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Sadly, he's getting just what he wanted. Publicity and Attention.
The way he acted overall should have consequences whether it be removed/banned/suspended from tournaments in the future for x amount of time or community sites just the same.
The way he acted was unbecoming of himself, disrespectful to the event and the community, but most of all, just having a piss poor attitude in general. If he didn't want to go, don't go. You were quitting anyways so who cares if you were kicked off your team for not going. You got kicked off anyways.
Being a dick and ill-mannered is the way of the future for this community and sadly that's how its been going for awhile. It should not be condoned and it should not be favored.
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Naniwa was still under contract with Alliance correct? That would mean that they pay, he plays. I don't see why he wouldn't have to play and his "My team made me go! How dumb is that?" attitude is bullshit.
Also how many times does he have to say "I don't care anymore"? He says it so much that one might take presume that he actually does care.
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On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thorin talking smack on EG/Alliance? NO WAY!
Dude has always has a problem with them. Yeah the organization who fucking pays players what they deserve is so damn terrible. EG so terrible that their players pretty much always want to resign with them... What a bad organization.
Didn't Puma say, he felt deeply hurt by EG + Show Spoiler +(I remember something along those lines, correct me if I'm confusing something here, I'll edit it out in that case)
On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Naniwa has had issues with EVERY team he has ever been on. Maybe its not the teams...
AFAIK he was fine on Quantic until they merged with Vile.
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Well, what a childish maneuver...don't try to come back with the excuse of reclaiming the title of the best foreigner after practicing only 2 weeks. Nobody wants to see you in the game anymore. Go live your life and die in peace without subjecting us to your presence.
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How disgusting, god. I'm glad he got kicked from the team. Didn't deserve to be sponsored in the first place with his attitude and dedication.
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On March 22 2014 01:20 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thorin talking smack on EG/Alliance? NO WAY!
Dude has always has a problem with them. Yeah the organization who fucking pays players what they deserve is so damn terrible. EG so terrible that their players pretty much always want to resign with them... What a bad organization.
Didn't Puma say, he felt deeply hurt by EG + Show Spoiler +(I remember something along those lines, correct me if I'm confusing something here, I'll edit it out in that case) ? And didn't Revival, aLive and Oz get cut as soon as EG didn't need them for PL anymore? I have nothing against EG for doing buisness how buisness is done, but you shouldn't see them as saints either. Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Naniwa has had issues with EVERY team he has ever been on. Maybe its not the teams... AFAIK he was fine on Quantic until they merged with Vile.
Was that the Quantic with the leader who stole a bunch of money from Hyun and put it towards their LoL team?
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On March 22 2014 01:14 Dracolich70 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 00:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:As far as I'm concerned there is nothing worse than forfeiting a $100,000 exclusive high-profile event in front of a pissed off crowd and then lying about your reasons why. It is never fun being humiliated, when you have already said, your heart is not in it, and yet, sent away to do. I am sure, someone as intelligent as you can understand, TB(or at least your private side of the business). Not sure, if the soundproof thing was a lie, but I find it human to fetch an excuse, when being humilated for reason you already knew beforehand. Regardless of any notion of otherwise, I am sure, most players play for their own, rather than for a bunch of people paying to watch them play out of form. Stephano forfeited plenty of tournaments as far as I recall.
Not in this fashion. Context is king. And Naniwa is a grown ass adult with a job. What he did is like one of my attorneys losing it infront of a judge and getting held in contempt. You get fired for that shit.
Life is hard in the working world, get a helmet.
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On March 22 2014 01:17 Darkhorse wrote:
Also how many times does he have to say "I don't care anymore"? He says it so much that one might take presume that he actually does care.
All I can think about now is how Naniwa has an almost tsundere relationship with the SC2 community. "It-its not like I care what you think or anything~"
Tsunderiwa?
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On March 22 2014 01:21 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:20 Xoronius wrote:On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thorin talking smack on EG/Alliance? NO WAY!
Dude has always has a problem with them. Yeah the organization who fucking pays players what they deserve is so damn terrible. EG so terrible that their players pretty much always want to resign with them... What a bad organization.
Didn't Puma say, he felt deeply hurt by EG + Show Spoiler +(I remember something along those lines, correct me if I'm confusing something here, I'll edit it out in that case) ? And didn't Revival, aLive and Oz get cut as soon as EG didn't need them for PL anymore? I have nothing against EG for doing buisness how buisness is done, but you shouldn't see them as saints either. On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Naniwa has had issues with EVERY team he has ever been on. Maybe its not the teams... AFAIK he was fine on Quantic until they merged with Vile. Was that the Quantic with the leader who stole a bunch of money from Hyun and put it towards their LoL team?
