In retrospect, the GSL semi-finals have almost proven to almost always be more full-fledged than the actual finals. Taking a stroll down memory lane, we have a plethora of perfect examples demonstrating this phenomenon, one of them being GSL Season 5 of 2012. This was a time of which the dreaded BL/Infestor composition was at its height and also the only GSL playoffs not played in Korea. Taking place at IPL5 in Las Vegas, we were treated to a series of very exciting semi-final matches featuring the players HyuN vs INnoVation and Ryung vs Sniper. Almost everyone was hoping for a non-ZvZ final to break the recent Zerg-heavy trend but, since Innovation had not yet activated god mode and Ryung was unable to finish off the eventual champion Sniper (notoriously provoking Ryung's closing comment "IMBAIMBAIMBAIMBA"), the eventual ZvZ finals looked both uninteresting and bland. With the semi-finals having been so good with the four participants playing their hearts out for the Las Vegas crowd, it seemed almost impossible that the finals could topple the semis in quality and in hype. That Hyun vs Sniper actually did manage to live up to, and perhaps even outshine, the level of play in the semis is a fact many people forgot the moment the finals ended.
There are number of different exciting possible outcomes from this first semi-finals match. This will either be the first GSL finals with a Terran player in it since WCS Season 1 Korea in 2013 or the third PvZ GSL finals in a row along with the potential of another GSL Protoss Champion (also third in a row). Traditionally the GSL has been famous for its Terran finalists and its lack of Protoss champions. However, since the release of HotS and the balance changes that followed, Terrans have struggled quite a bit against both races. In fact, this season only hosted a lackluster number of 4 Terran players, one of them of course being Maru.
But what this really shows is that having a Terran player in the finals of a GSL once again would not only be refreshing, but also perhaps something the Korean scene needs. Luckily for the fans, if any Terran player were to make it to the finals it would be Maru. Over the past year he has proven himself, again and again, as both one of the best Terrans in the world, and one of the most entertaining players to boot. Maru has been an invaluable asset in Jin Air Green Wings's Proleague campaign and currently ties RorO for fourth place. Add in the round playoffs' all-kill format, and Maru sits atop the rankings alongside the formidable CJ_herO.
Ever since Maru's unexpected OSL championship back in 2013, Maru (whilst still being on Prime) has claimed four Round of 4 finishes in WCS/GSL events. Another semi-finals loss here would almost put him up with the likes of Jaedong, despite facing generally tougher opposition for much of the year. Maru, who despite his tender age is a true GSL veteran, doubtlessly has the potential to finally claim a GSL trophy this season. Since no more Terrans remain in the tournament beyond Maru, the bracket is set for a championship that feels long overdue.
Over the past couple of months, Maru has received many opportunities to play against top players of all races, and even though his TvT record is his best match-up statistically, he most likely feels more confident playing against Protoss. Looking at Maru's match history and his attitude towards the semi-finals, Maru has won series against both Zest and a veritable who's who of Korea's top Protosses and is both happy and excited to once again be in the spotlight of the GSL floor. While other Terrans have struggled and fallen, Maru is a Terran star that keeps shining. The only thing that could foreseeably be cause for worry is his recent complaints about his wrists - the bane of all Terrans. I suppose, if Maru wants to join the ranks of legendary Terran champions such as Taeja in SC2 or Flash in BW, wrist pain comes as an unfortunate but unavoidable complement. Hopefully for Maru, his wrists have not yet devolved to the point where they can cause him real trouble against Classic, but it is a risk worth taking into account, if not now then at least in the future.
In comparison with Maru, whose four years of tournament experience makes him a grizzled veteran in SC2, Classic actually makes his debut appearance in a semi-finals. His current road to the semi-finals has involved multiple team kills and many PvZ's while not really testing his PvT. If you do not follow Proleague, Classic is a new face that you would be wise to remember. He has made few appearances outside Proleague, thus preventing foreign fans from learning much about him. But don't fret! I'm here to tell you that he's awesome. Since his abrupt switch from Terran to Protoss last season, Classic has had a surge of success. He qualified for IEM Cologne by beating a long list of top players and has been one of the best performing Protosses in Proleague for months.
