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Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 14:23:00
March 13 2014 14:19 GMT
#361
He'll be back ........they all come back eventually .....

When he realizes this while not perfect is still the most thrill you will ever get out of a video game....
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
March 13 2014 14:30 GMT
#362
On March 13 2014 23:12 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I read his posts and see a little child who hasn't gotten his way so he's throwing a temper tantrum and covering it with smiley faces. Good bye, not that many will miss you honestly.

OF course, he will be back. This is just him trying to get his way, or attention, or both. He forgot to say what he wanted, though.


No, not at all.

Barely interacting with the community for several weeks and then saying "I don't enjoy this game anymore so I don't think I will keep playing" isn't a "tantrum". No idea how you managed to interpret it that way.

And you can dislike him all you want, saying that not a lot of people will miss him isn't even remotely true. Aside from Idra and Stephano (and possibly one or two others), he has one of the biggest fanbases amoung foreign players in the history of the game.

Besides, your accusation doesn't even make any sense; why would he stop playing for a month (confirmed by his in-game history) right before a 100,000 dollar tournament just to get attention? Where are you getting this stuff from?
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
March 13 2014 14:37 GMT
#363
On March 13 2014 23:12 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I read his posts and see a little child who hasn't gotten his way so he's throwing a temper tantrum and covering it with smiley faces. Good bye, not that many will miss you honestly.

OF course, he will be back. This is just him trying to get his way, or attention, or both. He forgot to say what he wanted, though.

You make THIS post in the pause announcement thread of a player and then blame HIM on seeking attention? Don' you see the irony?
Gothic
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden122 Posts
March 13 2014 14:45 GMT
#364
I'm quite sure Naniwa didn't do this "for attention".

In fact, it feels like this was not a decision that came easily to him, and it's why he's leaving a small door open for coming back eventually - if things feel better for him. That's way more than he would have said if he was an attention seeking drama queen. If he does come back, I think it's going to be because he onced loved this game and wants to give it another shot before giving up completely.
In the age of the internet, attaching a famous name to your personal opinion to give more weight to it is a very valid strategy. - Benjamin Franklin
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 13 2014 14:53 GMT
#365
On March 13 2014 04:17 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:16 Meki wrote:
" i just dont like the game anymore and i feel like blizzard will take a super long time to fix it."

With this he means Terran being imba vs Protoss?

I believe he's talking about Swarm Host. Naniwa's always been very vocal about his distaste of the unit.

while at the same time going void-ray HT
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
March 13 2014 15:02 GMT
#366
On March 13 2014 23:53 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 04:17 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:16 Meki wrote:
" i just dont like the game anymore and i feel like blizzard will take a super long time to fix it."

With this he means Terran being imba vs Protoss?

I believe he's talking about Swarm Host. Naniwa's always been very vocal about his distaste of the unit.

while at the same time going void-ray HT

You do what you need to win.
Lets start from begining. Blizzard fracked up the basics with SC2 but that is a huge topic so I will just focus on units.
Sentry/Colossi and MMM both are crazy powerful so Zerg came with game breaking Broodlord/Infestor that was accused of destroying WoL. Then Blizzard to fix this in HotS nerfed Infestors to the ground and gave hard counters to Broodlords and gave zerg Swarm Hosts instead. But zerg now has no proper lategame and uses the slowest and most boring unit in SC2 as late game army before doing huge tech switches with massive larva saving (which is also a fucked up design for SC2 but is needed for current state of the game) to finish the game.
And this problem was created because Blizzard does not want to fix the basics, and keeps on piling and piling stupid modifications that don't do anything good for the game.
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 15:33:38
March 13 2014 15:30 GMT
#367
On March 14 2014 00:02 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 23:53 Ej_ wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:17 ssxsilver wrote:
On March 13 2014 04:16 Meki wrote:
" i just dont like the game anymore and i feel like blizzard will take a super long time to fix it."

With this he means Terran being imba vs Protoss?

