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LucifroN is no longer an active player and will be returning to his studies. As of now, the length of his break is indefinite, and may effectively be retirement.
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
LucifroN is no longer an active player and will be returning to his studies. As of now, the length of his break is indefinite, and may effectively be retirement.
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Names
Canada328 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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pmp10
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We need another foreign terran hope. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:44 Dodgin wrote: RIP Lucifron Hype Train 9/16/12 - 1/10/14 That is pretty generous. He had some crushingly poor performances lately. | ||
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Niko_Thien
Germany2671 Posts
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33390 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:48 Squat wrote: That is pretty generous. He had some crushingly poor performances lately. Ye he started the year off pretty well but idk everything fell apart, it's probably for the best. I hope his brother keeps going on though | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
Casters never let the lucifron hype train grow naturally from results like say a scarlett, instead the casters just hyped him as a favourite at every event he went to. All those failures probably took a toll on his mindset causing his leave of absence you see today. I will never forget the first time I took notice of the lucifron hype train as before this match I never really paid much attention to it. It was during one of those small 8 player dh invitationals. Can't remember which one, but I think it was dh valencia. Lucifron was facing DRG at his beastly peak when DRG was wrecking gstl and stuff. The casters were hyping lucifron so much this tourney and were predicting him to win it all and that he would beat DRG. DRG proceeded to 2-0 lucifron in 2 very one sided bops. From that point on I knew the lucifron hype was mainly a caster manifestation and totally undeserved. Kept waiting for him to prove me wrong, but he never did. | ||
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paradoxOO9
United Kingdom1123 Posts
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Luepert
United States1933 Posts
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Seiniyta
Belgium1815 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:01 Fusilero wrote: Ye he started the year off pretty well but idk everything fell apart, it's probably for the best. I hope his brother keeps going on though Man, and 2014's only 11 days long. That was a quick falling apart  That aside, I'm sure we'll see him again. I think we'll see him again. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:15 Canucklehead wrote: Hype from foreigner fans and casters, notably, Mr. Bitter just crushed him. The weight of hype and expectations seemed too much for him and just crushed him to the point where he would just utterly fail at every offline event. Casters never let the lucifron hype train grow naturally from results like say a scarlett, instead the casters just hyped him as a favourite at every event he went to. All those failures probably took a toll on his mindset causing his leave of absence you see today. I will never forget the first time I took notice of the lucifron hype train as before this match I never really paid much attention to it. It was during one of those small 8 player dh invitationals. Can't remember which one, but I think it was dh valencia. Lucifron was facing DRG at his beastly peak when DRG was wrecking gstl and stuff. The casters were hyping lucifron so much this tourney and were predicting him to win it all and that he would beat DRG. DRG proceeded to 2-0 lucifron in 2 very one sided bops. It's also b/c he had massive potential dating back to WC3. Hard to go under-the-radar when even fellow programers peg you as the person to watch out for. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
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Cassalina
United States65 Posts
I always support taking a break to resume studies and accomplish an important milestone in life like your education. I really hope more and more pro gamers continue to value education, while still owning everyone in their perspective games as a former war3 player myself, i must say i'm very proud of Lucifron and the effect he has had on Starcraft 2. It's great to see war3 players transition successfully good luck and hope to see you back! | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:44 Dodgin wrote: RIP Lucifron Hype Train 9/16/12 - 1/10/14 You're welcome on the MarineLorD Hype Train whenever you want. Good luck LucifroN, you'll be missed. But I think we'll see you in the future. | ||
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Bachatita
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Oakenshield
United States347 Posts
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VieuxSinge
France231 Posts
So, who will be the new foreign Terran hope EU? Thorzain doesn't seem to be at his top form right now. Dayshi has switched to random. Maybe Uthermal will show some good games? Oh let's not forget about Happy who was so good lately | ||
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Sjokola
Netherlands800 Posts
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
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PPN
France248 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote: I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes? Polt I guess? I always thought Lucifron was good but maybe a bit too overhyped. Also never forget the Thor drop. | ||
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vjcamarena
Spain493 Posts
Ánimo Luci! Go Lucifron! | ||
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Avs
Korea (North)857 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:28 SinCitta wrote: I guess foreigners that want to take a year off going fulltime need to spend the first months of that in Korea. They can't funnel the additional time to get significantly better by playing on EU ladder to give them better tournament results, work ethic or no. It's less about skill and more about whether there is any money they can significantly earn. Non-koreans barely earn enough to make it a full time job. | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote: I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes? MaNa in 2011/2012, Thorzain, pretty sure both LucifroN and VortiX were studying at the same time, Heromarine, Maru.... | ||