However, Classic's match history however shows that he rarely plays televised PvT games. Whether this is due to the fact that his team deliberately avoids sending him out in situations where he might come to face a Terran or if it's due to the current general lack of successful Terran players within Korea is a question worth asking. Statistically, Classic has recently played many PvZ and PvP games to fairly great success, beating players like Hydra, PartinG, double GSL runner-up soO and most recently ParalyzE so there is little question he has the potential to do well in the finals, whichever opponent he'd come to face, if he were to make it that far. But first he must pass one of Korea's top Terrans in Maru in his first true display of PvT skill. Does he have what it takes to take on Maru? It'll be interesting to see.
Of course, being an SKT Protoss, Classic has a momentous legacy he must prove that he can live up to, and with players like BrAvO and FanTaSy on his team he'll most likely be decently prepared for this upcoming match. Neither of them of Maru's caliber, but by no means pushovers. Classic is good enough that Maru bringing his A-game is an absolute requirement. Maru does have the advantage of having sOs as a potential practice partner, but his post-match interview after the quarterfinals made it seem as though last minute prepartion works the best for the young prodigy. With a heavy focus on Proleague, Jin Air need their gold star player to be in top-notch shape and prepared to come out as their ace as sOs has had a sub-par day. This means that Maru has to bear the burden of both being the ace player for his team and playing a GSL semi-finals, something not many can handle and be successful with. It remains to be seen if Maru can.
Overall Thoughts and Predictions:
This isn't the first time that these players have faced each other in the GSL. Back in February, they squared off in the Ro32 of Code S where Classic promptly advanced in first place in lieu of Maru, defeating him 2-0 in the first match. A lot can change in 4 months, however, and a quick look at Aligulac bucks the common conception that PvT is heavily Protoss favored. In fact, Maru is 19-10 in TvP since his loss to Classic, despite being on a 2 game losing streak. Classic, on the other hand, has barely faced a terran since their last meeting. He is 2-2, with his last PvT almost a month ago. At first glance it appears that Maru has all the momentum in the matchup, but the abundance of Protoss and the lack of Terrans in Proleague and Code S have been key in their disparate records; there's arguably little to gain from only looking at numbers.
Despite Maru's age, he should also be considered the veteran of the two, at least in individual leagues. He has been around since the GSL Open Seasons, has been a staple on Prime's roster for years and has contributed more to the success of the Terran race in Korea than any other player since Mvp. This wealth of experience will aid him in his mental preparations heading into a Best of 7, something Classic has yet to feel. This is a distinct advantage that shouldn't be overlooked, even though Classic should have the great minds of SKT T1's veterans behind him.
Two years have passed since a Terran last held up the GSL Trophy, and for many the current dearth of Dominion forces in Code S has to be considered some of the darkest times the race has experienced. It feels like an eternity since Mvp defied the will of Aiur to claim an unlikely title for Terran. Will Maru finally be the boy, nay, the man that succeeds the King of Wings? While destiny seems to be on the side of the young Prince of Marines, Classic has slowly become the next successor to the SKT T1 Protoss lineage where the likes of PartinG and Rain (at least in Code S) have failed. Only one will reach the final, and we think it's time for the prodigy to continue his legend.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
What do you expect after season 1 with 3 terrans and season 2 with only 4, out of 32 players
Especially when there's always been a Terran bias within the community, if not an overwhelming one. There's more emphasis put on the Terran race playing than any others, regardless of balance at the time. It's just how it's always been and probably always will be, and it seems like people in general are okay with that (or at least, don't show signs otherwise), for better or worse.
On June 18 2014 05:35 SixStrings wrote: Classic is a new face? I thought he was an old BW pro, like Stork.
Much less known than Stork, and not everyone watched Brood War. For a BW fan, he's unlikely to be a new face, but for someone who doesn't really follow Proleague or religiously tune in to every GSL match, chances are he's not that well known.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
What do you expect after season 1 with 3 terrans and season 2 with only 4, out of 32 players
Especially when there's always been a Terran bias within the community, if not an overwhelming one. There's more emphasis put on the Terran race playing than any others, regardless of balance at the time. It's just how it's always been and probably always will be, and it seems like people in general are okay with that (or at least, don't show signs otherwise), for better or worse.
