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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 31 2014 18:14 GMT
#161
On August 01 2014 03:12 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:11 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:10 Lumi wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Should be okay, though. Think about all the walk-over teams in the NFL or the NBA.


Yeah those teams shouldn't exist either.

Yeah because teams that were once bad never work their way up to being good over time. That never happens.


No money = bad performance.
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Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
July 31 2014 18:14 GMT
#162
AxiomDRG would be nice... probably won't happen though
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 31 2014 18:15 GMT
#163
On August 01 2014 03:14 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:11 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:10 Lumi wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Should be okay, though. Think about all the walk-over teams in the NFL or the NBA.


Yeah those teams shouldn't exist either.

Yeah because teams that were once bad never work their way up to being good over time. That never happens.


No money = bad performance.

Should've told Maru that before he won OSL
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 31 2014 18:16 GMT
#164
On August 01 2014 03:15 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:14 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:11 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:10 Lumi wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Should be okay, though. Think about all the walk-over teams in the NFL or the NBA.


Yeah those teams shouldn't exist either.

Yeah because teams that were once bad never work their way up to being good over time. That never happens.


No money = bad performance.

Should've told Maru that before he won OSL

Total fluke. Rain's team has more money so 99 times out of 100 he wins
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
July 31 2014 18:17 GMT
#165
Well DRG is gone. But with all these other players (not even including players outside the team just being mercs for MVP). MVP's overall roster is quite huge. At least they'll have a large in house practice roster.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#166
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Were you opposed to the existance of Airforce ACE in BW?
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SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
July 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#167
@mongmong I think all the former mvp players are gone but can't be 100% sure.. The article says that the former MVP players were tired of playing in proleague, but did not leave on bad terms or anything.
Don't count on it yoshi xD!!!
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
July 31 2014 18:19 GMT
#168
On August 01 2014 03:14 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:11 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:10 Lumi wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Should be okay, though. Think about all the walk-over teams in the NFL or the NBA.


Yeah those teams shouldn't exist either.

Yeah because teams that were once bad never work their way up to being good over time. That never happens.


No money = bad performance.


I understand why you've got some decent abl fame with this kind of stupid reasonning.
Zest fanboy.
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
July 31 2014 18:26 GMT
#169
On August 01 2014 03:19 SNSeigifried wrote:
@mongmong I think all the former mvp players are gone but can't be 100% sure.. The article says that the former MVP players were tired of playing in proleague, but did not leave on bad terms or anything.
Don't count on it yoshi xD!!!


Didn't notice that myself, but if that's the case. Then it does make sense. No matter how you look at it, if ALL their former players left, that can't be good. I can see some leaving, but all?
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1429 Posts
July 31 2014 18:27 GMT
#170
i would think DRG left because he didn't want to paly for MVP anymore. if it was a performance issue, well, DRG is easily better than every single newcomer MVP got here (was the only player from MVP to make it to code s).
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 31 2014 18:29 GMT
#171
On August 01 2014 03:27 Tanzklaue wrote:
i would think DRG left because he didn't want to paly for MVP anymore. if it was a performance issue, well, DRG is easily better than every single newcomer MVP got here (was the only player from MVP to make it to code s).


Symbol, Seed and HerO are probably comparable overall. DRG isn't the one-and-only team league bonjwa any more, nor does he have the individual league results to back up such a decision. Hopefully he has something else lined up
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 31 2014 18:34 GMT
#172
DRG is at least still making Code S. I don't see how a player like Seed who wasn't able to make it past Code A in like over a year is comparable. Symbol yes. HerO has been really hit or miss ever since winning IEM
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
July 31 2014 18:35 GMT
#173
DRG can do whatever he wants, really. One of the most desirable players in every way. He sometimes streams, he loves going to foreigner tournaments, he's super personable and has a huge fan following, and he has a strong history of wins (code s, mlg, dreamhack, maybe more) and while he doesn't dominate as he used to, he's still a very relevant player. One of the players who has been in code s the most seasons, period. I've been tweeting at him for a while to try to encourage him to move in with Polt and Violet
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 18:37:40
July 31 2014 18:36 GMT
#174
On August 01 2014 03:10 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs

Startale is recruiting atm, also if they want to get into PL, poaching the free agents is a very realistic move. Plus Axiom's Olimo was talking about IM's future (someone stated in the earlier pages I think), it looks good according to her.


They still have Pet, Panic and can get Curious back to Korea because he hadn't qualified for WCS America anyway.
And it's without new recruits.
It's not like people were arguing hard against AirForce ACE in BW days, so it's ok.

MVP will be ok, if Proleague doesn't change format back to bo7, you have to have 2-3 stable players and considering that they're having HerO, Seed, Leenock, LosirA, Symbol and YongHwa already + it's not confirmed that Super, Billowy and guys like Swagger left the team.

On the other hand, considering that they left because they were tired because of SPL, will be interesting to what foreign team do they go and if they go there at all.

Compare it with Prime last season who had 1,5 players until MKP came back and still were getting wins and just think about how volatile is bo5 in teamleagues.



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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
July 31 2014 18:37 GMT
#175
Wow, both Symbol, Yongwha and Kaghosira! MVP's my full support for the next pro league
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
July 31 2014 18:43 GMT
#176
ESF Team 8 Plz ^_^
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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 18:46:45
July 31 2014 18:46 GMT
#177
where are the "Liquid'DRG" posts?
or is that far too obvious

so mvp is basically IM but without coach kang. right?
that's a good thing isn't it, at least when it comes to team league performance
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
July 31 2014 18:49 GMT
#178
Guess I'm back to not having a favorite team
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
July 31 2014 18:52 GMT
#179
On August 01 2014 03:46 Oboeman wrote:
where are the "Liquid'DRG" posts?
or is that far too obvious

so mvp is basically IM but without coach kang. right?
that's a good thing isn't it, at least when it comes to team league performance

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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 31 2014 18:54 GMT
#180
Startale_DRG please!
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