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Ruin
United States271 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On January 11 2014 09:06 mikkmagro wrote: MaNa in 2011/2012, Thorzain, pretty sure both LucifroN and VortiX were studying at the same time, Heromarine, Maru.... I think lots of young Korean pros go to some kind of school which is just incredibly throwaway that they only do for the sake of doing it and to have at least some form of back up. | ||
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mostwanted
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http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hots/players/1603_LucifroN | ||
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mouz.Wake
Sweden136 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:38 Sjokola wrote: No... But now there's just one Duran brother | ||
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:35 Oakenshield wrote: I don't know much about him but the subject does come up often and it does make me wonder how well you could juggle both. Are there any top tier gamers who win cash tournies in any game, SCII, Dota 2 or whatever, who are also full time students on campus and not just taking some online classes? Nerchio has from the beginning been studying and playing "professional" on the side, and he has for a long time been a top tier player, but then again he is one of few exceptions (some already mentioned above). But it is rare that it works out | ||
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DreamerSC
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I hope you have great success with studies and comeback in a near future greater than ever. You are true inspiration for a lot of spanish players. Thanks for your time. Animo y vuelve pronto. | ||
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Shika
Sweden1711 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:44 Dodgin wrote: RIP Lucifron Hype Train 9/16/12 - 1/10/14 Pretty sure he's gonna be the best student in EU. If he isn't already. | ||
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Swift.gt
Guatemala6 Posts
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Chiropractor
United States5 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
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RyF
Austria508 Posts
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:44 Dodgin wrote: RIP Lucifron Hype Train 9/16/12 - 1/10/14 I was on that train way before sept 2012 + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Khai
Australia551 Posts
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
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rpddropshot
United States82 Posts
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Josh_Video
Canada798 Posts
I guess i can say i seen this coming. That game vs TheSTC is the last game hes played. | ||
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ImperialFist
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Anyway, gl in your life Lucifron, you were a model to me. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On January 11 2014 10:42 Faust852 wrote: Such skill, much prediction. Anyway, gl in your life Lucifron, you were a model to me. Somebody better pick up that phone... Because you FUCKING CALLED IT! | ||
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Aveng3r
United States2411 Posts
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Master Blaster
Bahamas23 Posts
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TaShadan
Germany1973 Posts
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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XaMaXaM
Germany113 Posts
When he had to prove his talent he failed again and again. | ||
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lystier
China877 Posts
and that reminds me naniwa's tweet... pick bomber plz! | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I think going back to school is a good move. | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
GL to him though. | ||
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Darg
Poland18 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:40 NovemberstOrm wrote: A series of tweets from Mousesports management have confirmed that LucifroN is no longer an active player and will be returning to his studies. As of now, the length of his break is indefinite, and may effectively be retirement.https://twitter.com/mouzWake/status/421766140621107200 https://twitter.com/mouzWake/status/421764155050172417 https://twitter.com/mouzWake/status/421767043809939456 No MaNa no Mouz.... | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25353 Posts
Good luck with whatever he chooses to do | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On January 11 2014 12:57 JacobShock wrote: I guess Happy is the foreign terran hope now. =) There is no hope. Shame about Lucifron though. Everyone kept on over-hyping him, and set the bar too high for him. From then on, he could rarely meet that expectation. Good luck Lucifron This also is an interesting change for Mouz. They've finally picked up their first Korean in Dear, and now Mana and hOpe are released, and Lucifron is likely retiring. Changes upcoming for this team | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:30 Cassalina wrote: i was a county award winning athlete in high school - and got multiple scholarships to play in division 1 level college programs. My mom made sure that I made straight a's and even after college pursued a higher level of education. always have something to fall back on, because sports (including esports) can take a sudden change in direction (for example you might get injured), and at least you have a secondary plan to support yourself I always support taking a break to resume studies and accomplish an important milestone in life like your education. I really hope more and more pro gamers continue to value education, while still owning everyone in their perspective games as a former war3 player myself, i must say i'm very proud of Lucifron and the effect he has had on Starcraft 2. It's great to see war3 players transition successfully good luck and hope to see you back! This was the most well executed humble-brag I have seen all year. | ||
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BjoernK
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
On topic, sad to see Luci go. I guess his best timing window for a comeback might be in Lotv Beta but I wouldn`t be surprised if he just reamains a hobby player for now. | ||
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ETisME
