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Krr, iAsonu and XY suspended from WCS in 2014 - Page 3

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xYc
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria75 Posts
July 11 2014 21:00 GMT
#41
I can't find anything of the sort, but that is a long manual, so it could be in there of course.
superpanda27
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
111 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 21:06:11
July 11 2014 21:04 GMT
#42
On July 12 2014 05:51 xYc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:12 Paljas wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:58 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:48 Paljas wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:44 Zenbrez wrote:
On July 12 2014 04:41 xYc wrote:
Don't really understand, what SC2I has to do with WCS. Not that I like matchfixing, but can the rules be applied to unrelated competitions? Could they be applied to ... don't know ... Hearthstone cheating as well?

You don't understand what sc2 has to do with WCS?

try to read more carefully
he said sc2l

I saw that, I assumed it was a typo or the l stood was "ladder", either way I don't know what it means. Whether it's a typo, ladder or league, it still doesn't make sense.

it probably stands for SC2 Improve Team League

but you are right, the rest of his post is dubious as best. the rules are clear


I guess they are referring to this rule:

Show nested quote +
Collusion and Match Fixing
–
Players are not allowed to intentionally alter the results of any match. If the organizer determines that a player is colluding or match fix ing, the player will be immediately disqualified and removed from the tournament and may be restricted from participating in future events.


I still don't understand where it says that the rules apply to competition that is not within the WCS system.


Krr is a participant of WCS, so I'm guessing in ANY competition he is part of, he is being kept to the WCS player code of conduct. And I'm also guessing that SC2ITL is a Blizzard sanctioned event so it can also fall under Blizzard's jurisdiction when the offender is a WCS participant. SC2ITL will likely also be handing out a punishment to Krr in terms of partaking in the SC2ITL.

edit: Blizzard is making, I think is making a clear statement, that any cheating found in any other competition will also hinder that participants chance's in WCS.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 21:17:15
July 11 2014 21:15 GMT
#43
the fuq? Why did XY win trade? Completely unnecessary for someone from iG :<
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
July 11 2014 21:38 GMT
#44
Really stupid of XY. I wanted to see him play in WCS AM and didn't need to win trade to get there - but now he has rightfully been barred from playing this season. Good call by Blizz, but still disappointing
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 11 2014 21:43 GMT
#45
On July 12 2014 05:35 Dodgin wrote:
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On July 12 2014 05:30 nkr wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


which korean players? is there any proof?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/cipslay

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq7g2l

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq5o36




I'm curious if this has even been brought to blizzard's attention
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
July 11 2014 21:51 GMT
#46
On July 12 2014 06:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:35 Dodgin wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:30 nkr wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


which korean players? is there any proof?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/cipslay

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq7g2l

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq5o36




I'm curious if this has even been brought to blizzard's attention


I wanna see the screenshots of the alleged "admin" that knew about it but didn't care.
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
July 11 2014 21:52 GMT
#47
On July 12 2014 06:43 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 05:35 Dodgin wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:30 nkr wrote:
On July 12 2014 05:14 Dodgin wrote:
They're just going to ignore the Korean players who did this last season?


which korean players? is there any proof?


http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/cipslay

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq7g2l

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/29ypsg/update_on_ig_win_trading_situation/ciq5o36




I'm curious if this has even been brought to blizzard's attention

Win trades were rampant for the 200 wins and I think the blizz admins were aware but didn't do anything. Even if someone can dig up match history from before and compile a report, I doubt blizz will bar those players since they didn't do it this season (and for this season Neige/Curious was only screencap of 1 game). The ruling will probably help set an example to discourage others who have win traded or plan to for next season.
very illegal and very uncool
Socup
Profile Joined June 2014
190 Posts
July 11 2014 22:13 GMT
#48
On July 12 2014 04:41 xYc wrote:
Don't really understand, what SC2I has to do with WCS. Not that I like matchfixing, but can the rules be applied to unrelated competitions? Could they be applied to ... don't know ... Hearthstone cheating as well?


That's the thing that worries me more, Blizzard acting like an external policing force for unrelated tournaments.
There's no reason blizzard can't release new units or fixes to a game without creating another costly "expansion" you've already paid 100$ for, unless they want to treadmill the gambler with future promises of "it gets better"
bosshd
Profile Blog Joined February 2014
Belgium72 Posts
July 11 2014 22:15 GMT
#49
good away with the cheaters!
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
July 11 2014 22:15 GMT
#50
Didnt Blizzard the announcement of 200 wins only 2 weeks before the qualifiers? No wonder that some guys were shocked about it and went panic mode.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17079 Posts
July 11 2014 22:16 GMT
#51
i fear the day when Blizzard determines its not worth their valuable time to chase around these sorts of idiots and ban them.
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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 11 2014 22:18 GMT
#52
On July 12 2014 07:15 Dingodile wrote:
Didnt Blizzard the announcement of 200 wins only 2 weeks before the qualifiers? No wonder that some guys were shocked about it and went panic mode.


