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On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene.
Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun.
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Haters gonna hate.
Naniwa you were without a shred of doubt the best foreign sc2 player and im gonna continue being a fan and follow whichever game you pick up (if any)
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On March 26 2014 13:14 Gen.Rolly wrote:
3 facts about Naniwa:
1) He is a talented player
2) I used to respect him
3) I don't anymore
WORD!
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I am a bit amused that Naniwa made it sound like Alliance callously made him go to IEM, when it most likely was just a friendly conversation with KellyMilkies.
Despite the claims of the Dota2 community, I can't believe she's actually the anti-christ. ;o
But nice to get an official statement. Unlike the cynics in here who call dismiss this as empty PR, I think it's a fairly genuine statement to be honest.
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Kelly has no disrespect against Johan. She tried to push him to go to IEM because of overhead pressure but she knew he had no passion for SC2. It was timely business-wise for Alliance, but as far as management goes there is no hate.
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We'll never know the real story, but that doesn't matter. Even though he had an unique personality, I still hope he comes back and finds the motivation to play.
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I don't see what Alliance does wrong here. It's known that Naniwa doesn't want to play SC2 anymore, so getting fired from Alliance is just sooner or later, with or without IEM event or not. Alliance wants to use the IEM event as the last decision to let Naniwa go. It doesn't matter if the event is IEM, Dreamhack, WCS, it's gonna happen sooner or later.
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On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene. Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun.
he also doesn't have qite as much talent as either scarlett or stephano in my opinion.
he is still the second best foreigner in achievements though. very close to stephano depending on how much you value GSL Ro8 twice.
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On March 26 2014 14:48 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 13:55 Disengaged wrote:On March 26 2014 13:10 Jaaaaasper wrote:On March 26 2014 13:04 RevTiberius wrote:On March 26 2014 12:59 Salient wrote:
I really enjoyed watching Naniwa play. He is very creative. He innovated or developed many of the leading strategies. Just look at how many Day[9] Dailies focused on analyzing Naniwa's play! I'm sorry he lost his passion for Starcraft. I wish he could live in a team house with other dedicated foreigners and maybe a random mercenary Korean or two like MC or Stardust. He really seems to need a structured and supportive environment. Actually, it's too bad he never joined My-insanity since they have exactly that sort of team house in Switzerland. I hope Naniwa gets tired of MOBAs fast -- just like Marine King.
PS: this statement from Alliance is very classy. They seem to be very professional, and they didn't burn any bridges. That makes it easier for Naniwa to return someday. That's not classy at all. An honest account of Naniwa's successes and problems would have been classy. The complete whitewash management released can't be taken seriously, and is most likely (and hopefully) not genuine. Also the lack of grammar checking in a official statement is kind of irking. Thats kellymilkies for you. Singapore is supposed to have good English. Except when they start speaking in Singlish
Sweden is supposed to have good english too, then you hear my dad trying to speak to my sister's scottish boyfriend.
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I still suspect things did go kinda south at the end of it all, but this is a great and supportive official statement from Alliance. Also makes it seem more plausible that everyone on Alliance including Naniwa really did get along and that there are no hard feelings.
Positive statements, supportive words, lack of drama. A shining gem in the sc2 landscape  Kudos Alliance.
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On March 26 2014 13:12 lichter wrote:
I didn't know Kelly was Alliance's manager whut
Very shocked at that revelation as well, after the moonglade/huk saga.
Oh well, personal reservations are just that, personal reservations. Alliance has the guts to separate personal life from professional capacities I guess.
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On March 26 2014 18:42 var username wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 13:12 lichter wrote:
I didn't know Kelly was Alliance's manager whut Very shocked at that revelation as well, after the moonglade/huk saga. Oh well, personal reservations are just that, personal reservations. Alliance has the guts to separate personal life from professional capacities I guess.
what saga? have i missed sc2 drama?
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I'm allergic to PR statements, now having read this I'll feel twitchy all morning. 
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On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene. Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun.
So I heard about this GSL thing
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Now that explains why it took them so long. I guess most of this was reworded 5+ times by Garfield, but I'm still shocked that it comes of so positively towards Nani.
I hope he finds his motivation again, Nani was among like 3-4 foreigners that I actually even cared about and was interested in watching their games. He and Huk spent by far the most time in Korea among all foreigners and I will always respect both of them for doing so. I don't care much for all this drama crap, any player may forfeit and if he felt like that was the best possible decision for him at that point in time, I respect that. Also he at least cared about the competition and didn't keep not practicing/partying/saying he was only in it for the money like Stephano.
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On March 26 2014 18:49 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene. Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun. So I heard about this GSL thing
Swedish poster so you must be talking about Jinro then? =p
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if 5 different Naniwa threads compose the top 5 of the SC2 General section for a while then i think Johan will consider his IEM shenanigans to be "mission accomplished".
now htat he has retired do we refer to him as Johan or Naniwa?
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On March 26 2014 18:51 Wuster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 18:49 Muffloe wrote:On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene. Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun. So I heard about this GSL thing Swedish poster so you must be talking about Jinro then? =p
Well I can talk about that aswell  But that was very early in SC2, and one could argue that it was a different time. Naniwa went RO8 when it was more "figured out"... and what happened when Stephano tried?
(also note that Naniwa was 1 map away form winning DRG, and could then cruise on his at the time good pvp to a championship)
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On March 26 2014 18:51 lamprey1 wrote:
if 5 different Naniwa threads compose the top 5 of the SC2 General section for a while then i think Johan will consider his IEM shenanigans to be "mission accomplished".
now htat he has retired do we refer to him as Johan or Naniwa?
retiree in the north
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On March 26 2014 18:55 Muffloe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2014 18:51 Wuster wrote:On March 26 2014 18:49 Muffloe wrote:On March 26 2014 17:16 Furikawari wrote:On March 26 2014 16:10 Advantageous wrote:
3 facts about the SC2 community on Naniwa:
1) cant get over how naniwa thumbs-downed Nestea, and probe-rushed Nestea.
2) cant get over the fact that a foreign protoss is considered the best foreigner. (GG Terran and Zerg Tears)
3) last but not least, refuse to believe that Naniwa (the best foreigner) have the balls to show his opinion publicly and uncensored.
Deal with it all you Nani-haters. He is so far the best foreigner to have come to the scene. Your idol doesnt have half the achievements Stephano has. Well tried. At least the protoss whining part was fun. So I heard about this GSL thing Swedish poster so you must be talking about Jinro then? =p Well I can talk about that aswell But that was very early in SC2, and one could argue that it was a different time. Naniwa went RO8 when it was more "figured out"... and what happened when Stephano tried? (also note that Naniwa was 1 map away form winning DRG, and could cruise on his at the time good pvp to a championship)
ok really, naniwa failed twice before he even got into code s, it took him a lot of time to even start performing in gsl
stephano went there once and lost in a group with innovation and DRG. You can't use this as an argument against stephano, it's just blind fanboyism.
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