I believe he's talking about Swarm Host. Naniwa's always been very vocal about his distaste of the unit.

while at the same time going void-ray HT

You do what you need to win.
Lets start from begining. Blizzard fracked up the basics with SC2 but that is a huge topic so I will just focus on units.
Sentry/Colossi and MMM both are crazy powerful so Zerg came with game breaking Broodlord/Infestor that was accused of destroying WoL. Then Blizzard to fix this in HotS nerfed Infestors to the ground and gave hard counters to Broodlords and gave zerg Swarm Hosts instead. But zerg now has no proper lategame and uses the slowest and most boring unit in SC2 as late game army before doing huge tech switches with massive larva saving (which is also a fucked up design for SC2 but is needed for current state of the game) to finish the game.
And this problem was created because Blizzard does not want to fix the basics, and keeps on piling and piling stupid modifications that don't do anything good for the game.


Not really. Piling on stupid modifications would imply that that the game just keeps getting worse, which isn't true. Gameplay-wise, Swarm Hosts are a huge issue, PvP is random, and so is early game TvP to some extent. Aside from that, the game is better than ever in almost every match-up. All Terran matchups are more entertaining and varied than in WoL, and the same goes for ZvZ. And as boring as Swarm Hosts can be, they still don't show up often enough to make PvZ as frustrating to watch as the BL + Infestor-filled lategame PvZ in WoL. Fixing Swarm Hosts is important, but aside from that, PvZ has much more room for variation and different compositions and strategies than in WoL. I mean, we have useful Hydras and viable Stargate play! How cool is that?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to claim that the game is perfect and that there aren't some (massive) problems that Blizzard should have fixed months ago, but these one-sided "omg dis game sux blizz dont care liek if you cry evrytiem"-posts are getting really old. No offence.

Also, just as a sidenote: BL + Infestor wasn't game-breaking from the beginning; the composition didn't become a huge problem until after the Queen buff in May 2012. In 2011, ling + bling + muta vs Terran was the standard, as far as I can remember.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
March 13 2014 15:53 GMT
#368
Man that's sad... It's been depressing seeing all the old stars slowly fall away or retire. But at least it always felt like there was a hope of Naniwa succeeding. Who's left now? Scarlett is arguably the only serious foreign hope, and isn't she taking a break too?

It felt like things were slowing down, but this feels like the last bit...

Not that SC2 is dead, but the era of foreigners seriously competing, the era of all the old greats. Bummer...
For Aiur???
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
March 13 2014 15:59 GMT
#369
On March 14 2014 00:53 Fighter wrote:
Man that's sad... It's been depressing seeing all the old stars slowly fall away or retire. But at least it always felt like there was a hope of Naniwa succeeding. Who's left now? Scarlett is arguably the only serious foreign hope, and isn't she taking a break too?

It felt like things were slowing down, but this feels like the last bit...

Not that SC2 is dead, but the era of foreigners seriously competing, the era of all the old greats. Bummer...


Yeah, Scarlett talked about possibly retiring sometime during 2014. Bummer indeed.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-13 16:26:27
March 13 2014 16:17 GMT
#370
On March 14 2014 00:59 RaZorwire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:53 Fighter wrote:
Man that's sad... It's been depressing seeing all the old stars slowly fall away or retire. But at least it always felt like there was a hope of Naniwa succeeding. Who's left now? Scarlett is arguably the only serious foreign hope, and isn't she taking a break too?

It felt like things were slowing down, but this feels like the last bit...

Not that SC2 is dead, but the era of foreigners seriously competing, the era of all the old greats. Bummer...


Yeah, Scarlett talked about possibly retiring sometime during 2014. Bummer indeed.

