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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 31 2014 18:54 GMT
#181
Those guys + DRG/Super is a decent team. Without them, they're still going to finish in the cellar. They did this and lost the one person (DRG) that made people like them.

As far as DRG goes, I don't think he really cares about PL. I think he just wants to win tournaments and make money before he goes to military. He can do whatever he wants, and if he stays motivated, will be fine. I hope he keeps playing Code S though and doesn't move to WCS AM or EU unless he joins Liquid
#TheOneTrueDong
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 31 2014 18:54 GMT
#182
On August 01 2014 03:19 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Were you opposed to the existance of Airforce ACE in BW?


Yeah and look where they are now.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
July 31 2014 18:54 GMT
#183
Surprised that the players given reason was that they don't want to play in Proleague anymore
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 31 2014 18:55 GMT
#184
On August 01 2014 03:19 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:14 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:12 Darkhorse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:11 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:10 Lumi wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
[quote]

If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Should be okay, though. Think about all the walk-over teams in the NFL or the NBA.


Yeah those teams shouldn't exist either.

Yeah because teams that were once bad never work their way up to being good over time. That never happens.


No money = bad performance.


I understand why you've got some decent abl fame with this kind of stupid reasonning.


You are the one that's stupid to think that money doesn't give anyone motivation.
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 18:59:18
July 31 2014 18:58 GMT
#185
On August 01 2014 03:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Surprised that the players given reason was that they don't want to play in Proleague anymore


That means they're ALL going to look for foreign teams no? I mean there's no Korean teams left that don't play in proleague besides Axiom and aren't they at capacity at their house?

Well all who aren't just retiring
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 31 2014 19:02 GMT
#186
On August 01 2014 03:54 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:19 Zealously wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:08 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:03 digmouse wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:01 Xiphos wrote:
On August 01 2014 02:55 LongShot27 wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:37 Zealously wrote:
On July 31 2014 23:33 LongShot27 wrote:
This gives us 9 teams for pro-league next season currently. Lets hope they make it an even 10.


If IM somehow miracle their way out of disbanding (which seems unlikely given that they only have 1 player in Lucky, but there have been some rumors), I don't think it would be impossible for there to be a tenth team. It could either involve a lot of convincing TotalBiscuit or other foreign teams joining together, sure, but it's still a possibility.


You gotta believe


With this announcement, Prime is dead.

IM only have 1 player in Lucky for their SC2 squat.

Unless those two teams decide to rebuild their squat, then PL is down to 6 teams.

Startale is in.


With what lineup? Life + Hack won't cut it for PL material.

Listen, as much as having more teams is good. We got to be realistic here. There is little chance that ST + MVP can perform up to par with CJ, Khan, T1, Rolster, and Green Wings.

What the former ESF teams should do is to come together, formulate one team with the best leftover players in order to even have a chance at reaching the playoff. That will improve the level of the games and competition. Instead we get sacrificial lambs


Were you opposed to the existance of Airforce ACE in BW?


Yeah and look where they are now.


Same place MBC and Oz are?

I mean come on, if the team still has funds and players to compete, why should they be kicked out and told "you suck, we don't want you in our league"? One team will always be last in every tournament, that doesn't mean they'll go 0-28 and bring absolutely no entertainment or value to the league. It's very counterproductive to give teams the boot because they "might not be good enough". Such a mindset prevents improvement and limits exposure, guaranteeing that they'll disband eventually.
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yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
July 31 2014 19:06 GMT
#187
So the news is a bad one after all. T.T
DRG shouldn't have a problem if he wants to keep playing, if not a KeSPA team for sure a foreign team would like to have him.
Even if he isn't even close to the player that he was, there is enough foreigner fans that grew up in sc2 with him that it would be worth the semi contract (HerO, Seed, ect that live in Korea while participating in foreign tournaments mainly).

I really hope the best for Keen, Super, ect. While they were clearly a class below the top KeSPA players in Proleague, they are for sure on the level with top foreigners.
gl hf
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1415 Posts
July 31 2014 19:06 GMT
#188
On August 01 2014 03:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Surprised that the players given reason was that they don't want to play in Proleague anymore

proleague is hard and it doesn't pay off if they can't reach the play offs everytime.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 19:12:05
July 31 2014 19:11 GMT
#189
On August 01 2014 04:06 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 03:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Surprised that the players given reason was that they don't want to play in Proleague anymore

proleague is hard and it doesn't pay off if they can't reach the play offs everytime.

