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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 11:39:02
March 15 2014 11:38 GMT
#701
haha. Is there any amateurplayer that deserves less respect than Naniwa?

btw. does anyone have a videolink of him getting boo`ed of stage?
keep it deep! @zulison
horvaa
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden80 Posts
March 15 2014 11:44 GMT
#702
Wow, just wow.

So much hate and rudeness going on towards Naniwa. I really feel sad for the guy. Forfeiting games isnt something new. And when Naniwa writes that "Polt could hear the casters too" I dont see why you shouldnt trust him.

And what is up with the disrespectful crowd, a player dont wanna play, we know some of the reasons but not the whole picture. And they boo him out.

Im not racist, but that would never happen in Dreamhack or at an MLG.

Naniwa have made a few choices that have been provocative before, but I dont see any wrong with this.

I see it like this, Naniwa is having a rough time right now. Be nice to the guy, like him or not, there are loads of people who still play sc2/watch sc2 only because of him.(I for example)

I think Im done with this community after some great years, I was hoping all along that Naniwa would get a nice retirement but I guess the community isnt what it was 2 years ago.
Fanboy of Naniwa, Morrow, Grubby, Bitterdam, Day9, Loda, AdmiralBulldog
Artok
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands2219 Posts
March 15 2014 11:57 GMT
#703
On March 15 2014 20:44 horvaa wrote:
Wow, just wow.

So much hate and rudeness going on towards Naniwa. I really feel sad for the guy. Forfeiting games isnt something new. And when Naniwa writes that "Polt could hear the casters too" I dont see why you shouldnt trust him.

And what is up with the disrespectful crowd, a player dont wanna play, we know some of the reasons but not the whole picture. And they boo him out.

Im not racist, but that would never happen in Dreamhack or at an MLG.

Naniwa have made a few choices that have been provocative before, but I dont see any wrong with this.

I see it like this, Naniwa is having a rough time right now. Be nice to the guy, like him or not, there are loads of people who still play sc2/watch sc2 only because of him.(I for example)

I think Im done with this community after some great years, I was hoping all along that Naniwa would get a nice retirement but I guess the community isnt what it was 2 years ago.


elaborate about what it was 2 years ago
Chun-li since ST
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
March 15 2014 12:00 GMT
#704
On March 15 2014 19:10 Mina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 18:21 hariooo wrote:
Hey guys I think Naniwa's behaviour is disgusting so I'm going to make jokes about real mental illnesses. /s

I was being sincere.


That's right. No need for doctors. As long as you sincerely believe it, it's okay to call people autistic online.
djannih
Profile Joined March 2014
9 Posts
March 15 2014 12:06 GMT
#705
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 12:07:29
March 15 2014 12:07 GMT
#706
On March 15 2014 20:38 zul wrote:
haha. Is there any amateurplayer that deserves less respect than Naniwa?

btw. does anyone have a videolink of him getting boo`ed of stage?





Watch at => 35:04
djannih
Profile Joined March 2014
9 Posts
March 15 2014 12:07 GMT
#707
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.
arkedos
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1426 Posts
March 15 2014 12:08 GMT
#708
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.



Errr what is bad about the production of IEM? I think it is really great so far.
love esports - hate homophobia
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
March 15 2014 12:08 GMT
#709
thanks @joecool
keep it deep! @zulison
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
March 15 2014 12:09 GMT
#710
It's interesting that people are defending him on technical matters, like his eminent past, soundproofing issues and forfeiture rules.

I don't think it was WHAT Naniwa did that was unacceptable (well, not entirely, anyway). We know he's been a good player in the past, who has provided memorable and enjoyable games. Soundproofing has been a legitimate concern as of late; it's nothing new, and it can be serious. A number of players have resigned from tournaments for one reason or another; occasionally there have been flak, but more often than not marginal at best. I don't know about the community, but I would certainly understand if Naniwa had an issue with those problems.

It was HOW he executed it all that was intolerable, and the backlash was justifiable. Complaining about soundproofing in-game--followed by a rage quit, doesn't quite garner much respect. Neither should the subsequent posts on Twitter. HE made his own exit as ignominious as possible, and who are we to deny that from him? Professionalism doesn't just mean following the rules, it also implies a level of sportsmanship, a degree of ethics, and so forth.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 12:10:25
March 15 2014 12:09 GMT
#711
On March 15 2014 21:07 djannih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.


Now that I thought about it for a while I´m pretty sure you are trolling... yeah that must be it!
djannih
Profile Joined March 2014
9 Posts
March 15 2014 12:14 GMT
#712
On March 15 2014 21:09 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:07 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.


Now that I thought about it for a while I´m pretty sure you are trolling... yeah that must be it!


You need to practice thinking a bit more then. I'm not trolling at all. What a classless bunch of troglodytes they are. Booing like that is not how it's supposed to be done. Perhaps in Poland, but not anywhere else.
djannih
Profile Joined March 2014
9 Posts
March 15 2014 12:16 GMT
#713
On March 15 2014 21:08 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.



Errr what is bad about the production of IEM? I think it is really great so far.


Apart from the players hearing the casters and the crowd? I dunno. But that's reason enough to be worried.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
March 15 2014 12:17 GMT
#714
On March 15 2014 21:14 djannih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:09 JoeCool wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:07 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.