I think thats because a lot of SC2's champions are terran, a lot of fan favorites are terran, terran's seem to produce epic games whenever, with a large amount of the community citing TvT or TvZ as their favorite matchups to watch.
On June 18 2014 05:32 Xoronius wrote: I hope Maru takes it, if there is one thing, we don't need, it is three protoss royal roaders in a row. I'm just hoping for some consistency.
This isn't actually Classic's first time in Code S, so he cannot be a royal roader.. He is still fairly new to Code S, but this isn't his first time.
On June 18 2014 05:35 SixStrings wrote: Classic is a new face? I thought he was an old BW pro, like Stork.
Much less known than Stork, and not everyone watched Brood War. For a BW fan, he's unlikely to be a new face, but for someone who doesn't really follow Proleague or religiously tune in to every GSL match, chances are he's not that well known.
Oh come on, classic's face is the last bastion of the once proud Chin line (kal, stats, um others I forgot)
On June 18 2014 05:35 SixStrings wrote: Classic is a new face? I thought he was an old BW pro, like Stork.
Much less known than Stork, and not everyone watched Brood War. For a BW fan, he's unlikely to be a new face, but for someone who doesn't really follow Proleague or religiously tune in to every GSL match, chances are he's not that well known.
Oh, I didn't follow BW.
I didn't want to critique the article, I legitimately didn't know.
On June 18 2014 05:35 SixStrings wrote: Classic is a new face? I thought he was an old BW pro, like Stork.
Much less known than Stork, and not everyone watched Brood War. For a BW fan, he's unlikely to be a new face, but for someone who doesn't really follow Proleague or religiously tune in to every GSL match, chances are he's not that well known.
Oh come on, classic's face is the last bastion of the once proud Chin line (kal, stats, um others I forgot)
If you do not follow Proleague, Classic is a new face that you would be wise to remember.
Haha, dude's been playing in Proleague since eSTRO existed.
Does that change anything?
Yes, the implication of that sentence is that Classic is a new face in Proleague. I suppose if English was not your first language it might be reasonable to assume that you would glean something like "Classic will be a new face to those who do not watch Proleague" though.
If you do not follow Proleague, Classic is a new face that you would be wise to remember.
Haha, dude's been playing in Proleague since eSTRO existed.
Does that change anything?
Yes, the implication of that sentence is that Classic is a new face in Proleague. I suppose if English was not your first language it might be reasonable to assume that you would glean something like "Classic will be a new face to those who do not watch Proleague" though.
Yeah, I guess the sentence is poorly worded; I can see where you're coming from, but I certainly don't think all English native speakers would read that sentence the way you do, if not merely because everybody knows Classic already lol.
In any case let's hope the meteoric rise of the Chintoss claims another unsuspecting victim.
"Back in February, they squared off in the Ro32 of Code S where Classic promptly advanced in first place in lieu of Maru, defeating him 2-0 in the winner's match."
This is wrong, the winner's match of Group F was Classic vs Hydra.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
What do you expect after season 1 with 3 terrans and season 2 with only 4, out of 32 players
Especially when there's always been a Terran bias within the community, if not an overwhelming one. There's more emphasis put on the Terran race playing than any others, regardless of balance at the time. It's just how it's always been and probably always will be, and it seems like people in general are okay with that (or at least, don't show signs otherwise), for better or worse.
I think thats because a lot of SC2's champions are terran, a lot of fan favorites are terran, terran's seem to produce epic games whenever, with a large amount of the community citing TvT or TvZ as their favorite matchups to watch.
That seems like a double standard to me. All of SC2's Terran champions were crowned during the 2011 era, when Terran was undoubtedly favored in both non-mirror matchups, and yet they are adored. Now, Terran isn't so strong, but we seem to not give the winners from the other races the same respect. Things like this in articles disappoint me:
But what this really shows is that having a Terran player in the finals of a GSL once again would not only be refreshing, but also perhaps something the Korean scene needs.
