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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
April 18 2014 07:37 GMT
#21
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 18 2014 07:47 GMT
#22
Hope all the IS3 stuff works out. Great tournament and really miss having it happen. One of the best live events in sc2
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nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 18 2014 10:06 GMT
#23
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
April 18 2014 10:16 GMT
#24
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault


Thats the point...it is not Twitch Fault. Dailymotion is the real problem.
Why not make an smaller production for french stream in order to keep stream costs low?

I am sure everybody is enjoying proffessional streams...but i am pretty sure people still watching when you cut quality in order to offer an french stream. For instance WCS had an russian stream some weeks ago with only 300 peole watching. I guess its okay to start like that...
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
April 18 2014 10:41 GMT
#25
On April 18 2014 19:16 cutler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault


Thats the point...it is not Twitch Fault. Dailymotion is the real problem.
Why not make an smaller production for french stream in order to keep stream costs low?

I am sure everybody is enjoying proffessional streams...but i am pretty sure people still watching when you cut quality in order to offer an french stream. For instance WCS had an russian stream some weeks ago with only 300 peole watching. I guess its okay to start like that...

Why is Dailymotion the problem ? The company has nothing to do with Twitch. French people want a great stream, we are the second largest community in Europe, we just want to see a stream with a great quality.
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Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
April 18 2014 10:47 GMT
#26
Thanks for keeping us updated Aeromi I love your kebab reference, I'm sure the TakeTV-Team approves
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 18 2014 10:57 GMT
#27
On April 18 2014 19:47 Niko_Thien wrote:
Thanks for keeping us updated Aeromi I love your kebab reference, I'm sure the TakeTV-Team approves

It's actually said in the video. :D
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 18 2014 11:08 GMT
#28
On April 18 2014 19:41 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:16 cutler wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault


Thats the point...it is not Twitch Fault. Dailymotion is the real problem.
Why not make an smaller production for french stream in order to keep stream costs low?

I am sure everybody is enjoying proffessional streams...but i am pretty sure people still watching when you cut quality in order to offer an french stream. For instance WCS had an russian stream some weeks ago with only 300 peole watching. I guess its okay to start like that...

Why is Dailymotion the problem ? The company has nothing to do with Twitch. French people want a great stream, we are the second largest community in Europe, we just want to see a stream with a great quality.


If you want a stream, stream on twitch but put less money into it. That's the solution right there
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yolteotl
Profile Joined October 2011
France76 Posts
April 18 2014 11:32 GMT
#29
On April 18 2014 20:08 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:41 Aeromi wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:16 cutler wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault


Thats the point...it is not Twitch Fault. Dailymotion is the real problem.
Why not make an smaller production for french stream in order to keep stream costs low?

I am sure everybody is enjoying proffessional streams...but i am pretty sure people still watching when you cut quality in order to offer an french stream. For instance WCS had an russian stream some weeks ago with only 300 peole watching. I guess its okay to start like that...

Why is Dailymotion the problem ? The company has nothing to do with Twitch. French people want a great stream, we are the second largest community in Europe, we just want to see a stream with a great quality.


If you want a stream, stream on twitch but put less money into it. That's the solution right there


It's not since Twitch has a poor quality service in France.
They announced some weeks ago that they will put servers in France this year. It has to be done years ago ! Ppl goes where services are better, in France, it's Dailymotion.
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
April 18 2014 11:45 GMT
#30
On April 18 2014 20:08 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:41 Aeromi wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:16 cutler wrote:
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault


Thats the point...it is not Twitch Fault. Dailymotion is the real problem.
Why not make an smaller production for french stream in order to keep stream costs low?

I am sure everybody is enjoying proffessional streams...but i am pretty sure people still watching when you cut quality in order to offer an french stream. For instance WCS had an russian stream some weeks ago with only 300 peole watching. I guess its okay to start like that...

Why is Dailymotion the problem ? The company has nothing to do with Twitch. French people want a great stream, we are the second largest community in Europe, we just want to see a stream with a great quality.