I think it is more about traveling.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
July 31 2014 19:16 GMT
#190
MVP.MVP incoming
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
July 31 2014 19:16 GMT
#191
On August 01 2014 04:11 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:06 Tanzklaue wrote:
On August 01 2014 03:54 Darkhorse wrote:
Surprised that the players given reason was that they don't want to play in Proleague anymore

proleague is hard and it doesn't pay off if they can't reach the play offs everytime.

I think it is more about traveling.

Especially for a player like DRG, who went to almost every MLG before WoL release boom faded off.
He misses those big ass checks.
gl hf
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
July 31 2014 19:35 GMT
#192
I can see pretty much every player that was on MVP besides DRG retiring. It's not too much of a stretch. Super might attempt to find a new team, KeeN is one of my favorite players, but he has not had any sort of stellar results lately.

Swagger will probably retire or become a full time coach, if possible.

For guys like aLive or hyvaa, who just joined the team only to presumably get the boot, this sucks and is probably very disheartening. Beyond that... Sniper, despite being a GSL Champ doesn't really have much going for him, Tails, Billowy... I dunno, I can see most of them retiring.

Not that I want it to happen
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
July 31 2014 19:40 GMT
#193
On August 01 2014 04:35 DinosaurJones wrote:
I can see pretty much every player that was on MVP besides DRG retiring. It's not too much of a stretch. Super might attempt to find a new team, KeeN is one of my favorite players, but he has not had any sort of stellar results lately.

Swagger will probably retire or become a full time coach, if possible.

For guys like aLive or hyvaa, who just joined the team only to presumably get the boot, this sucks and is probably very disheartening. Beyond that... Sniper, despite being a GSL Champ doesn't really have much going for him, Tails, Billowy... I dunno, I can see most of them retiring.

Not that I want it to happen


Sniper should obviously join Axiom
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
July 31 2014 19:41 GMT
#194
On August 01 2014 04:40 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 04:35 DinosaurJones wrote:
I can see pretty much every player that was on MVP besides DRG retiring. It's not too much of a stretch. Super might attempt to find a new team, KeeN is one of my favorite players, but he has not had any sort of stellar results lately.

Swagger will probably retire or become a full time coach, if possible.

For guys like aLive or hyvaa, who just joined the team only to presumably get the boot, this sucks and is probably very disheartening. Beyond that... Sniper, despite being a GSL Champ doesn't really have much going for him, Tails, Billowy... I dunno, I can see most of them retiring.

Not that I want it to happen


Sniper should obviously join Axiom


I'm sure Ryung would love that!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 31 2014 19:43 GMT
#195
I just realized Swagger will be teamless. Noooooo
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 31 2014 19:44 GMT
#196
I guess Choya is coming out of retirement for the 17th time
FragsterTex
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6 Posts
July 31 2014 19:56 GMT
#197
I think Acer should pick up DRG. Would be a perfect fit, I guess.
I'm not sure why, but I like the change. The old MVP member seemed to underperform since quite a while. So maybe a change and a fresh start will turn out to be better for everyone of them
Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
July 31 2014 20:05 GMT
#198
A better word for it than "rebuilding" is restarting.
"I had to close the door so my parents wouldn't judge me." - ZombieGrub during the ShitfaceTradeTV stream
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-31 20:10:26
July 31 2014 20:08 GMT
#199
DRG not on MVP? wow

On August 01 2014 03:46 Oboeman wrote:
where are the "Liquid'DRG" posts?
or is that far too obvious

so mvp is basically IM but without coach kang. right?
that's a good thing isn't it, at least when it comes to team league performance

one can dream
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
July 31 2014 20:21 GMT
#200
Acer DRG would be awesome. Although what that team really needs is a good protoss, or two. Still, Acer is kind of my second favorite team, even though it's mostly for scarlett/nerchio love (but i respect mma and inno.) Acer DRG would definitely convert me into a full-on Acer fan.
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