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NaNiwa forfeits mid-series at IEM Katowice - Page 14

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Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
March 14 2014 18:36 GMT
#261
On March 15 2014 02:49 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 02:46 Zaqwe wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:43 Whatson wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:14 Gr33d wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:12 Daralii wrote:
On March 15 2014 02:09 Headnoob wrote:
Pretty pathetic that soundproofing isn't something that's been addressed in years.


There is no soundproofing issue. NaNi's trying to stir shit up on his way out, nothing more.


With ESL history of not-so-perfect tournament conditions I would not rule out a sound issue. It would not be the first time players can hear the crowd / casters, especially if it gets realy loud.




Naniwa was in the booth and heard the crowd.

So he says.
If the LoL players aren't having issues, there's no reason sc2 players should have issues.

LoL players are used to playing on open stages with big screens behind them, which at least once resulted in a player cheating. Dont really think their opinion is relevant to be honest.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
fmod
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Cayman Islands330 Posts
March 14 2014 18:36 GMT
#262
These "xD"s that he throws around make it all seem so moronic.
I don't particularly like you.
pms
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland611 Posts
March 14 2014 18:37 GMT
#263
On March 15 2014 03:32 Dismay wrote:
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On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote:

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?


How about you read the thread OP, then? Why are you even posting in the thread if you don't know what everyone is complaining about?


Freedom of speech?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
March 14 2014 18:38 GMT
#264
It's hard to tell the exact reasoning but it seems that he has exited the pro scene in a less than ideal way.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1422 Posts
March 14 2014 18:39 GMT
#265
On March 15 2014 01:31 Rollora wrote:
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On March 15 2014 01:27 bosstoss2013 wrote:
NaNiwa is worse than Idra.

no he is not.
Idra wouldn't have GG'd and left without further comment, leaving everybody puzzled

idra would have played the whole series. maybe he would've ragequitted most of the games, but he at least knows what it means to be a proffessional on the most basic level.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 14 2014 18:40 GMT
#266
On March 15 2014 03:37 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 03:32 Dismay wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote:

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?


How about you read the thread OP, then? Why are you even posting in the thread if you don't know what everyone is complaining about?


Freedom of speech?


This is a minor nitpick but there is no freedom of speech on TeamLiquid
AdministratorBreak the chains
HorsemasterK
Profile Joined August 2010
United States606 Posts
March 14 2014 18:40 GMT
#267
It's like watching a tragedy.

All the talent and none of the composure. This kid is his own worst enemy.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20343 Posts
March 14 2014 18:40 GMT
#268
On March 15 2014 03:39 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 01:31 Rollora wrote:
On March 15 2014 01:27 bosstoss2013 wrote:
NaNiwa is worse than Idra.

no he is not.
Idra wouldn't have GG'd and left without further comment, leaving everybody puzzled

idra would have played the whole series. maybe he would've ragequitted most of the games, but he at least knows what it means to be a proffessional on the most basic level.


The same IdrA who 6pooled three games in a row iirc in a pretty big and anticipated series?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
March 14 2014 18:40 GMT
#269
No defense of Nani's actions today. He left the SC2 community making sure no one will welcome him back should he ever change his mind.

Bye nani. Your antics aren't funny or endearning. They just waste all of our time. You had some great games and showed some great skill, but I won't miss you now.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 14 2014 18:41 GMT
#270
That's a shame.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
March 14 2014 18:41 GMT
#271
lol naniwa leaving in such a BM way....how fitting
Dismay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1180 Posts
March 14 2014 18:43 GMT
#272
On March 15 2014 03:37 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 03:32 Dismay wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote:

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?


How about you read the thread OP, then? Why are you even posting in the thread if you don't know what everyone is complaining about?


Freedom of speech?


You'll excuse me if I discard your opinion as uninformed then.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same.
SebaZ
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy223 Posts
March 14 2014 18:45 GMT
#273
On March 15 2014 01:33 Firkraag8 wrote:
He's very direct and goes about things inappropriately but would he lie about it?

Remember that time he blamed his bad performance on PC performance issues, while no one else at the tournament had problems with the same gear? That's just how naniwa is. He's a crybaby.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 14 2014 18:47 GMT
#274
Naniwa will playing the new HOTS i bet
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 14 2014 18:47 GMT
#275
Naniwa <3
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 14 2014 18:48 GMT
#276
On March 15 2014 03:37 pms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2014 03:32 Dismay wrote:
On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote:

I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness?


How about you read the thread OP, then? Why are you even posting in the thread if you don't know what everyone is complaining about?


Freedom of speech?
Haha, really?


Ontopic: Just reading the op, this doesnt seem very positive for Naniwa. I can fully understand his frustration, thinking the cabin isnt soundproof, but i think there are two sides. Suppose the organization guy doesnt agree with him. Would you change the set up of both booths mid-series for a reason you don't agree with? I sure wouldn't. If Naniwa's right, which we don't know (or i dont at least), the organization should take responsibility, whatever consequences that may have. I don't think forfeiting like this is a solution to anything.
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
March 14 2014 18:51 GMT
#277
If there really were soundproofing problems AND the admin failed to do anything about it, he should've used that to his advantage instead of being an unprofessional crybaby and forfeiting the series.
boski055
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland32 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-14 18:53:38
March 14 2014 18:51 GMT
#278
Lets be rational. We need more data to reach a conclusion there is a sound proof issue. Perhaps an opinion from not biased source aka other players. Nani wrote on twitter day before IEM that he doesnt play the game cause hes burned out. This means he was not properly prepared for the tournament and had no chance winning anything given all koreans play 12 hours a day everyday. He knew he had no chance winning any money in winner takes all tourny. In fact i think he knew very well he had no chance. Now, he has accused other tournaments of sound proof issues which were proven to be false. That throws this claim under the "to be proven box". Given the circumstances I don't believe him and I think he was just looking for a way out. All the fan boys need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. That said, the Katowice Arena is really big and there are a lot of people there. There is a possibility that he heard yelling crowd when the LOL game ended on the stage close by. Who knows, we don't know as there is no conclusive evidence to support his claim neither is anyone else complaining. Being highly critical and straight up bashing the whole IEM finals is quite stupid so hold your horses fan boys.
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility." Albert Einstein
Maegi
Profile Joined January 2013
Finland174 Posts
March 14 2014 18:53 GMT
#279
Naniwa <3 <3
NaNiwa <3
TmzZ666
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland144 Posts
March 14 2014 18:53 GMT
#280
On March 15 2014 03:51 boski055 wrote:
Lets be rational. We need more data to reach a conclusion there is a sound proof issue. Perhaps an opinion from not biased source aka other players. Nani wrote on twitter day before IEM that he doesnt play the game cause hes burned out. This means he was not properly prepared for the tournament and had no chance winning anything given all koreans play 12 hours a day everyday. He knew he had no chance winning any money in winner takes all tourny. In fact i think he knew very well he had no chance. Now, he has accused other tournaments of sound proof issues which were proven to be false. That throws this claim under the "to be proven box". Given the circumstances I don't believe him and I think he was just looking for a way out. All the fan boys need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture. That said, the Katowice Arena is really big and there are a lot of people there. There is a possibility that he heard yelling crowd when the LOL game ended on the stage close by. Who knows, we don't know as there is no conclusive evidence to support his claim not is anyone else complaining. Being highly critical and straight up bashing the whole IEM finals is quite stupid so hold your horses fan boys.


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