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Are you implying he semi-retired just because of the one series today? Lmao
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On Mlikeasuh 15 2014 11:11 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:07 lichter wrote:On March 15 2014 11:06 Helios.Star wrote:
I havent liked naniwa at times but really thats bullshit. How do events still occur with no soundproofing? How dont tournament organizers understand just how important this is? ReDeYe and Kennigit checked the soundproofing, and none of the other players had any issues (someone tweeted that the players were even laughing about the complaint because it was absurd). It sounds like a fishy situation as per anything related to Nani - he claims Polt could hear the casters as well, but I'm assuming neither Polt nor anyone else came forward and wanted to complain about it. Maybe Nani has it wrong? Who knows. But if they could hear casters and no one wanted to come forward and just act like everything is OK then we have a problem here boys and girls.
You born last week? Ninawa is insulting and hating anybody since 4 years. The problem is not why he takes a break now, it's why he's not gone so far.
We don't have a problem, we HAD a problem named Naniwa. Hopefully the problem will go back to studies and real life.
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On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T.
Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2.
Sometimes the glass just overflows.
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On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T.
Enduring locusts is so strong it allows you to rally them into other games.
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On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows.
And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM
It's so entertaining I watch it again.
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Maybe Naniwa and Idra should create a LoL team together :D
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On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM
Blizzard*
He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e.
Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did.
And it entertained you so why are you mad?
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On March 15 2014 11:11 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:07 lichter wrote:On March 15 2014 11:06 Helios.Star wrote:
I havent liked naniwa at times but really thats bullshit. How do events still occur with no soundproofing? How dont tournament organizers understand just how important this is? ReDeYe and Kennigit checked the soundproofing, and none of the other players had any issues (someone tweeted that the players were even laughing about the complaint because it was absurd). It sounds like a fishy situation as per anything related to Nani - he claims Polt could hear the casters as well, but I'm assuming neither Polt nor anyone else came forward and wanted to complain about it. Maybe Nani has it wrong? Who knows. But if they could hear casters and no one wanted to come forward and just act like everything is OK then we have a problem here boys and girls.
Polt's SCV was supposedly already queued on its way to the proxy before the crowd saw it along with the observer. The cheers were irrelevant.
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On March 15 2014 11:00 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 10:50 amiGo_O wrote:
"im glad to be done with this disgusting community for now, lets see how i feel in the future. i dont owe you anything." NaNiwa on his twitter just now ...
this is imho too much, even for weird guy like NaNiwa should know there are some boundaries He's 100% correct though - casters/people act like Nani has something to prove to them and has some obligation. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. People give him shit yet ironically enough stop watching tournaments once he's been eliminated because they're already bored. The scene (call it dead if you want, w/e) is slowly losing the players that help make it interesting and bringing people back. As cool as it is to see Koreans play well, they're (for the most part) pretty boring people who don't bring in stream numbers. Hope to see Nani back in the future but I don't blame him if he leaves, who would honestly still want to play given the current situation of the game and how odd the community is?
This is a pretty offensive post i think. What makes the Koreans boring people? I think the language barrier makes it harder for them to get their personality across but that doesn't make them boring people. Personally i think there are plenty of interesting Koreans. You don't have to rage quit tournaments and act like a douche in general to be interesting.
That's your personal opinion of the game. But if anything the viewership has stabilised and is even on the rise a little bit. The game right now is as good as it ever has been. Not sure what is supposed to be wrong with this community and you certainly haven't elaborated that point.
On March 15 2014 11:11 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:07 lichter wrote:On March 15 2014 11:06 Helios.Star wrote:
I havent liked naniwa at times but really thats bullshit. How do events still occur with no soundproofing? How dont tournament organizers understand just how important this is? ReDeYe and Kennigit checked the soundproofing, and none of the other players had any issues (someone tweeted that the players were even laughing about the complaint because it was absurd). It sounds like a fishy situation as per anything related to Nani - he claims Polt could hear the casters as well, but I'm assuming neither Polt nor anyone else came forward and wanted to complain about it. Maybe Nani has it wrong? Who knows. But if they could hear casters and no one wanted to come forward and just act like everything is OK then we have a problem here boys and girls.
