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Krr, iAsonu and XY suspended from WCS in 2014 - Page 2

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 11 2014 19:49 GMT
#21
On July 12 2014 04:41 Picasso wrote:
feel like catching maphackers are more urgent of an issue if Blizzard cared so much about justice


They are trying, they made a post 2 days ago.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/14732379
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 11 2014 19:57 GMT
#22
On July 12 2014 04:31 LongShot27 wrote:
The worst part about this, is none of them needed to do it, All three of these players are easily challenger level players and possibly premier in their regions. Don't break the rules kids.


idno, the worst part about this to me is that they all cheated in some way
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Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 11 2014 19:58 GMT
#23
On July 12 2014 04:48 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:44 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:41 xYc wrote:
Don't really understand, what SC2I has to do with WCS. Not that I like matchfixing, but can the rules be applied to unrelated competitions? Could they be applied to ... don't know ... Hearthstone cheating as well?

You don't understand what sc2 has to do with WCS?

try to read more carefully
he said sc2l

I saw that, I assumed it was a typo or the l stood was "ladder", either way I don't know what it means. Whether it's a typo, ladder or league, it still doesn't make sense.
Refer to my post.
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
July 11 2014 19:58 GMT
#24
This is the first time i've seen a real consequence for unfair play since TL banned dimaga tt1 yosh and them during the TSL. Outside of anything to do with matchfixing that is.

I think anyone who thought about running 2 accounts in a league to help a team out or try and make an extra buck, is going to now think otherwise.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
July 11 2014 20:02 GMT
#25
At least WCS 2015 is confirmed I guess?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 20:04:13
July 11 2014 20:02 GMT
#26
On July 12 2014 04:32 Josh_Video wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:31 LongShot27 wrote:
The worst part about this, is none of them needed to do it, All three of these players are easily challenger level players and possibly premier in their regions. Don't break the rules kids.


Yeah, and IAsonu and Krr's cheating had NOTHING to do with WCS. Krr was cheating in a teamleague and IAsonu did not need the wins anyway, since he won the chinese qualifier.


If you read the post carefully, iAsonu was not suspended for getting himself wins but for helping XY get sufficient wins on NA server to participate in wildcard qualifier (XY is not currently qualified for Challenger).

In other words, he was suspended for helping XY cheat, not for cheating for his own benefit:

While iAsonu already held WCS Challenger status, he is not indemnified and was complicit in cheating.
Kevn23
Profile Joined December 2011
United States80 Posts
July 11 2014 20:12 GMT
#27
Blizzard got some summer interns hard at work? As a lot have already stated, ban them map hackers first if they have the resources.
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
July 11 2014 20:12 GMT
#28
On July 12 2014 05:02 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:32 Josh_Video wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:31 LongShot27 wrote:
The worst part about this, is none of them needed to do it, All three of these players are easily challenger level players and possibly premier in their regions. Don't break the rules kids.


Yeah, and IAsonu and Krr's cheating had NOTHING to do with WCS. Krr was cheating in a teamleague and IAsonu did not need the wins anyway, since he won the chinese qualifier.


If you read the post carefully, iAsonu was not suspended for getting himself wins but for helping XY get sufficient wins on NA server to participate in wildcard qualifier (XY is not currently qualified for Challenger).

In other words, he was suspended for helping XY cheat, not for cheating for his own benefit:

Show nested quote +
While iAsonu already held WCS Challenger status, he is not indemnified and was complicit in cheating.


Sorry, what I meant to say was that neither of these players cheated to get into WCS, and were disqualified for other reasons.
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 11 2014 20:12 GMT
#29
On July 12 2014 04:58 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:48 Paljas wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:41 xYc wrote:
Don't really understand, what SC2I has to do with WCS. Not that I like matchfixing, but can the rules be applied to unrelated competitions? Could they be applied to ... don't know ... Hearthstone cheating as well?

You don't understand what sc2 has to do with WCS?

try to read more carefully
he said sc2l

I saw that, I assumed it was a typo or the l stood was "ladder", either way I don't know what it means. Whether it's a typo, ladder or league, it still doesn't make sense.

it probably stands for SC2 Improve Team League

but you are right, the rest of his post is dubious as best. the rules are clear
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45338 Posts
July 11 2014 20:14 GMT
#30
Blizzard has found Krr to be in violation of the collusion and match fixing section ... iAsonu recently qualified for WCS America Season 3, and XY participated in the past WCS America events and the Americas server ladder. Players on the Americas server reported win trading between the two players


Why are these guys only suspended and not entirely excommunicated? Or will the community pretty much take care of that anyway? This is despicable.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 11 2014 20:14 GMT
#31
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 11 2014 20:19 GMT
#32
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