For the (hopefully) last time, she is leaving for Korea in a few days to stay several months at least, she is basically going to put her face to the grind over in Korea. That does not seem very retirementesque to me.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 13 2014 16:22 GMT
#371
On March 14 2014 01:17 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:59 RaZorwire wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:53 Fighter wrote:
Man that's sad... It's been depressing seeing all the old stars slowly fall away or retire. But at least it always felt like there was a hope of Naniwa succeeding. Who's left now? Scarlett is arguably the only serious foreign hope, and isn't she taking a break too?

It felt like things were slowing down, but this feels like the last bit...

Not that SC2 is dead, but the era of foreigners seriously competing, the era of all the old greats. Bummer...


Yeah, Scarlett talked about possibly retiring sometime during 2014. Bummer indeed.

For the (hopefully) last time, she is leaving for Korea in a few weeks to stay several months at least, she is basically going to put her face to the grind over in Korea. That does not seem very retirementesque to me.

It's getting to the point that this thread about Naniwa needs a mod note about Scarlett :/
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Vandrad
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany951 Posts
March 13 2014 16:25 GMT
#372
On March 13 2014 23:19 Pirfiktshon wrote:
He'll be back ........they all come back eventually .....

When he realizes this while not perfect is still the most thrill you will ever get out of a video game....


Actually quite true.

SeleCt came back, Coca came back for a short time. Even Destiny did
And who are you, the proud lord said, that I must bow so low?
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
March 13 2014 16:41 GMT
#373
He will forever be known as The Kong In The North.
ArtistenSc2
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden53 Posts
March 13 2014 16:54 GMT
#374
NANI...!
Really hoped he would push on for another exciting year but guess all the unwanted drama really took it's toll also :-(
hmm, can't really think of any other EU/NA-player that I like to watch now.
Or that are actually able of beating Koreans, over and over...
Think this will be the end for me as well.

Nani - the very best foreigner overall in SC2 ! Creds!

best foreigner ever, Naniwa, WB!!
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
March 13 2014 16:55 GMT
#375
On March 14 2014 01:25 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2014 23:19 Pirfiktshon wrote:
He'll be back ........they all come back eventually .....

When he realizes this while not perfect is still the most thrill you will ever get out of a video game....


Actually quite true.

SeleCt came back, Coca came back for a short time. Even Destiny did


jaeh but all sucked after they came back, no one was good ever again
if naniwa leaves i doubt he comes back because if he not wins, he not have fun xD
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
RaZorwire
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden718 Posts
March 13 2014 21:33 GMT
#376
On March 14 2014 01:17 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2014 00:59 RaZorwire wrote:
On March 14 2014 00:53 Fighter wrote:
Man that's sad... It's been depressing seeing all the old stars slowly fall away or retire. But at least it always felt like there was a hope of Naniwa succeeding. Who's left now? Scarlett is arguably the only serious foreign hope, and isn't she taking a break too?

It felt like things were slowing down, but this feels like the last bit...

Not that SC2 is dead, but the era of foreigners seriously competing, the era of all the old greats. Bummer...


Yeah, Scarlett talked about possibly retiring sometime during 2014. Bummer indeed.

For the (hopefully) last time, she is leaving for Korea in a few days to stay several months at least, she is basically going to put her face to the grind over in Korea. That does not seem very retirementesque to me.


Yeah, totally forgot about that, sorry. She DID mention a couple of months ago that she was thinking of retiring though, good to hear she seems to have changed her mind.
Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
March 13 2014 21:39 GMT
#377
I hope he does well at IEM and gets some motivation back!
atuor
Profile Joined July 2010
United States83 Posts
March 13 2014 21:43 GMT
#378
I think Naniwa is playing mind games. Hopefully he's feeling confident but just putting this information out there to throw off early opponents.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#379
I think Naniwa is really good at making snide comments on twitter so I think this is a good career move
Zerg for Life
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18499 Posts
March 13 2014 21:44 GMT
#380
On March 14 2014 06:43 atuor wrote:
I think Naniwa is playing mind games. Hopefully he's feeling confident but just putting this information out there to throw off early opponents.


because everyone reads TL? :p
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