Yeah except we know that Nani has it wrong. Not one other player has complained and everyone asked at the tournament has said it's not an issue. Every time sound proofing actually is an issue the players complain straight away. Both your posts come off as blindly trying to defend Naniwa when there is no need.
Naniwa doesn't owe the community anything and i have no problem with him leaving but his actions at this tournament deserve criticism. Frankly he has all but disappeared from the scene anyway and it has hardly missed him. Good luck to him in his future endeavors.
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On March 15 2014 11:24 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM Blizzard* He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e. Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did. And it entertained you so why are you mad?
because it didn't entertain him. and it made him mad?
Naniwa totally wasted that spot. Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right.
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On March 15 2014 11:24 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM Blizzard* He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e. Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did. And it entertained you so why are you mad?
Legally he had the right to do it . Moraly he behaved like an asshole and should take the blame for it and not invent shitty excuses.
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On March 15 2014 11:25 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:24 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM Blizzard* He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e. Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did. And it entertained you so why are you mad? because it didn't entertain him. and it made him mad? Naniwa totally wasted that spot. Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right.
Morally it is wrong but with his 2nd place he qualified fair and square.
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On March 15 2014 11:28 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:25 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 15 2014 11:24 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM Blizzard* He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e. Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did. And it entertained you so why are you mad? because it didn't entertain him. and it made him mad? Naniwa totally wasted that spot. Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right. Morally it is wrong but with his 2nd place he qualified fair and square.
and no one is arguing that so, hooray for bringing up a pointless point!
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On March 15 2014 11:24 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:11 beesinyoface wrote:On March 15 2014 11:07 lichter wrote:On March 15 2014 11:06 Helios.Star wrote:
I havent liked naniwa at times but really thats bullshit. How do events still occur with no soundproofing? How dont tournament organizers understand just how important this is? ReDeYe and Kennigit checked the soundproofing, and none of the other players had any issues (someone tweeted that the players were even laughing about the complaint because it was absurd). It sounds like a fishy situation as per anything related to Nani - he claims Polt could hear the casters as well, but I'm assuming neither Polt nor anyone else came forward and wanted to complain about it. Maybe Nani has it wrong? Who knows. But if they could hear casters and no one wanted to come forward and just act like everything is OK then we have a problem here boys and girls. Polt's SCV was supposedly already queued on its way to the proxy before the crowd saw it along with the observer. The cheers were irrelevant.
I just want to point out that you can clearly see in the vod that the SCV is queued to move near the spot before the crowd started to cheer. There is no way that soundproofing had any effect on this match.
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Just watched the rebroadcast. Can't believe NaNiWa actually threw his spot.
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On March 15 2014 11:29 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:28 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:25 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 15 2014 11:24 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM Blizzard* He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e. Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did. And it entertained you so why are you mad? because it didn't entertain him. and it made him mad? Naniwa totally wasted that spot. Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right. Morally it is wrong but with his 2nd place he qualified fair and square. and no one is arguing that so, hooray for bringing up a pointless point!
"Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right"
Are you for real now?
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On March 15 2014 11:25 ElBlanco wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:00 beesinyoface wrote:On March 15 2014 10:50 amiGo_O wrote:
"im glad to be done with this disgusting community for now, lets see how i feel in the future. i dont owe you anything." NaNiwa on his twitter just now ...