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On January 11 2014 11:30 ZenithM wrote: I never bought into the hype honestly :/ I think going back to school is a good move. Me neither, I remember when Kalearis and other people would say "this is his tournament to win, it's bound to happen some time!".. I'd always think "yeah, no.. guy's never going to make a ro8.." | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
Gl, Lucifron! | ||
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hidetoaizen
Norway460 Posts
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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aeligos
United States172 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On January 11 2014 17:27 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: He was always overhyped and I dont know why. he had been overhyped since abusing orc hard enough to win ESWC back in the day (when everyone played orc & others retired). I guess the hype was carried into Sc2, as with most half-decent european wc3 players | ||
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samscraft
United Kingdom65 Posts
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herMan
Japan2053 Posts
On January 11 2014 07:59 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: The hype was never realized D; Everybody was waiting him to start crushing heads, especially after Mvp himself gave him credit for his mechanics. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On January 11 2014 08:18 atrox_ wrote: He just dropped off massively from the end of WoL which is really weird. His mass hellion bbqs wont be forgotten though Not really, he dropped when Hellbats were nerfed in HotS, he was destroying everyone with Hellbat drops. | ||
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Tailss
Sweden233 Posts
Hopefully he will come back some time though. | ||
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GoldforGolden
China102 Posts
he sometimes can play like a champion and almost made me a fan. it's a shame he just couldn't keep up his performance after a while | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
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Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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AyaaLa
Spain629 Posts
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On January 11 2014 20:35 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The most overhyped and overrated foreign player in Sc2. It's laughable to hype this guy had compared to his actual results. The reason why he was hyped is because for a long time he was one of the very very few really good Terrans in the foreign scene. It is also the reason why HeroMarine gets so much support nowadays (even though the real foreign Terran hero is Happy). Also, in 2013 alone (despite his horrible post-hellbat performances), he was still the 6th highest earning foreigner. | ||
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
School is important, gl with your studies. GM those results. | ||
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Rhaeide
Spain304 Posts
I hope he comes back soon without the pressure of pursuing it fulltime. I strongly believe he really showed championship form at times, but he was a little bit unlucky when it mattered the most, facing in most of the big tournaments the final winners and being defeated by small margins. I don't think he was that overhyped, it's true that he didn't win any big tournament this year (any foreigner did that after all), but the sample is quite small though. He instead crushed the Ladder constantly, most of the big names feared him for a long time, wanting to avoid him. He played really well in all the team leagues and online tournaments (winning some), and did some decent results overall speaking, constantly being in the top 10-15 in Aligulac rankings and reaching and holding the 1800+ rating along months which is IMPRESSIVE compared to the whole foreigner scene. It's true that I also expected him to shine by winning a big tournament this year. That didn't happen, but it's not a real dissapointment, I've always believed that he can fight with the koreans face to face, but he needed more time... 1 year has been insuficient. Anyways, I wish him good luck with studies, and after all the effort, some time off is always good. I'm sure he will come back even stronger when he recover his eager to compete, and he will shine again as one of the best foreigners. Keep fighting Pedro! | ||
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
Gl to you in school, Lucifron. It's best to stop when you're ahead and go back to school to get a more stable career. | ||
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Dingodile
4133 Posts
On January 11 2014 20:35 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: The most overhyped and overrated foreign player in Sc2. It's laughable to hype this guy had compared to his actual results. No. He played like a Korean Terran when he was not hyped. He played like a full foreigner when he was hyped. He is still the most succesfull Terran foreigner. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
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creamyturtle
United States487 Posts
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Iron_
United States389 Posts
I really enjoyed his games, he was one of the only foreign Terrans that I ever got a feeling might gain some traction. Sad to see him go. To those that call him all hype, you didn't watch his games, only his results (which just like all foreign Terrans, were not Terribly impressive). His games however, from a Terran perspective, were quite excellent. I think his timing on leaving the game further shows how smart he is in tactics. Good luck bra! | ||
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mikkmagro
Malta1513 Posts
On January 12 2014 05:08 creamyturtle wrote: Does anybody know what Luci will be studying? The Spanish Armada both study Computer Science. | ||
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
On January 11 2014 23:03 Dingodile wrote: No. He played like a Korean Terran when he was not hyped. He played like a full foreigner when he was hyped. He is still the most succesfull Terran foreigner. Luci was probably a better player than ThorZaIN in his prime compared to ThorZaIN's prime, but ThorZaIN won 2 premier's so I don't think Luci is the most successful. I do think he and Happy's had the most solid play though. | ||
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Champi
1422 Posts
GL with the studies lucifron, hopefully this does not mean we won't see him again!!! | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Europe scene shrinking. :/ | ||
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CyCo
Belgium67 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
I really liked him v.vPlease come back soon! | ||
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