Now that I thought about it for a while I´m pretty sure you are trolling... yeah that must be it!


You need to practice thinking a bit more then. I'm not trolling at all. What a classless bunch of troglodytes they are. Booing like that is not how it's supposed to be done. Perhaps in Poland, but not anywhere else.

I would've booed and I am not from poland. He behaved bad towards the tourney, his opponent and the crowd. That is justification enough for me.
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 12:20:34
March 15 2014 12:18 GMT
#715
On March 15 2014 21:16 djannih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:08 arkedos wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.



Errr what is bad about the production of IEM? I think it is really great so far.


Apart from the players hearing the casters and the crowd? I dunno. But that's reason enough to be worried.

Sound proofing is almost impossible to do(completely) unless you pay for the real sound proof booths which are super expensive. The only other reasonable thing to do is have the players in other rooms which can ruin the atmosphere of the tournament.
also gom had the same issues so i'm not sure why you're singling out poland.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Wertheron
Profile Joined October 2011
France439 Posts
March 15 2014 12:19 GMT
#716
On March 15 2014 21:14 djannih wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:09 JoeCool wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:07 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.


Now that I thought about it for a while I´m pretty sure you are trolling... yeah that must be it!


You need to practice thinking a bit more then. I'm not trolling at all. What a classless bunch of troglodytes they are. Booing like that is not how it's supposed to be done. Perhaps in Poland, but not anywhere else.


France, and i support the Polish crowd against the swedish child.
Iduakil
Profile Joined October 2011
Poland23 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 12:20:28
March 15 2014 12:19 GMT
#717
On March 15 2014 21:09 JoeCool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:07 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.


This guys above are soo inteligent. So much wisdom in thier words. Yeah just because there is an event in any particular country let`s just dis the home country and asume that the technical equipment that traveled through many continents isn`t the same in all of them, and lets just asume that the home country of event takes ALLL TECHNICAL maintenaice!!! THOSE are the same soundproof booths that were in Sao Paulo, Cologne, New York!!! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOYR ASSS!!!

Sure yeah!!! Let`s just blame all the people in particular country when a fanbois player acts like an unmature child with an ego and emotonial levels of a chimpanzee!!!

To TL moders, I`m very glad that you let in sooooooooo much nationality attacks in this topic, poland this, poland that!! GG KUDOS!!!
Datteln
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany76 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 12:31:16
March 15 2014 12:19 GMT
#718
On March 15 2014 21:08 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +



Errr what is bad about the production of IEM? I think it is really great so far.

On March 15 2014 21:14 djannih wrote:
Apart from the players hearing the casters and the crowd? I dunno. But that's reason enough to be worried.


3 - Naniwa if anyone has no moral right to complain
When playing vs Flash on MLG - Naniwa clearly had no shame in his body turning his scouting probe around when the crowd reacted to him missing Flashs proxy barracks.



aaah fuck im just a bad poster.....gonna watch now this awesome iem tourney
Mada mada dane.
djannih
Profile Joined March 2014
9 Posts
March 15 2014 12:21 GMT
#719
On March 15 2014 21:17 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:14 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:09 JoeCool wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:07 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 21:06 djannih wrote:
On March 15 2014 20:09 iloveav wrote:
The worst part of this is that it hurts the scene.
That kind of behaviour will scare potencial sponsors even futher seeing E-Sports like Children playing in the sand instead of a serious competition.


What hurts the scene even more is shoddy production that ruins the game. If anything it's a disgrace for Poland showing that they have no idea how to host a tournament. Thankfully we have good tournaments like Dreamhack that knows what the heck they are doing.


Let alone the shitty crowd. Kudos to NaNi.


Now that I thought about it for a while I´m pretty sure you are trolling... yeah that must be it!


You need to practice thinking a bit more then. I'm not trolling at all. What a classless bunch of troglodytes they are. Booing like that is not how it's supposed to be done. Perhaps in Poland, but not anywhere else.

I would've booed and I am not from poland. He behaved bad towards the tourney, his opponent and the crowd. That is justification enough for me.


You got to love winning more than you hate losing. And judging from how much NaNi hates losing there's no wonder he's the best foreigner (or was). Anything else is irrelevant. Booing like a bunch of enviromentally damaged alcoholics just reinforces the caricature of post-Sovjet countrymen being wrongfully brought up savages. It's saddening to see.

User was warned for this post
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 12:23:17
March 15 2014 12:22 GMT
#720
On March 15 2014 21:19 Datteln wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 21:08 arkedos wrote:
Show nested quote +



Errr what is bad about the production of IEM? I think it is really great so far.


Apart from the players hearing the casters and the crowd? I dunno. But that's reason enough to be worried.


Show nested quote +
3 - Naniwa if anyone has no moral right to complain
When playing vs Flash on MLG - Naniwa clearly had no shame in his body turning his scouting probe around when the crowd reacted to him missing Flashs proxy barracks.
http://youtu.be/yxSIqAXIqnw?t=2m10s



aaah fuck im just a bad poster.....gonna watch now this awesome iem tourney

Thanks for making the video show like that! =)
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
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