If you want a stream, stream on twitch but put less money into it. That's the solution right there



Yeah best way to improve Esport worldwide is to have 2 people comment with skype and a webcam You are a genius all is fixed thanks to this great idea .
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3683 Posts
April 18 2014 12:11 GMT
#31
So how can MLG, Dreamhack, ESL, Proleague etc. all be able to plan their events around WCS and somehow IS3 can't? I think there is a major miscommunication between the French scene and Blizzard. The hole Dailymotion thing is just bad luck for you guys, Twitch is the official partner of WCS and neither Blizzard nor ESL can change anything about that.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
April 18 2014 12:13 GMT
#32
Americans use imperial measurement units. French people use kebabs.

I confirm it is true.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
April 18 2014 12:17 GMT
#33
It should be noted that we are talking about Parisian kebabs here, where I live kebabs are between 3.50 and 4 euros, not 5. Thought this was important to clarify.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
April 18 2014 12:45 GMT
#34
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault

Is this sarcasm or serious? I can't tell but how would it not be twitch's fault?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
April 18 2014 12:46 GMT
#35
So "it's hard to organise ironsquid 3 because of no clear schedule from wcs, but we're going to have a sc2 tournament with alot of big players, more info soon !"

Am I the only one noticing something weird here ?
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 12:48:10
April 18 2014 12:48 GMT
#36
On April 18 2014 21:46 Sakray wrote:
So "it's hard to organise ironsquid 3 because of no clear schedule from wcs, but we're going to have a sc2 tournament with alot of big players, more info soon !"

Am I the only one noticing something weird here ?

It's a different type of tournament, I can't say more though.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 18 2014 12:56 GMT
#37
On April 18 2014 21:46 Sakray wrote:
So "it's hard to organise ironsquid 3 because of no clear schedule from wcs, but we're going to have a sc2 tournament with alot of big players, more info soon !"

Am I the only one noticing something weird here ?

The venue for IS has to be booked a year before. This one is probably a smaller tournament planned within the next weeks/months.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16710 Posts
April 18 2014 13:09 GMT
#38
Its clear that Blizzard is an horrific live events promoter.

this problem will just keep cropping up each year unless Blizzard pre-plans a Blizzcon more than 1 year in advance or they remove the WCS Finals from Blizzcon.

Blizzard needs to hand off WCS to an organization that plans and runs competitive leagues 365/24/7.

Of course, this will never happen and these issues will continue to be a stumbling block for any independent live event promoters that want to use Starcraft2.
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ZodaSoda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1191 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-18 13:22:24
April 18 2014 13:21 GMT
#39
IronSquid people seem to misinterpret Blizzards job in WCS...

ESL Runs WCS AM/EU
GOM runs GSL

If you want WCS or GSL schedule you ask those two companies, Blizzard wont know, you do not say Blizzard doesnt know this Blizzard doesnt know that... you're basically asking for kebabs at a burger place...

Again ESL runs WCS EU, WCS is contracted to be broadcast on twitch so ESL broadcasts on twitch, if ESL is nice enough to let you restream WCS you're going to have to use twitch, now if twitch pays less in france due to i dunno government tax? whatever... that is neither Blizzard, ESL or even twitches fault, I hope you have asked twitch or ESL if there is a work around of France' twitch problem before giving up and posting this...
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
April 18 2014 13:28 GMT
#40
On April 18 2014 21:45 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2014 19:06 nkr wrote:
On April 18 2014 16:37 Destructicon wrote:
I really hate Twitch right now, they may have done a lot to help grow the and sustain gaming as a way of life, but now their greed and attempts to keep a monopoly is directly and negatively impacting gaming, They should either provide better services and better revenue for more people or just accept there is going to be competition. This whole problem is actually on twitch.

Well hopefully things work out somehow for the French community, and also hopefully some alternative service comes up and actually truly challenges twitch.


ads bringing in low cpm in france is anything but twitch's fault

Is this sarcasm or serious? I can't tell but how would it not be twitch's fault?



Easy !
=>French casters don't want to stream on Twitch because low money.
=>Orange and Free (some of the biggest ISPs in France) nerf Twitch connection at certains hours.
=>Twitch doesn't want to improve its ad announcer(?) in France because no one use twitch in France.
=> Dailymotion is owned by Orange.

See the issue here?
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