I second that question. They should at least make a statement about that.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 11 2014 20:23 GMT
#33
On July 12 2014 05:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
Blizzard has found Krr to be in violation of the collusion and match fixing section ... iAsonu recently qualified for WCS America Season 3, and XY participated in the past WCS America events and the Americas server ladder. Players on the Americas server reported win trading between the two players


Why are these guys only suspended and not entirely excommunicated? Or will the community pretty much take care of that anyway? This is despicable.

what? they traded some wins, which is bad, and suspending them for one season is an appropriate punishment.

demonizing them is not
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 11 2014 20:30 GMT
#34
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


which korean players? is there any proof?
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superpanda27
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
111 Posts
July 11 2014 20:34 GMT
#35
On July 12 2014 05:14 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
Blizzard has found Krr to be in violation of the collusion and match fixing section ... iAsonu recently qualified for WCS America Season 3, and XY participated in the past WCS America events and the Americas server ladder. Players on the Americas server reported win trading between the two players


Why are these guys only suspended and not entirely excommunicated? Or will the community pretty much take care of that anyway? This is despicable.


This the first instance of them doing this, they are being punished sufficiently for now. The second time they get caught doing this will be and should be a different story.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 11 2014 20:35 GMT
#36
On July 12 2014 05:30 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


which korean players? is there any proof?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/cipslay

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq7g2l

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq5o36

Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 20:37:45
July 11 2014 20:37 GMT
#37
On July 12 2014 04:34 Rehio wrote:
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On July 12 2014 04:25 Cokefreak wrote:
Can't have a week without drama...


Can it really be considered "Drama" when it's a professional response from a ruling authority about a violation of rules? Seems pretty standard, to me, nothing to be dramatic about.



Kinda curious about the spot being freed up in WCS EU. Why add it to the wildcard qualifier and not one of the EU Qualifiers?


Standard policy for every other time someone forfeits a spot in their WCS region - the extra spot always comes from the Wildcard. Did the same with Naniwa, Hack, Byul, and the Duckdeok retirement.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 11 2014 20:45 GMT
#38
On July 12 2014 04:25 Cokefreak wrote:
Can't have a week without drama...


Fortunately, this isn't really dramatic. Three people broke the rules and were punished accordingly. While sad and disappointing for the fans, it's hardly dramatic. I think Blizzard handled this well.
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xYc
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria75 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 20:52:23
July 11 2014 20:51 GMT
#39
On July 12 2014 05:12 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 04:58 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:48 Paljas wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:41 xYc wrote:
Don't really understand, what SC2I has to do with WCS. Not that I like matchfixing, but can the rules be applied to unrelated competitions? Could they be applied to ... don't know ... Hearthstone cheating as well?

You don't understand what sc2 has to do with WCS?

try to read more carefully
he said sc2l

I saw that, I assumed it was a typo or the l stood was "ladder", either way I don't know what it means. Whether it's a typo, ladder or league, it still doesn't make sense.

it probably stands for SC2 Improve Team League

but you are right, the rest of his post is dubious as best. the rules are clear


I guess they are referring to this rule:

Collusion and Match Fixing
–
Players are not allowed to intentionally alter the results of any match. If the organizer determines that a player is colluding or match fix ing, the player will be immediately disqualified and removed from the tournament and may be restricted from participating in future events.


I still don't understand where it says that the rules apply to competition that is not within the WCS system.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
July 11 2014 20:58 GMT
#40
On July 12 2014 05:51 xYc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:12 Paljas wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:58 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:48 Paljas wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:41 xYc wrote:
Don't really understand, what SC2I has to do with WCS. Not that I like matchfixing, but can the rules be applied to unrelated competitions? Could they be applied to ... don't know ... Hearthstone cheating as well?

You don't understand what sc2 has to do with WCS?

try to read more carefully
he said sc2l

I saw that, I assumed it was a typo or the l stood was "ladder", either way I don't know what it means. Whether it's a typo, ladder or league, it still doesn't make sense.

it probably stands for SC2 Improve Team League

but you are right, the rest of his post is dubious as best. the rules are clear


I guess they are referring to this rule:

Show nested quote +
Collusion and Match Fixing
–
Players are not allowed to intentionally alter the results of any match. If the organizer determines that a player is colluding or match fix ing, the player will be immediately disqualified and removed from the tournament and may be restricted from participating in future events.


I still don't understand where it says that the rules apply to competition that is not within the WCS system.


Semantics, but "any match" could be seen as implying it, though I don't know if there is anything in the rulebook that says the rules only apply to WCS events unless stated otherwise.
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