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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 22:30:55
June 13 2014 22:26 GMT
#141
On June 14 2014 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
I remember that one time Kespa players went to dreamhack and won the whole thing for free

Yeah TY, RorO, Flash, sOsx2 are all still counting all their free dreamhack money.

OH WAIT NO. sOs got Ro8 at Bucharest, 9th-12th at DH Winter, TY got Ro16 before he was beaten by (wait for it) MC at Bucharest this year, and RorO and Flash both failed to make top 16, meaning they got outperformed by several foreigners.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
June 13 2014 22:28 GMT
#142
I wonder if it's the travel/jet lag or if Kespa players just look at non-GSL/SPL tournaments like vacations and don't care how they do.

If Dreamhack went to Seoul, for example, what would the results look like?
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
June 13 2014 22:31 GMT
#143
On June 14 2014 07:28 Popkiller wrote:
I wonder if it's the travel/jet lag or if Kespa players just look at non-GSL/SPL tournaments like vacations and don't care how they do.

If Dreamhack went to Seoul, for example, what would the results look like?

I can virtually guarantee that this one is not the case. One look at Flash's face post DH elimination can tell you that.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 22:33:22
June 13 2014 22:32 GMT
#144
On June 14 2014 07:28 Popkiller wrote:
I wonder if it's the travel/jet lag or if Kespa players just look at non-GSL/SPL tournaments like vacations and don't care how they do.

If Dreamhack went to Seoul, for example, what would the results look like?


no time too; no free rides? I don't know. If we look at MLG's listing it's just as weak as this now and it is what it is. If I watch anything it will be the semis/finals if I have time.

On June 14 2014 07:31 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 07:28 Popkiller wrote:
I wonder if it's the travel/jet lag or if Kespa players just look at non-GSL/SPL tournaments like vacations and don't care how they do.

If Dreamhack went to Seoul, for example, what would the results look like?

I can virtually guarantee that this one is not the case. One look at Flash's face post DH elimination can tell you that.


Flash really hasn't done crap individually yet though to be frank.
Beastgief
Profile Joined June 2014
United States34 Posts
June 13 2014 22:32 GMT
#145
On June 14 2014 07:28 Popkiller wrote:
I wonder if it's the travel/jet lag or if Kespa players just look at non-GSL/SPL tournaments like vacations and don't care how they do.

If Dreamhack went to Seoul, for example, what would the results look like?



HAHA, oh god... that would be a massacre
Waylander
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
June 13 2014 22:41 GMT
#146
ShoWTimE behind DeMusliM?
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
June 13 2014 22:42 GMT
#147
On June 14 2014 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
I remember that one time Kespa players went to dreamhack and won the whole thing for free

oh this is funny, it was actually MC who knocked out TY at the previous dreamhack.


Happy this was said. Let these guys tell it and Kespa players always win.. but the reality is that when these guys come to play with the rest of the world, they get bopped by the likes of Taeja, Polt, MC and even foreigners.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
June 13 2014 22:53 GMT
#148
On June 14 2014 07:42 kaykoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
I remember that one time Kespa players went to dreamhack and won the whole thing for free

oh this is funny, it was actually MC who knocked out TY at the previous dreamhack.


Happy this was said. Let these guys tell it and Kespa players always win.. but the reality is that when these guys come to play with the rest of the world, they get bopped by the likes of Taeja, Polt, MC and even foreigners.

I think we need to see more kespa vs non-kespa interaction to gain a better point of view. Last weekend gave of a very strong KT/CJ representation at Sandisk, but also a very weak Samsung showing at HSC. Especially Bomber made Stork look leagues under him, IIRC.
Jonas :)
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States511 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 00:03:05
June 14 2014 00:02 GMT
#149
Power Ranking is back! Yes!

In the writeup about Snute it says

However on a good day, he's more than capable of plowing through players such as Welmu, Yoda, Jjakji, First and even MC, all of whom will be playing here at this Dreamhack.


However, this is an error. Welmu is not on the player list for Dreamhack
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-14 00:17:10
June 14 2014 00:16 GMT
#150
ABomB 2-0 Bbyong. Never forget.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
June 14 2014 00:32 GMT
#151
I remember that Dreamhack where Axiom sent Impact along for some reason and he got knocked out in the group stage by a player ten times better than him.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
heartlxp
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1258 Posts
June 14 2014 00:48 GMT
#152
On June 14 2014 03:50 Muffloe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2014 03:15 heartlxp wrote:
On June 14 2014 03:01 dirtclodmcgee wrote:
MC is like #15, he lucks out a lot of the time owing to the inherent gimmickiness of protoss...he does us a disservice in cheesing his way deep into tourneys as he just spoils what could have been good series by eventually getting stomped so hard becuz his cheese can only carry him so far (see HSC IX final). i used to like him but now i dread every time he gets remotely deep in a tourney


eheh this is how i've felt about MC for 3 yrs, never understood his fans

How can you luck out for 3 years straight? Also, I've seen some independent finals ranking with MC - PuMa at IEM as nr. 1. Just putting that out there

But maybe you are right, and we should be cutting him by the caps for making a bad finals at HSC


MC is great at Protoss vs foreigners, because foreigners can't hold all-ins. Unfortunately it's worthless vs any decent player, so he doesn't even try to make an attempt in the GSL these days.

I didn't even watch HSC (saw the 0-4 score and was quite surprised). To me, MC/Stardust/duck2/Toss123 in the foreigner scene is exactly same player, they just cheese at a high level. They're a stain to players like Rain/herO/Zest same way Puma was to MvP. I don't even mean them ill-will or anything, I just sigh when they win
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
June 14 2014 00:55 GMT
#153
Wait wait wait. Oz ahead of jjakji?? How could you insult jjakji like that!??
Community Newsjjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji || jjakji nshoseo.jpg
Emerson_H
Profile Joined March 2014
United States460 Posts
June 14 2014 01:01 GMT
#154
Taeja ez
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
June 14 2014 01:35 GMT
#155
TAEJA DON'T RETIRE PLEASE!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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eurTsItniH
Profile Joined January 2012
887 Posts
June 14 2014 01:45 GMT
#156
I love the power ranks, even though I never agree with them.
Milovan
Profile Joined May 2014
Serbia8 Posts
June 14 2014 01:56 GMT
#157
Taeja or Jd gogo
En Taro Adun
siriuschw
Profile Joined December 2013
Chile19 Posts
June 14 2014 03:27 GMT
#158
Taeja retiring after WCS Finals? No plz no
ad astra per aspera
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
June 14 2014 03:35 GMT
#159
Really curious on how Bunny and Dayshi will perform.

More importantly #YearOfHarstem
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
June 14 2014 04:32 GMT
#160
So im just going to go ahead and assume the writers involved in this post are mostly anti-protoss and pro-zerg players... so much negativity towards the protosses especially white-ra... altho cant really tell if what they said was in good nature or wishing him to actually get knocked out early...
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
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