Is there actually some reason for this? Last I heard viewership of SC2 in Korea was going up.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
What do you expect after season 1 with 3 terrans and season 2 with only 4, out of 32 players
Especially when there's always been a Terran bias within the community, if not an overwhelming one. There's more emphasis put on the Terran race playing than any others, regardless of balance at the time. It's just how it's always been and probably always will be, and it seems like people in general are okay with that (or at least, don't show signs otherwise), for better or worse.
I think thats because a lot of SC2's champions are terran, a lot of fan favorites are terran, terran's seem to produce epic games whenever, with a large amount of the community citing TvT or TvZ as their favorite matchups to watch.
That seems like a double standard to me. All of SC2's Terran champions were crowned during the 2011 era, when Terran was undoubtedly favored in both non-mirror matchups, and yet they are adored. Now, Terran isn't so strong, but we seem to not give the winners from the other races the same respect. Things like this in articles disappoint me:
But what this really shows is that having a Terran player in the finals of a GSL once again would not only be refreshing, but also perhaps something the Korean scene needs.
Is there actually some reason for this? Last I heard viewership of SC2 in Korea was going up.
Korean scene needs Jaedong, Flash and Stork to crush all other
On June 18 2014 07:44 Kyyuna wrote: I'd love to have Maru win just because KT failed to bring in another gold for their shelf, and SKT MUST NOT WIN
haha yes gogo Jin Air players!
Now that I think of it, for me the ideal scenario would be Maru beating Classic, TRUE beating soO, and finally TRUE 4-0'ing Maru in the most infuriating way possible (massing banelings 4 times in a row!).
A possible explanation for the Terran bias would be that raw skill is more apparent. It has clear micro and multitasking, while also being the human race. Zerg has always been my best race, but I have always rooted for Terran (and some Zerg).
Go Maru! Definitely the more talented player here!
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
Haha you're absolutely right, don't give in to the Terran boringness. Hell, I'll cheer for Maru (not sure he's playing Terran at this point, looks way too godly on the battlefield)
Edit: But I think Classic will win anyway. He has all the might of the SKT Protoss behind him to craft some good cheeses and timings.
On June 18 2014 09:17 SC2BF3Love wrote: question and sorry for being ignorant, why Terran players are more likely to sufer from wrists?
Terran is generally a more mechanically demanding race to play. Many Terran players play with a higher APM than the average, which can be very punishing for the wrists.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
Haha you're absolutely right, don't give in to the Terran boringness. Hell, I'll cheer for Maru (not sure he's playing Terran at this point, looks way too godly on the battlefield)
Edit: But I think Classic will win anyway. He has all the might of the SKT Protoss behind him to craft some good cheeses and timings.
normally I would cheer for Maru even through I almost never cheer for terrans (I really dislike taeja for instance..). But considering this whole caster bias bullshit I will cheer for Classic I think.
I remember the first innovation's good run in GSL Tasteless and Artosis were calling him the best RTS player of all time. I think that's really disrespectful. When sOs won blizzcon it was the same thing (reinveting the meta when he actually just prepared some cannon rush builds). There are many other examples.
Either way I hope soO wins everything, he's the one that deserves the most.
I have no idea whose gonna win, but in 5hrs 32 min this will be epic. I don't think Maru can take him in straight up macro. It's going to come down to mine drops, helion runbys, and doom drops.
On June 18 2014 13:01 Popkiller wrote: anyone know if Classic hits timings vs. Terran or takes it late game?
Seems a lot more macro-oriented to me. I'd say the latter, but like most contemporary players in general he ofc mixes it up. He's not really an MC or anything.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
What do you expect after season 1 with 3 terrans and season 2 with only 4, out of 32 players
Especially when there's always been a Terran bias within the community, if not an overwhelming one. There's more emphasis put on the Terran race playing than any others, regardless of balance at the time. It's just how it's always been and probably always will be, and it seems like people in general are okay with that (or at least, don't show signs otherwise), for better or worse.
I think thats because a lot of SC2's champions are terran, a lot of fan favorites are terran, terran's seem to produce epic games whenever, with a large amount of the community citing TvT or TvZ as their favorite matchups to watch.
WHO SAID THAT ? TvT naaaaah pls, so boring to watch. Obviously, TvZ is very very funny but TvT. -_-
I don't understand how people can dislike Maru! He's so adorable. Sure, he cheeses a bit but he can still play really well in normal games. He does what it takes to win!