I have no idea. Naniwa was fine with Quantic, then Quantic merged with Vile, than this Quantic disbanded, a bit later another Quantic reformed and that Quantic betrayed Hyun. But I have no idea, who exactly was managing Quantic, while Naniwa was on it, so I can't comment on that. Simon-whatever-his-name-was betraying Hyun has nothing to do with Nani getting along with the entire team at that point, though.
Btw.; I didn't hear anything on that for quite some time now, wasn't someone investigating on that? Wouldn't Simon be a worthier target to the current community hate.
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personally I'm glad to see him go - decent player but not the type of person I want playing the greatest game
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On March 22 2014 01:21 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:20 Xoronius wrote:On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thorin talking smack on EG/Alliance? NO WAY!
Dude has always has a problem with them. Yeah the organization who fucking pays players what they deserve is so damn terrible. EG so terrible that their players pretty much always want to resign with them... What a bad organization.
Didn't Puma say, he felt deeply hurt by EG + Show Spoiler +(I remember something along those lines, correct me if I'm confusing something here, I'll edit it out in that case) ? And didn't Revival, aLive and Oz get cut as soon as EG didn't need them for PL anymore? I have nothing against EG for doing buisness how buisness is done, but you shouldn't see them as saints either. On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Naniwa has had issues with EVERY team he has ever been on. Maybe its not the teams... AFAIK he was fine on Quantic until they merged with Vile. Was that the Quantic with the leader who stole a bunch of money from Hyun and put it towards their LoL team?
Nope Naniwa was on the original Quantic which disbanded. The new Organisation Hyun was on just used the quantic brand.
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On March 22 2014 01:21 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:20 Xoronius wrote:On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Thorin talking smack on EG/Alliance? NO WAY!
Dude has always has a problem with them. Yeah the organization who fucking pays players what they deserve is so damn terrible. EG so terrible that their players pretty much always want to resign with them... What a bad organization.
Didn't Puma say, he felt deeply hurt by EG + Show Spoiler +(I remember something along those lines, correct me if I'm confusing something here, I'll edit it out in that case) ? And didn't Revival, aLive and Oz get cut as soon as EG didn't need them for PL anymore? I have nothing against EG for doing buisness how buisness is done, but you shouldn't see them as saints either. On March 22 2014 01:09 jmbthirteen wrote:
Naniwa has had issues with EVERY team he has ever been on. Maybe its not the teams... AFAIK he was fine on Quantic until they merged with Vile. Was that the Quantic with the leader who stole a bunch of money from Hyun and put it towards their LoL team?
No, you're thinking of the Quantic that merged with It's Gosu.
This was the Quantic that was doing well for itself then shut down suddenly due to investors pulling out.
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How can a 24 year old professional "athlete" be so underdeveloped mentally. It's insane. Hope he focuses on doing something for his future now, because it's gonna be really hard for him with such a personality.
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On March 22 2014 01:22 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 22 2014 00:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:As far as I'm concerned there is nothing worse than forfeiting a $100,000 exclusive high-profile event in front of a pissed off crowd and then lying about your reasons why. It is never fun being humiliated, when you have already said, your heart is not in it, and yet, sent away to do. I am sure, someone as intelligent as you can understand, TB(or at least your private side of the business). Not sure, if the soundproof thing was a lie, but I find it human to fetch an excuse, when being humilated for reason you already knew beforehand. Regardless of any notion of otherwise, I am sure, most players play for their own, rather than for a bunch of people paying to watch them play out of form. Stephano forfeited plenty of tournaments as far as I recall. Not in this fashion. Context is king. And Naniwa is a grown ass adult with a job. What he did is like one of my attorneys losing it infront of a judge and getting held in contempt. You get fired for that shit. Life is hard in the working world, get a helmet.
Stephano has legitimately forfeited online cups because "I'm too le tired to play."
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On March 22 2014 01:32 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:22 Plansix wrote:On March 22 2014 01:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 22 2014 00:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:As far as I'm concerned there is nothing worse than forfeiting a $100,000 exclusive high-profile event in front of a pissed off crowd and then lying about your reasons why. It is never fun being humiliated, when you have already said, your heart is not in it, and yet, sent away to do. I am sure, someone as intelligent as you can understand, TB(or at least your private side of the business). Not sure, if the soundproof thing was a lie, but I find it human to fetch an excuse, when being humilated for reason you already knew beforehand. Regardless of any notion of otherwise, I am sure, most players play for their own, rather than for a bunch of people paying to watch them play out of form. Stephano forfeited plenty of tournaments as far as I recall. Not in this fashion. Context is king. And Naniwa is a grown ass adult with a job. What he did is like one of my attorneys losing it infront of a judge and getting held in contempt. You get fired for that shit. Life is hard in the working world, get a helmet. Stephano has legitimately forfeited online cups because "I'm too le tired to play."