this is imho too much, even for weird guy like NaNiwa should know there are some boundaries He's 100% correct though - casters/people act like Nani has something to prove to them and has some obligation. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. People give him shit yet ironically enough stop watching tournaments once he's been eliminated because they're already bored. The scene (call it dead if you want, w/e) is slowly losing the players that help make it interesting and bringing people back. As cool as it is to see Koreans play well, they're (for the most part) pretty boring people who don't bring in stream numbers. Hope to see Nani back in the future but I don't blame him if he leaves, who would honestly still want to play given the current situation of the game and how odd the community is? This is a pretty offensive post i think. What makes the Koreans boring people? I think the language barrier makes it harder for them to get their personality across but that doesn't make them boring people. Personally i think there are plenty of interesting Koreans. You don't have to rage quit tournaments and act like a douche in general to be interesting. That's your personal opinion of the game. But if anything the viewership has stabilised and is even on the rise a little bit. The game right now is as good as it ever has been. Not sure what is supposed to be wrong with this community and you certainly haven't elaborated that point. Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:11 beesinyoface wrote:On March 15 2014 11:07 lichter wrote:On March 15 2014 11:06 Helios.Star wrote:
I havent liked naniwa at times but really thats bullshit. How do events still occur with no soundproofing? How dont tournament organizers understand just how important this is? ReDeYe and Kennigit checked the soundproofing, and none of the other players had any issues (someone tweeted that the players were even laughing about the complaint because it was absurd). It sounds like a fishy situation as per anything related to Nani - he claims Polt could hear the casters as well, but I'm assuming neither Polt nor anyone else came forward and wanted to complain about it. Maybe Nani has it wrong? Who knows. But if they could hear casters and no one wanted to come forward and just act like everything is OK then we have a problem here boys and girls. Yeah except we know that Nani has it wrong. Not one other player has complained and everyone asked at the tournament has said it's not an issue. Every time sound proofing actually is an issue the players complain straight away. Both your posts come off as blindly trying to defend Naniwa when there is no need. Naniwa doesn't owe the community anything and i have no problem with him leaving but his actions at this tournament deserve criticism. Frankly he has all but disappeared from the scene anyway and it has hardly missed him. Good luck to him in his future endeavors.
The game is as good as it's ever been? 40k viewers for one of the biggest tourneys of the year? Multiple progamers complaining about the same imbalanced units? The community asking the dev team to try to re-work major components of the game? You avin a giggle m8yroo? I'm sure they aren't boring people but it's how the majority come across to people - you don't see any of them having the same kind of story lines/drama/whatever as you do with NA players. Sure some of the attention that the NA players bring is not in a positive light, but it's still better than nothing and if you don't undertsand that point then I guess I'm barking at the wrong tree here.
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On March 15 2014 11:30 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:29 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 15 2014 11:28 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:25 jmbthirteen wrote:On March 15 2014 11:24 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:21 HerrHorst wrote:On March 15 2014 11:18 Tobblish wrote:On March 15 2014 11:16 ACrow wrote:On March 15 2014 10:59 HelpMeGetBetter wrote:
He's just upset at the state of the game right now (swarm hosts for example), that is the reason. not his fault, and he's not the only one who thinks the game is in a bad place right now Yeah, those Swarm Hosts really ruined his scouted proxy cheese vs T. Last time I checked he played Starcraft 2. Sometimes the glass just overflows. And Starcraft 2 forced him to behave like an asshole? Nerf pls, riot! No passion for the game? Fine, don't play at IEM Blizzard* He was invited because of his performance in a older tournament, totally his right to take the flight and do w/e. Is it a shit move? Yup one could say that. But he still have total right to do what he did. And it entertained you so why are you mad? because it didn't entertain him. and it made him mad? Naniwa totally wasted that spot. Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right. Morally it is wrong but with his 2nd place he qualified fair and square. and no one is arguing that so, hooray for bringing up a pointless point! "Sure he had the "right to do so" but that doesn't make it right" Are you for real now?
how does saying he has the right to proxy gateway and then quit after losing one game equal saying he didn't qualify fair and square for the tournament???
