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On June 14 2014 02:34 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 01:20 Beastgief wrote:
Pretty disappointing turn out, and this list is just WOW...
Jaedong is lower than Snute and Scarlett, which is simply insane. How many premier tournaments have Snute or Scarlett won in HOTS? Oh yea, a fat 0. But eh, liquid/foreign bias isn't new to these power rankings. Hell, Taeja is at #1 and the dude has no shot in this one.
San wins DH Summer for free
(sorry he's only #4)... I'll save this comment, because of the sheer amount of misinformed rage. This is just a fun TL tradition. You're not supposed to agree with everything. It is also based on overall results as well as current form. If Jaedong is as good as you say, he'll prove it in the tournament. No prize money is awarded for getting a high ranking here
This is coming from the same writers that put EG-TL at the #1 spot for SPL....
and go ahead, save away ^^
Jaedong is FAR better than Snute and Scarlett, it's not even a comparison lol. And Taeja will not even make top 4 Dream hack ^^
BOOK IT!
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Hmm no kespian this week-end, this might be the best foreigner chance for a while.
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On June 14 2014 04:34 Beastgief wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 02:34 Yorkie wrote:On June 14 2014 01:20 Beastgief wrote:
Pretty disappointing turn out, and this list is just WOW...
Jaedong is lower than Snute and Scarlett, which is simply insane. How many premier tournaments have Snute or Scarlett won in HOTS? Oh yea, a fat 0. But eh, liquid/foreign bias isn't new to these power rankings. Hell, Taeja is at #1 and the dude has no shot in this one.
San wins DH Summer for free
(sorry he's only #4)... I'll save this comment, because of the sheer amount of misinformed rage. This is just a fun TL tradition. You're not supposed to agree with everything. It is also based on overall results as well as current form. If Jaedong is as good as you say, he'll prove it in the tournament. No prize money is awarded for getting a high ranking here This is coming from the same writers that put EG-TL at the #1 spot for SPL.... and go ahead, save away ^^ Jaedong is FAR better than Snute and Scarlett, it's not even a comparison lol. And Taeja will not even make top 4 Dream hack ^^ BOOK IT!
It's not the same writer, that was fionn.
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Great Power Rank, well done! 
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The EG-TL nr1 thing was probably the first time I ever started laughing helplessly at a power rank. It was just beyond silly.
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On June 14 2014 04:48 Squat wrote:
The EG-TL nr1 thing was probably the first time I ever started laughing helplessly at a power rank. It was just beyond silly.
it was fun tho. the last foreigner vs korea hope in some sort xD
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Mistakes are sometimes made, EGTL nr.1 was certainly one of them. They also put Fantasy in the top 5 worldwide once, which was probably in the same league of failure. I think this one is pretty accurate, maybe player A is a bit over- or player B a bit underrated, but there are no really big wtf-placements. Jaedong is at 13, because he failed to advance to the WCS ro16 twice this year. He is probably underrated right now, but putting him higher would also be kinda wrong, if you keep his WCS AM performance in mind. I don't think, that he is currently assessable, DH and MLG will tell us more about his shape.
The only big thing, I would have done different here is putting Demuslim on the list. I'd favor Zanster/Serral/PiG/Morrow/GoOdy/Showtime/SortOf/MarineLorD over him.
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Nice article, but it wasn't controversial enough. Also, according to this power rank the foreign terran lineup is stronger than the foreign protoss lineup at this tournament which is fairly unusual for Dreamhacks.
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Gotta love these power ranks. I'm totally sold on San, had no idea his latest wins were so impressive.
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On June 14 2014 05:40 TheFish7 wrote:
Gotta love these power ranks. I'm totally sold on San, had no idea his latest wins were so impressive.
Unfortunately, he's neither a foreigner nor on Liquid so he was placed lower than he should be.
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Do you think Taeja approves of these rankings? San isn't #1
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Jaedong #13? Below all those other noobs?
Puhhhhh-lease.
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On June 14 2014 04:44 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 04:34 Beastgief wrote:On June 14 2014 02:34 Yorkie wrote:On June 14 2014 01:20 Beastgief wrote:
Pretty disappointing turn out, and this list is just WOW...
Jaedong is lower than Snute and Scarlett, which is simply insane. How many premier tournaments have Snute or Scarlett won in HOTS? Oh yea, a fat 0. But eh, liquid/foreign bias isn't new to these power rankings. Hell, Taeja is at #1 and the dude has no shot in this one.
San wins DH Summer for free
(sorry he's only #4)... I'll save this comment, because of the sheer amount of misinformed rage. This is just a fun TL tradition. You're not supposed to agree with everything. It is also based on overall results as well as current form. If Jaedong is as good as you say, he'll prove it in the tournament. No prize money is awarded for getting a high ranking here This is coming from the same writers that put EG-TL at the #1 spot for SPL.... and go ahead, save away ^^ Jaedong is FAR better than Snute and Scarlett, it's not even a comparison lol. And Taeja will not even make top 4 Dream hack ^^ BOOK IT! It's not the same writer, that was fionn.
