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Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
January 10 2014 23:21 GMT
#21
Freelancer veteran
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
January 10 2014 23:22 GMT
#22
On January 11 2014 08:15 Canucklehead wrote:
Hype from foreigner fans and casters, notably, Mr. Bitter just crushed him. The weight of hype and expectations seemed too much for him and just crushed him to the point where he would just utterly fail at every offline event.

Casters never let the lucifron hype train grow naturally from results like say a scarlett, instead the casters just hyped him as a favourite at every event he went to. All those failures probably took a toll on his mindset causing his leave of absence you see today.

I will never forget the first time I took notice of the lucifron hype train as before this match I never really paid much attention to it. It was during one of those small 8 player dh invitationals. Can't remember which one, but I think it was dh valencia. Lucifron was facing DRG at his beastly peak when DRG was wrecking gstl and stuff. The casters were hyping lucifron so much this tourney and were predicting him to win it all and that he would beat DRG. DRG proceeded to 2-0 lucifron in 2 very one sided bops.

It's also b/c he had massive potential dating back to WC3. Hard to go under-the-radar when even fellow programers peg you as the person to watch out for.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
January 10 2014 23:28 GMT
#23
I guess foreigners that want to take a year off going fulltime need to spend the first months of that in Korea. They can't funnel the additional time to get significantly better by playing on EU ladder to give them better tournament results, work ethic or no.
Cassalina
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States65 Posts
January 10 2014 23:30 GMT
#24
i was a county award winning athlete in high school - and got multiple scholarships to play in division 1 level college programs. My mom made sure that I made straight a's and even after college pursued a higher level of education. always have something to fall back on, because sports (including esports) can take a sudden change in direction (for example you might get injured), and at least you have a secondary plan to support yourself

I always support taking a break to resume studies and accomplish an important milestone in life like your education. I really hope more and more pro gamers continue to value education, while still owning everyone in their perspective games

as a former war3 player myself, i must say i'm very proud of Lucifron and the effect he has had on Starcraft 2. It's great to see war3 players transition successfully

good luck and hope to see you back!
"advance solidly, fight solidly"
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 10 2014 23:31 GMT
#25
On January 11 2014 07:44 Dodgin wrote:
RIP Lucifron Hype Train 9/16/12 - 1/10/14

You're welcome on the MarineLorD Hype Train whenever you want.

Good luck LucifroN, you'll be missed. But I think we'll see you in the future.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Bachatita
Profile Joined December 2013
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 23:35:38
January 10 2014 23:35 GMT
#26
#RESPECT ;(
Oakenshield
Profile Joined January 2013
United States347 Posts
January 10 2014 23:35 GMT
#27
I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes?
VieuxSinge
Profile Joined February 2011
France231 Posts
January 10 2014 23:36 GMT
#28
Farewell Lucifron, you were the best terran EU and we'll miss you.

So, who will be the new foreign Terran hope EU?
Thorzain doesn't seem to be at his top form right now. Dayshi has switched to random. Maybe Uthermal will show some good games? Oh let's not forget about Happy who was so good lately
Another clue to my existence.
Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
January 10 2014 23:38 GMT
#29
No... But now there's just one Duran brother
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
January 10 2014 23:38 GMT
#30
Ah shame, the last time I saw him win a broadcasted match was painfully long ago..
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
PPN
Profile Joined August 2011
France248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 23:45:40
January 10 2014 23:43 GMT
#31
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote:
I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes?

Polt I guess?

I always thought Lucifron was good but maybe a bit too overhyped. Also never forget the Thor drop.

vjcamarena
Profile Joined October 2013
Spain493 Posts
January 10 2014 23:45 GMT
#32
Love your play Lucifron! Do good in your studies, and if you want to come back at any point, know we'll be waiting for you
Ánimo Luci! Go Lucifron!
Mvp and ForGG! - Vortix FTW - Never forget Lucifron
Avs
Profile Joined November 2010
Korea (North)857 Posts
January 10 2014 23:56 GMT
#33
On January 11 2014 08:28 SinCitta wrote:
I guess foreigners that want to take a year off going fulltime need to spend the first months of that in Korea. They can't funnel the additional time to get significantly better by playing on EU ladder to give them better tournament results, work ethic or no.


It's less about skill and more about whether there is any money they can significantly earn. Non-koreans barely earn enough to make it a full time job.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
January 11 2014 00:06 GMT
#34
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote:
I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes?

MaNa in 2011/2012, Thorzain, pretty sure both LucifroN and VortiX were studying at the same time, Heromarine, Maru....
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Ruin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States271 Posts
January 11 2014 00:07 GMT
#35
LucifroN t.t
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 11 2014 00:09 GMT
#36
On January 11 2014 09:06 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote:
I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes?

MaNa in 2011/2012, Thorzain, pretty sure both LucifroN and VortiX were studying at the same time, Heromarine, Maru....

I think lots of young Korean pros go to some kind of school which is just incredibly throwaway that they only do for the sake of doing it and to have at least some form of back up.
Glorious SEA doto
mostwanted
Profile Joined March 2011
83 Posts
January 11 2014 00:13 GMT
#37
his win/loss explains it all:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/1603_LucifroN
mouz.Wake
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden136 Posts
January 11 2014 00:15 GMT
#38
On January 11 2014 08:38 Sjokola wrote:
No... But now there's just one Duran brother


FORMER StarCraft II Team Manager for mousesports || @I_am_Wake
LamaMitHut
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany187 Posts
January 11 2014 00:19 GMT
#39
well, now grubby is one of the last remaining western rts legends....
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 11 2014 00:24 GMT
#40
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote:
I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes?


Nerchio has from the beginning been studying and playing "professional" on the side, and he has for a long time been a top tier player, but then again he is one of few exceptions (some already mentioned above). But it is rare that it works out
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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