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On March 15 2014 11:33 beesinyoface wrote:Show nested quote +On March 15 2014 11:25 ElBlanco wrote:On March 15 2014 11:00 beesinyoface wrote:On March 15 2014 10:50 amiGo_O wrote:
"im glad to be done with this disgusting community for now, lets see how i feel in the future. i dont owe you anything." NaNiwa on his twitter just now ...
this is imho too much, even for weird guy like NaNiwa should know there are some boundaries He's 100% correct though - casters/people act like Nani has something to prove to them and has some obligation. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. People give him shit yet ironically enough stop watching tournaments once he's been eliminated because they're already bored. The scene (call it dead if you want, w/e) is slowly losing the players that help make it interesting and bringing people back. As cool as it is to see Koreans play well, they're (for the most part) pretty boring people who don't bring in stream numbers. Hope to see Nani back in the future but I don't blame him if he leaves, who would honestly still want to play given the current situation of the game and how odd the community is? This is a pretty offensive post i think. What makes the Koreans boring people? I think the language barrier makes it harder for them to get their personality across but that doesn't make them boring people. Personally i think there are plenty of interesting Koreans. You don't have to rage quit tournaments and act like a douche in general to be interesting. That's your personal opinion of the game. But if anything the viewership has stabilised and is even on the rise a little bit. The game right now is as good as it ever has been. Not sure what is supposed to be wrong with this community and you certainly haven't elaborated that point. On March 15 2014 11:11 beesinyoface wrote:On March 15 2014 11:07 lichter wrote:On March 15 2014 11:06 Helios.Star wrote:
I havent liked naniwa at times but really thats bullshit. How do events still occur with no soundproofing? How dont tournament organizers understand just how important this is? ReDeYe and Kennigit checked the soundproofing, and none of the other players had any issues (someone tweeted that the players were even laughing about the complaint because it was absurd). It sounds like a fishy situation as per anything related to Nani - he claims Polt could hear the casters as well, but I'm assuming neither Polt nor anyone else came forward and wanted to complain about it. Maybe Nani has it wrong? Who knows. But if they could hear casters and no one wanted to come forward and just act like everything is OK then we have a problem here boys and girls. Yeah except we know that Nani has it wrong. Not one other player has complained and everyone asked at the tournament has said it's not an issue. Every time sound proofing actually is an issue the players complain straight away. Both your posts come off as blindly trying to defend Naniwa when there is no need. Naniwa doesn't owe the community anything and i have no problem with him leaving but his actions at this tournament deserve criticism. Frankly he has all but disappeared from the scene anyway and it has hardly missed him. Good luck to him in his future endeavors. The game is as good as it's ever been? 40k viewers for one of the biggest tourneys of the year? You avin a giggle m8yroo? I'm sure they aren't boring people but it's how the majority come across to people - you don't see any of them having the same kind of story lines/drama/whatever as you do with NA players. Sure some of the attention that the NA players bring is not in a positive light, but it's still better than nothing and if you don't undertsand that point then I guess I'm barking at the wrong tree here.
40k viewers while it aired at a crappy time for US and it was still a weekday? And thats higher than what IEM usually gets on a Friday? Yeah i think its ok. It will hit over 100k this weekend.
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Hey there,
first of all i want to say that i mostly never liked Naniwas behaviour in the past. And yes in my oppinion: he is a d**k often But:
He doenst feel well and decided to take a brake. He is gone now and u should just be happy or whatever. But stomping him here doenst make u better than the booing sc2 fans at stage or doenst make u better than Naniwas behaviour at some point. Just think about it....
@ Stephanos twitter post:
*headshaking* all i want to reply is: grab ur own nose..... Stephano: “Sam, I abused a child yesterday”......gz......
@ Soundproofed Booth:
Naninwa could hear the croud cheer....i think this is obvious...this cheering 100% did NOT help polt to win the game, but it states that the booths are not 100% sound proven....Just think about it.....
just my cent
Enjoy IEM Katowice kurwa 
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