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Akaann
Profile Joined May 2011
Switzerland82 Posts
January 25 2014 09:08 GMT
#221
Damn, and I throw 20$ out of the window to subscribe this shitty season.

Please Gom give the Spot to TY. He maybe doesn't deserved it, but he seems to be the only one able to win against Z or P. Now Gom should care only about the viewers experience...
https://www.instagram.com/luke4power/
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
January 25 2014 09:10 GMT
#222
If TY or Inno got a seed I would watch even the PvPs and support a toss this season for all will be forgiven (kinda)
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
EDTA
Profile Joined July 2013
China4 Posts
January 25 2014 09:17 GMT
#223
the champion will be sos
Skaya
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
January 25 2014 09:30 GMT
#224
Gone are the days of GomTvT...

even though i have a personal hatred for the terran race, it's going to be kind of dry when you look at possible matchups.
Hopefully a superstar terran can get jjakji's spot and make it far.

Need some flavor in there
Obender99
Profile Joined September 2012
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 09:35:47
January 25 2014 09:30 GMT
#225
Really sad so few Terran's made it. This season will be endless ZvZ PvP mirrors, the two most boring matchups.
LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
January 25 2014 09:34 GMT
#226
in before three terran in top 4
:-)
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
January 25 2014 09:39 GMT
#227
On January 25 2014 18:05 seak99 wrote:
Its funny how Terrans used to "be just better" then all the protoss and zerg. Now looking back we all realize/knew that it was imbalanced. Now all the Protoss and Zerg are "just better" then the Terrans. Now some of us know that its imbalanced and others will look back and realize that it was.

Whether Protoss needs a nerf or Terran needs a buff in general I'm not 100% on right now.

Its not that terran can't win against protoss .. Terran can win in a tvp but its just that it takes a lot more effort for them to win against a protoss than a protoss winning against a terran. In short even the best protoss can lose against a best terran. Its just that a best terran can also easily lose to a protoss that is not on the same level with the the best protoss. At least that how i see it.
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
January 25 2014 09:42 GMT
#228
oh man i was actually looking forward for this GSL since its a new year but after seeing the participant list i don't feel the same anymore. It's gonna be so boring that even Life being one of the participants in won't even matter.
this is a quote
Obender99
Profile Joined September 2012
United States31 Posts
January 25 2014 09:43 GMT
#229
My opinion re: race balance is this

There are meta game shifts constantly occurring in this game, Its not that Z and P are better then T, its just that at the moment they have solved the puzzle and now T needs time to adjust.
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
January 25 2014 09:46 GMT
#230
I've an idea.
Let's organize a 3 way tie between : Innovation, Ty, and Flash.
Would be quite fun.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
January 25 2014 09:46 GMT
#231
On January 25 2014 18:43 Obender99 wrote:
My opinion re: race balance is this

There are meta game shifts constantly occurring in this game, Its not that Z and P are better then T, its just that at the moment they have solved the puzzle and now T needs time to adjust.

I hope you are right that this is just a metagame thing. Because at this rate as much as i love sc2 if this continues starbow may have more viewers and players than sc2 later this year and hell even broodwar will be fully revived at this rate. Not that its a bad thing for starbow or BW to prosper.
this is a quote
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
January 25 2014 09:54 GMT
#232
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 25 2014 10:02 GMT
#233
On January 25 2014 18:54 Orek wrote:
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This is well done, and may I request in about 2 GSL seasons when it flips back to having 15 terrans in Code S that you show it with updated data to show that times change, and do so rapidly
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 25 2014 10:03 GMT
#234
On January 25 2014 18:43 Obender99 wrote:
My opinion re: race balance is this

There are meta game shifts constantly occurring in this game, Its not that Z and P are better then T, its just that at the moment they have solved the puzzle and now T needs time to adjust.


there is no counterplay to a good blink player on a blink friendly map that puts you ahead. You're at best even, at worst your dead. And in the current map pool almost every map is blink friendly.
Zest fanboy.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
January 25 2014 10:04 GMT
#235
On January 25 2014 19:03 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 18:43 Obender99 wrote:
My opinion re: race balance is this

There are meta game shifts constantly occurring in this game, Its not that Z and P are better then T, its just that at the moment they have solved the puzzle and now T needs time to adjust.


there is no counterplay to a good blink player on a blink friendly map that puts you ahead. You're at best even, at worst your dead. And in the current map pool almost every map is blink friendly.