That was 2 seasons ago, and they compensated for that in Season 1 by allowing for combined win totals.
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mongmong
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)1389 Posts
July 11 2014 22:38 GMT
#53
hahaha great job blizzard
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OGzan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States289 Posts
July 11 2014 22:50 GMT
#54
Good, people complain about the integrity of NA ladder and having people win trading doesn't help the scene.
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Socup
Profile Joined June 2014
190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 23:07:30
July 11 2014 23:01 GMT
#55
On July 12 2014 07:50 OGzan wrote:
Good, people complain about the integrity of NA ladder and having people win trading doesn't help the scene.


I think Korean ladder is in shambles if you want to get technical. Silvers and golds are typically "as good" as dia/master Americas. NA doesn't exist on it's own any more, remember south, central, and north america were all merged. You should check out gold league games on KR/TW. Decision making, build execution, micro, and macro seem every bit as good as dia/master on NA. I highly doubt that it's some weird from another planet scenario where they are naturally that good as a whole, it seems much more likely off-racing pros and such.

Forgot to mention they use all of the best stuff: early oracle play, blink stalker all ins, immortal all ins, bling/ling busts, MASS muta with ling/bling play, etc.
There's no reason blizzard can't release new units or fixes to a game without creating another costly "expansion" you've already paid 100$ for, unless they want to treadmill the gambler with future promises of "it gets better"
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
July 11 2014 23:05 GMT
#56
On July 12 2014 08:01 Socup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 07:50 OGzan wrote:
Good, people complain about the integrity of NA ladder and having people win trading doesn't help the scene.


I think Korean ladder is in shambles if you want to get technical. Silvers and golds are typically "as good" as dia/master Americas. NA doesn't exist on it's own any more, remember south, central, and north america were all merged. You should check out gold league games on KR/TW. Decision making, build execution, micro, and macro seem every bit as good as dia/master on NA. I highly doubt that it's some weird from another planet scenario where they are naturally that good as a whole, it seems much more likely off-racing pros and such.


as some 1 who is diamond on kor/am/eu. i disagree with u
Stimin myself on a daily basis
Socup
Profile Joined June 2014
190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-11 23:09:29
July 11 2014 23:08 GMT
#57
On July 12 2014 08:05 KingFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 08:01 Socup wrote:
On July 12 2014 07:50 OGzan wrote:
Good, people complain about the integrity of NA ladder and having people win trading doesn't help the scene.


I think Korean ladder is in shambles if you want to get technical. Silvers and golds are typically "as good" as dia/master Americas. NA doesn't exist on it's own any more, remember south, central, and north america were all merged. You should check out gold league games on KR/TW. Decision making, build execution, micro, and macro seem every bit as good as dia/master on NA. I highly doubt that it's some weird from another planet scenario where they are naturally that good as a whole, it seems much more likely off-racing pros and such.


as some 1 who is diamond on kor/am/eu. i disagree with u


As some1 who is master Amer, diam eu, and diam kor, I disagree with your disagreement. Gold level play is dozens of leagues below the same gold in KR/TW
There's no reason blizzard can't release new units or fixes to a game without creating another costly "expansion" you've already paid 100$ for, unless they want to treadmill the gambler with future promises of "it gets better"
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
July 11 2014 23:11 GMT
#58
On July 12 2014 08:08 Socup wrote:

As some1 who is master Amer, diam eu, and diam kor, I disagree with your disagreement. Gold level play is dozens of leagues below the same gold in KR/TW


"Silvers and golds are typically "as good" as dia/master Americas"

"except when its me" ?
Stimin myself on a daily basis
Socup
Profile Joined June 2014
190 Posts
July 11 2014 23:24 GMT
#59
Listen, when I climbed up from silver in KR, there were some people who were what you'd expect. Bad macro, all in, no real skill after the deadly build order push. However there's another group of gold/low plat players. People who's macro is what you see in pro games, who's upgrades and decisions are "pro status".

You obviously don't play very much KR ladder.
There's no reason blizzard can't release new units or fixes to a game without creating another costly "expansion" you've already paid 100$ for, unless they want to treadmill the gambler with future promises of "it gets better"
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
July 11 2014 23:27 GMT
#60
On July 12 2014 08:24 Socup wrote:
Listen, when I climbed up from silver in KR, there were some people who were what you'd expect. Bad macro, all in, no real skill after the deadly build order push. However there's another group of gold/low plat players. People who's macro is what you see in pro games, who's upgrades and decisions are "pro status".

You obviously don't play very much KR ladder.

If their macro, upgrades, and decisions are pro status, then why in the world would they be stuck in gold or platinum?!
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