On June 18 2014 09:17 SC2BF3Love wrote: question and sorry for being ignorant, why Terran players are more likely to sufer from wrists?
About as many terrans and zergs have wrists problems. Both are very APM heavy.
some names come to mind: taeja, maru, TLO, sheth, scarlett
Mvp king of wings and wrist issues
spine issues*
*cervical disc issues
which is in the spine so yeah
pretty sure i'd be afraid if my doc said "you have spine issues" and just shrugged his shoulders if i asked him where
for the average person you'd probably tell them they had spine issues in the neck rather than cervical disc radiculopathy, there's value in dumbing things down
On June 18 2014 09:17 SC2BF3Love wrote: question and sorry for being ignorant, why Terran players are more likely to sufer from wrists?
About as many terrans and zergs have wrists problems. Both are very APM heavy.
some names come to mind: taeja, maru, TLO, sheth, scarlett
Mvp king of wings and wrist issues
spine issues*
*cervical disc issues
which is in the spine so yeah
pretty sure i'd be afraid if my doc said "you have spine issues" and just shrugged his shoulders if i asked him where
for the average person you'd probably tell them they had spine issues in the neck rather than cervical disc radiculopathy, there's value in dumbing things down
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
What do you expect after season 1 with 3 terrans and season 2 with only 4, out of 32 players
Especially when there's always been a Terran bias within the community, if not an overwhelming one. There's more emphasis put on the Terran race playing than any others, regardless of balance at the time. It's just how it's always been and probably always will be, and it seems like people in general are okay with that (or at least, don't show signs otherwise), for better or worse.
I think thats because a lot of SC2's champions are terran, a lot of fan favorites are terran, terran's seem to produce epic games whenever, with a large amount of the community citing TvT or TvZ as their favorite matchups to watch.
WHO SAID THAT ? TvT naaaaah pls, so boring to watch. Obviously, TvZ is very very funny but TvT. -_-
Quite a few.
A TvT has won game of the year 2 years in a row by the TL staff (though personally, I strongly disagree with the 2013 choice).
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.
He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.
"I suppose, if Maru wants to join the ranks of legendary Terran champions such as Taeja in SC2 or Flash in BW, wrist pain comes as an unfortunate but unavoidable complement."
On June 18 2014 18:58 aTnClouD wrote: Sorry if this has been asked before, does Artosis not work with GSL anymore? I loved the cast today, just asking out of curiosity.
He still works for Gom, but also does other stuff besides casting GSL.
On June 18 2014 16:08 Faust852 wrote: For Sheth, it's more his really poor posture that led to his injuries (keyboard on laps, wtf).
Did you follow Quake? Cooller was for ~10years one of the world best player at quake3 & quake4 and his keyboard was always on laps. Edit: He stopped Fatality domination.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.
He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.
He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.
but hes not as solid as Taeja
I like Taeja.... Im not sure if he would have the success he's had if he was playing in SPL or GSL... just my opinion.
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.
He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.
but hes not as solid as Taeja
Taeja plays in a much easier region and environment. Teaja does not hit players like Zest, or any of the top SKT1 protosses.
I have hard time believing Teaja would even make it past round of 32 in code S if he returned to Korea region.
Really annoying saying " look at Teaja and polt terrans doing good" Can't compare them, they are owning lesser Koreans outside of Korea and NA/EU players in their WCS groups.
Maru is prob the most solid overall Terran in the world......
On June 18 2014 05:18 silvana wrote: everywhere I go (read) "Terran this" "Terran that"... hell, I'll cheer for Classic.
I know, I agree, but...
Maru plays like a madman! His stuff is just insanely wonderful to watch, he's not just another boring Terran who just "cannot" attack in early game. Maru attacks, wins and looks like he doesn't even care
As much as I don't like TvX and find it pretty boring, because all the time all the same, I love how unpredictable Maru is
Exactly. Maru's Terran is something special! He always brings something interesting to the table.
He's like an integration and culmination of all terrans before him. The micro of MKP, the strategising and balls of Mvp and the multitasking of MMA. Its almost like he's the Cell of SC2.
but hes not as solid as Taeja
Taeja plays in a much easier region and environment. Teaja does not hit players like Zest, or any of the top SKT1 protosses.
