russian esports community.
Anyways I hope it will be a good tournament, but the timing is pretty bad I will watch it!
Russia and eastern Europe is big at eSports so I hope the continent will become more united in the further future. Because we all know: US Server sucks^^
Peace in Europe!
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On August 07 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
Well this is going to be the worst DH ever. Cool for the locals I guess.
Still might beat out Red Bull Atlanta to survive being the weakest premier of the year depending on the next invites
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