Build bunkers and then actually fill them, which for some reason every terran in every WCS region isn't doing, they build the bunkers, leave them empty and then GG
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:18:01
January 25 2014 10:17 GMT
#236
On January 25 2014 18:54 Orek wrote:
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Code A winrates:
TvZ: 21games, 10-11: 48%
ZvP: 35games, 20-15: 57%
PvT: 39games, 31-8: 79%
TvT: 8games
ZvZ: 5games
PvP: 14games

Code A participating players:
Terran: 15
Zerg: 16
Protoss: 17

Qualified for Code S through Code A:
Terran: 2
Zerg: 11
Protoss: 11

Qualified for Code S from previous season:
Terran: 2 1 (jjakji forfeit)
Zerg: 2
Protoss: 4
1 open spot
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:24:18
January 25 2014 10:23 GMT
#237
On January 25 2014 19:04 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 19:03 sAsImre wrote:
On January 25 2014 18:43 Obender99 wrote:
My opinion re: race balance is this

There are meta game shifts constantly occurring in this game, Its not that Z and P are better then T, its just that at the moment they have solved the puzzle and now T needs time to adjust.


there is no counterplay to a good blink player on a blink friendly map that puts you ahead. You're at best even, at worst your dead. And in the current map pool almost every map is blink friendly.


Build bunkers and then actually fill them, which for some reason every terran in every WCS region isn't doing, they build the bunkers, leave them empty and then GG


you're joking right? The problem isn't defending the blink all in is that if the P doesn't commit he gets ahead on upg/eco 5min later and you can't punish his 3rd on the current map pool. Inno vs herO on Frost ie.
+ if you got 8pop on your ramp on yeonsu ie you die if the P blinks in your main and engages you with a time warp.

ppl not playing the game and making stupid comments as to be the most painful thing on TL gosh
Zest fanboy.
Obender99
Profile Joined September 2012
United States31 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:25:06
January 25 2014 10:23 GMT
#238

Code A participating players:
Terran: 15
Zerg: 16
Protoss: 17

Qualified for Code S through Code A:
Terran: 2
Zerg: 11
Protoss: 11

Are you not forgetting the fact that 15 Terran players made it into Code A?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-25 10:25:55
January 25 2014 10:25 GMT
#239
On January 25 2014 19:23 Obender99 wrote:
Are you not forgetting the fact that 15 Terran players made it into Code A?


only 9, the lowest number from code B. (12Z, 15P)
Zest fanboy.
Obender99
Profile Joined September 2012
United States31 Posts
January 25 2014 10:26 GMT
#240
On January 25 2014 19:23 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 19:04 LongShot27 wrote:
On January 25 2014 19:03 sAsImre wrote:
On January 25 2014 18:43 Obender99 wrote:
My opinion re: race balance is this

There are meta game shifts constantly occurring in this game, Its not that Z and P are better then T, its just that at the moment they have solved the puzzle and now T needs time to adjust.


there is no counterplay to a good blink player on a blink friendly map that puts you ahead. You're at best even, at worst your dead. And in the current map pool almost every map is blink friendly.


Build bunkers and then actually fill them, which for some reason every terran in every WCS region isn't doing, they build the bunkers, leave them empty and then GG


you're joking right? The problem isn't defending the blink all in is that if the P doesn't commit he gets ahead on upg/eco 5min later and you can't punish his 3rd on the current map pool. Inno vs herO on Frost ie.
+ if you got 8pop on your ramp on yeonsu ie you die if the P blinks in your main and engages you with a time warp.

ppl not playing the game and making stupid comments as to be the most painful thing on TL gosh


I agree that the current map pool is not balanced. This will change soon enough.
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