I have hard time believing Teaja would even make it past round of 32 in code S if he returned to Korea region.
Really annoying saying " look at Teaja and polt terrans doing good" Can't compare them, they are owning lesser Koreans outside of Korea and NA/EU players in their WCS groups.
Maru is prob the most solid overall Terran in the world......
While all you say is true, that doesn't explain a perfect run in a Major Tournament like Dreamhack, where he had a 17-0 Mapscore. Even the best player should lose 1 or 2 maps to cheese or misread or whatever.
While all you say is true, that doesn't explain a perfect run in a Major Tournament like Dreamhack, where he had a 17-0 Mapscore. Even the best player should lose 1 or 2 maps to cheese or misread or whatever.
Taeja was playing against inferior competition, what is so hard to understand.
While all you say is true, that doesn't explain a perfect run in a Major Tournament like Dreamhack, where he had a 17-0 Mapscore. Even the best player should lose 1 or 2 maps to cheese or misread or whatever.
Taeja was playing against inferior competition, what is so hard to understand.
The average tournament viewer doesn't like looking at the rosters of tournaments such as Dreamhack and being told that level of play there is basically equivalent to Code A (and not Code S), even if it's accurate, and that one of their favorite players (if not favorite, considering these forums) would not look nearly as "dominating" in a different region, even if it's accurate.
Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.
And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)
Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.
And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)
if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.
Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.
And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)
if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.
Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.
And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)
if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.
We need a GSL every month, then :D
I think its better to have more competitions than just having GSL over and over again. Remember at the peak of BW there were OSL, MSL and GomTV invitationals/showmatches? That would help players staying in Korea much more. Recent Shoutcraft Invitational was really good, helped top tier Korean players show off their skills, and such. Another thing that can help korean scene would be to have foreign tournaments have fully paid/sponsored trips for the players (hint hint HSC), but then this would be kinda too expensive and even when its implemented it would only be for top 1/2 players of the qualifier, so it will still be hard for newer players to get exposure.
Or maybe even having SCII scene in China grow, and have some chinese tournaments might help Korean scene more too. Its much cheaper to travel to china for tournaments than to go all the way to NA or europe, and probably will allow more Korean players to go overseas for competitions.
Which means he should consider giving GSL another try, don't you think? Because this dreamhack had something very close to the best players competing outside Korea In my opinion he should be facing players like soO, Soulkey, Maru, Zest or herO, not foreigners or exiled Koreans.
And it would be great to see more than one Terran in the Ro8 =)
if u are winning so much in foreign events why go back to korea? GSL is too volatile, u fuck up one match in Code A and u will receive no attention for 3 months until the next season.
We need a GSL every month, then :D
I think its better to have more competitions than just having GSL over and over again. Remember at the peak of BW there were OSL, MSL and GomTV invitationals/showmatches? That would help players staying in Korea much more. Recent Shoutcraft Invitational was really good, helped top tier Korean players show off their skills, and such. Another thing that can help korean scene would be to have foreign tournaments have fully paid/sponsored trips for the players (hint hint HSC), but then this would be kinda too expensive and even when its implemented it would only be for top 1/2 players of the qualifier, so it will still be hard for newer players to get exposure.
Or maybe even having SCII scene in China grow, and have some chinese tournaments might help Korean scene more too. Its much cheaper to travel to china for tournaments than to go all the way to NA or europe, and probably will allow more Korean players to go overseas for competitions.
I totally agree, more tournaments in Korea would be better than monthly GSL. If TB manages to make Shoutcraft KR a regular thing, it's a good start and maybe it encourages other organizations to host their own tourneys too.
I don't think that having the trip to western tournaments fully paid would help that much, because I think the main reason for the players not attending is PL, at least for the key players (which are the ones we want to see). For example, Roro and TY went to DH due to the top ranked players not accepting the offer. But you are right about the scene growing in China would help too. Again, TB showed us in the Shoutcraft post mortem than, as a tournament organizer, you HAVE to include China.
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CJ_herO. 
He's so adorable. Sure, he cheeses a bit but he can still play really well in normal games. He does what it takes to win!
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is still the best ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png)