That's unprofessional as well, but there is a difference between an online cup and a one-per-year-type live event in front of a huge ass audience in terms of sponsor exposure.
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Anyway Naniwa has gotten about a hundred thread pages in the past two weeks. Every aspect of this has been discussed to death and people have their opinions on the matter pretty set. Not much of a surprise that Naniwa got dropped from Alliance.
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On March 22 2014 01:34 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:32 Clbull wrote:On March 22 2014 01:22 Plansix wrote:On March 22 2014 01:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 22 2014 00:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:As far as I'm concerned there is nothing worse than forfeiting a $100,000 exclusive high-profile event in front of a pissed off crowd and then lying about your reasons why. It is never fun being humiliated, when you have already said, your heart is not in it, and yet, sent away to do. I am sure, someone as intelligent as you can understand, TB(or at least your private side of the business). Not sure, if the soundproof thing was a lie, but I find it human to fetch an excuse, when being humilated for reason you already knew beforehand. Regardless of any notion of otherwise, I am sure, most players play for their own, rather than for a bunch of people paying to watch them play out of form. Stephano forfeited plenty of tournaments as far as I recall. Not in this fashion. Context is king. And Naniwa is a grown ass adult with a job. What he did is like one of my attorneys losing it infront of a judge and getting held in contempt. You get fired for that shit. Life is hard in the working world, get a helmet. Stephano has legitimately forfeited online cups because "I'm too le tired to play." That's unprofessional as well, but there is a difference between an online cup and a one-per-year-type live event in front of a huge ass audience in terms of sponsor exposure.
On stage, after the first match where people came to watch SC2.
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On March 22 2014 01:32 Clbull wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:22 Plansix wrote:On March 22 2014 01:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 22 2014 00:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:As far as I'm concerned there is nothing worse than forfeiting a $100,000 exclusive high-profile event in front of a pissed off crowd and then lying about your reasons why. It is never fun being humiliated, when you have already said, your heart is not in it, and yet, sent away to do. I am sure, someone as intelligent as you can understand, TB(or at least your private side of the business). Not sure, if the soundproof thing was a lie, but I find it human to fetch an excuse, when being humilated for reason you already knew beforehand. Regardless of any notion of otherwise, I am sure, most players play for their own, rather than for a bunch of people paying to watch them play out of form. Stephano forfeited plenty of tournaments as far as I recall. Not in this fashion. Context is king. And Naniwa is a grown ass adult with a job. What he did is like one of my attorneys losing it infront of a judge and getting held in contempt. You get fired for that shit. Life is hard in the working world, get a helmet. Stephano has legitimately forfeited online cups because "I'm too le tired to play."
online cups ≠ 100000$ tournament in a stadium broadcasted to more than 70000 viewers
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On March 22 2014 01:22 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2014 01:14 Dracolich70 wrote:On March 22 2014 00:59 TotalBiscuit wrote:As far as I'm concerned there is nothing worse than forfeiting a $100,000 exclusive high-profile event in front of a pissed off crowd and then lying about your reasons why. It is never fun being humiliated, when you have already said, your heart is not in it, and yet, sent away to do. I am sure, someone as intelligent as you can understand, TB(or at least your private side of the business). Not sure, if the soundproof thing was a lie, but I find it human to fetch an excuse, when being humilated for reason you already knew beforehand. Regardless of any notion of otherwise, I am sure, most players play for their own, rather than for a bunch of people paying to watch them play out of form. Stephano forfeited plenty of tournaments as far as I recall. Not in this fashion. Context is king. And Naniwa is a grown ass adult with a job. What he did is like one of my attorneys losing it infront of a judge and getting held in contempt. You get fired for that shit. Life is hard in the working world, get a helmet. Yes, context is king. I am sure you would get fired for sending one of your attorneys unsuitable to take a case, because he lost it, while being warned by that employee beforehand, that he couldn't.
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On March 22 2014 01:17 Darkhorse wrote:
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Naniwa was still under contract with Alliance correct? That would mean that they pay, he plays. I don't see why he wouldn't have to play and his "My team made me go! How dumb is that?" attitude is bullshit.
Also how many times does he have to say "I don't care anymore"? He says it so much that one might take presume that he actually does care.
no point in sending a guy out who won't do his best.
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