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Krr, iAsonu and XY suspended from WCS in 2014 - Page 5

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RealAncestor
Profile Joined August 2012
Romania25 Posts
July 12 2014 17:37 GMT
#81
Before the incident, I used to be a Krr fan. But now, me and my team are really glad for this decision. It really shows that no matter how small the competitive league one played in and cheated, the community and Blizzard sees this and takes appropriate measures. Bans should apply more frequent on the Battle.net ladder system as well.

Team Spectre played against Krr in the SC2ITL Season 2 and we had no clue about him being under the identity of KensShow. The 4-0 loss lowered our moral a bit and I would say it even played a small snowball effect for the future clanwars. GG for Krr, but we played against another man, from another team. This can very well happen in the WCS, because a man of that age is very less likely to change. Maybe in the future he will, but no guarantee even about that.

It's really important that all players of StarCraft2 to follow some basic manner rules and show competitive attitude, if we want to make the best out of this game in the future as well.

Thanks,
Mihai "Ancestor" Traistaru
TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
July 12 2014 17:42 GMT
#82
If you ain't cheating you ain't trying.
My dream is to tear up your dream.
ppp
Profile Joined March 2013
174 Posts
July 12 2014 17:51 GMT
#83
I didn't read the whole thread, and I don't know much about the story but it was quite frequent that 2 players of the same team don't play each other on ladder.
Socup
Profile Joined June 2014
190 Posts
July 12 2014 17:56 GMT
#84
On July 12 2014 15:13 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 10:03 geokilla wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:35 Dodgin wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:30 nkr wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


which korean players? is there any proof?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/cipslay

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq7g2l

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq5o36


Lol Blizzard... I guess the Korean market is more important?


Well, technically there is no proof since none of the players admitted doing it and the extend of game trading is also unkown, however I do think that Blizz should investigate it. :-/


Its entirely possible blizz cant do a thing about it from a legal standpoint, being that KR is another country. Also, why would anyone want blizz to be the police force for tournaments?
There's no reason blizzard can't release new units or fixes to a game without creating another costly "expansion" you've already paid 100$ for, unless they want to treadmill the gambler with future promises of "it gets better"
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
July 12 2014 18:33 GMT
#85
can blizzard prevent win trading? i mean they have so many ways to enforce anything they've implemented, i found it hard to believe that they cannot find a way to get rid of win trading...
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 12 2014 18:59 GMT
#86
Good decision and appropriate response. Glad that Blizzard didn't blow this off simply because none of these players have a shot at making Blizzcon
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Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
July 12 2014 19:13 GMT
#87
On July 13 2014 03:33 Advantageous wrote:
can blizzard prevent win trading? i mean they have so many ways to enforce anything they've implemented, i found it hard to believe that they cannot find a way to get rid of win trading...


How would they do it? there's only 200 people in GM, so you are sure to hit the same player at least a few times, even just from watching streams, you see some people with similar MMR get matched up multiple times in a row. Its not like the ladder looks at players and thinks "Hmm they are on the same team, better not let them play each other." and that wouldn't even work because they can just win-trade with people who aren't on their team, ie; JYP and Daisy.

The only way they could prevent win-trading is not letting people play each other multiple times, but with only 200 people in GM, they would fuck the ladder system so hard that it is unreasonable.

Also, Blizzard is already doing something about win-trading, they are banning people who do it from the biggest SC2 tournaments if they decide to do it and get caught.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
July 12 2014 19:48 GMT
#88
Good.

Screw cheaters.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 19:54:07
July 12 2014 19:53 GMT
#89
i thought they (the players) would be smarter after the ban of dimaga in the past
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 12 2014 21:00 GMT
#90
rekt
RIP MKP
Magggrig
Profile Joined January 2014
56 Posts
July 12 2014 21:03 GMT
#91
What did Krr do ?
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
July 12 2014 21:15 GMT
#92
I don't even know who any of them are.
Guys, if you need to cheat to get anywhere in this game, you should retire instead and get a real job.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
July 13 2014 01:11 GMT
#93
Kids gotta learn that cheating is used in many other sports, but this one isn't one of them. Hopefully these guys learn from their mistakes and return with a clean slate and a better mind.
Artunit
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Philippines400 Posts
July 13 2014 01:16 GMT
#94
Damn Kr why do this?
NrT.Artunit
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
July 13 2014 01:20 GMT
#95
On July 13 2014 06:03 Magggrig wrote:
What did Krr do ?

In a clan war he played on his account and another account so he could play twice.
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England898 Posts
July 13 2014 02:55 GMT
#96
On July 13 2014 10:20 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 06:03 Magggrig wrote:
What did Krr do ?

In a clan war he played on his account and another account so he could play twice.


He actually played for another player (KensShow) and for his team in numerous individual tournaments & team leagues as well as himself for his team.
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Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
July 14 2014 01:03 GMT
#97
On July 12 2014 04:32 Josh_Video wrote:
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On July 12 2014 04:31 LongShot27 wrote:
The worst part about this, is none of them needed to do it, All three of these players are easily challenger level players and possibly premier in their regions. Don't break the rules kids.


Yeah, and IAsonu and Krr's cheating had NOTHING to do with WCS. Krr was cheating in a teamleague and IAsonu did not need the wins anyway, since he won the chinese qualifier.


iAsonu was helping XY win, I thought? That is why his was WCS related.

I am glad Blizzard came out and took a stance against this, and are encouraging the players to play on the NA latter in a legitimate manner.
CLG/Liquid ~~ youtube.com/reddedgaming
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
July 14 2014 02:53 GMT
#98
On July 14 2014 10:03 Holytornados wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:32 Josh_Video wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:31 LongShot27 wrote:
The worst part about this, is none of them needed to do it, All three of these players are easily challenger level players and possibly premier in their regions. Don't break the rules kids.


Yeah, and IAsonu and Krr's cheating had NOTHING to do with WCS. Krr was cheating in a teamleague and IAsonu did not need the wins anyway, since he won the chinese qualifier.


iAsonu was helping XY win, I thought? That is why his was WCS related.

I am glad Blizzard came out and took a stance against this, and are encouraging the players to play on the NA latter in a legitimate manner.


On July 12 2014 05:12 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:02 Yakikorosu wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:32 Josh_Video wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:31 LongShot27 wrote:
The worst part about this, is none of them needed to do it, All three of these players are easily challenger level players and possibly premier in their regions. Don't break the rules kids.


Yeah, and IAsonu and Krr's cheating had NOTHING to do with WCS. Krr was cheating in a teamleague and IAsonu did not need the wins anyway, since he won the chinese qualifier.


If you read the post carefully, iAsonu was not suspended for getting himself wins but for helping XY get sufficient wins on NA server to participate in wildcard qualifier (XY is not currently qualified for Challenger).

In other words, he was suspended for helping XY cheat, not for cheating for his own benefit:

While iAsonu already held WCS Challenger status, he is not indemnified and was complicit in cheating.


Sorry, what I meant to say was that neither of these players cheated to get into WCS, and were disqualified for other reasons.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
July 15 2014 13:30 GMT
#99
So does this mean they will suspend JYP Daisy and Check for wintrading aswell?
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
July 15 2014 13:34 GMT
#100
Get WCS points or get banned tryin'

~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
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