RIP Fionn's passion 
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JD lower than Snute and Scarlett? By what measure?
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On June 14 2014 03:15 heartlxp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 03:01 dirtclodmcgee wrote:
MC is like #15, he lucks out a lot of the time owing to the inherent gimmickiness of protoss...he does us a disservice in cheesing his way deep into tourneys as he just spoils what could have been good series by eventually getting stomped so hard becuz his cheese can only carry him so far (see HSC IX final). i used to like him but now i dread every time he gets remotely deep in a tourney eheh this is how i've felt about MC for 3 yrs, never understood his fans
That being said though, MC has been the most successful player in WCS EU, bar none. He's made it to 3 consecutive finals, and could make it again. Not many players have that claim to fame
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On June 14 2014 06:19 Boucot wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 04:44 Dodgin wrote:On June 14 2014 04:34 Beastgief wrote:On June 14 2014 02:34 Yorkie wrote:On June 14 2014 01:20 Beastgief wrote:
Pretty disappointing turn out, and this list is just WOW...
Jaedong is lower than Snute and Scarlett, which is simply insane. How many premier tournaments have Snute or Scarlett won in HOTS? Oh yea, a fat 0. But eh, liquid/foreign bias isn't new to these power rankings. Hell, Taeja is at #1 and the dude has no shot in this one.
San wins DH Summer for free
(sorry he's only #4)... I'll save this comment, because of the sheer amount of misinformed rage. This is just a fun TL tradition. You're not supposed to agree with everything. It is also based on overall results as well as current form. If Jaedong is as good as you say, he'll prove it in the tournament. No prize money is awarded for getting a high ranking here This is coming from the same writers that put EG-TL at the #1 spot for SPL.... and go ahead, save away ^^ Jaedong is FAR better than Snute and Scarlett, it's not even a comparison lol. And Taeja will not even make top 4 Dream hack ^^ BOOK IT! It's not the same writer, that was fionn. RIP Fionn's passion
I like to think Fionn's passion died so Polt could live.
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On June 14 2014 06:31 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 03:15 heartlxp wrote:On June 14 2014 03:01 dirtclodmcgee wrote:
MC is like #15, he lucks out a lot of the time owing to the inherent gimmickiness of protoss...he does us a disservice in cheesing his way deep into tourneys as he just spoils what could have been good series by eventually getting stomped so hard becuz his cheese can only carry him so far (see HSC IX final). i used to like him but now i dread every time he gets remotely deep in a tourney eheh this is how i've felt about MC for 3 yrs, never understood his fans That being said though, MC has been the most successful player in WCS EU, bar none. He's made it to 3 consecutive finals, and could make it again. Not many players have that claim to fame
He is also the most earning Starcraft 2 player (just recently surpassing Flash in esport prize money) and probably most succesful Protoss player of all time. I think he can not be replaced that easy.
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On June 14 2014 06:56 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2014 06:31 Bagration wrote:On June 14 2014 03:15 heartlxp wrote:On June 14 2014 03:01 dirtclodmcgee wrote:
MC is like #15, he lucks out a lot of the time owing to the inherent gimmickiness of protoss...he does us a disservice in cheesing his way deep into tourneys as he just spoils what could have been good series by eventually getting stomped so hard becuz his cheese can only carry him so far (see HSC IX final). i used to like him but now i dread every time he gets remotely deep in a tourney eheh this is how i've felt about MC for 3 yrs, never understood his fans That being said though, MC has been the most successful player in WCS EU, bar none. He's made it to 3 consecutive finals, and could make it again. Not many players have that claim to fame He is also the most earning Starcraft 2 player (just recently surpassing Flash in esport prize money) and probably most succesful Protoss player of all time. I think he can not be replaced that easy.
He earned a TON of money beating up on foreign scrubs. He, along with Hero, were the first Koreans that realized just how much money they could make ezmoding through foreign tournaments. You'll notice that as soon as more and more Koreans started coming over, MC's success fell off hard. Dude got 4-0'd by Taeja , who struggles vs foreigners. MC is rated too highly imo. It's hard to rank Koreans that are based in the foreign scene, like Hyun/MC/Taeja, since they play real competition so infrequently
That's why these power rankings are tricky in particular, because there are no Code S players attending. Also makes me wonder why this things labeled a premier, when 30+ guys in Korea could come and win this thing for free, but eh, I can enjoy college football so I'll enjoy this tourney, even if it's a few notches below real SC2.
MC isn't very relevant in the SC2 scene. I mean, sure, he can win WCS EU... but where's the glory in that? Beating foreigners and people that couldn't take the heat in Korea? I loved MC in the past, but these are new times. He didn't get any worse, the competition just got a lot better.
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I remember that one time Kespa players went to dreamhack and won the whole thing for free
oh this is funny, it was actually MC who knocked out TY at the previous dreamhack.
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On June 14 2014 07:21 Dodgin wrote:
I remember that one time Kespa players went to dreamhack and won the whole thing for free
oh this is funny, it was actually MC who knocked out TY at the previous dreamhack.
Which one, when Flash got slapped around by Yugioh and Dimaga or when TY collapsed against MC?
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