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GSL Finals Retrospective Part 2: #7 - #1 - Page 5

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Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 14:48:04
January 02 2014 14:45 GMT
#81
I miss MVP! I miss waking up 6 am extremely hyped for the gsl... I miss the pre-kespa, pre-wcs, pre-hots starcraft2....

Man, watching MMA vs DRG was just mind blowing! And all of nestea's gsl runs!!! Man, mvp vs squirtle and that 7th game cheese...

I'm so nostalgic now...hahahahah, who remembers Jinro vs Idra on gsl 3 i think?? Jinro was my first favorite player, and i remember cheering so much for him against idra on that ro8!
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
January 02 2014 14:47 GMT
#82
The writing about that game seven, ugh gives me chills.

Great job; fucking loved that game, I may have even cried.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
January 02 2014 15:12 GMT
#83
On January 02 2014 22:56 Undead1993 wrote:
ah drg vs mma only second is tough. this moment where mma wins it is unbelievable the energy, woah this was the best moment of gsl, even though i have to admit this fifth game of squirtle vs mvp was the best tvp i've ever seen.
e:just wanted to rewatch the series and there's no vod on the gomtv site and there's nothing on their yt channel either. T_T i hate that gom did this.

I will never understand the hype for mvp vs squirtle game 5
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 02 2014 15:14 GMT
#84
Pfft, MMA-DRG only #2.
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 02 2014 15:19 GMT
#85
I'm still for Jjakji-Leenock all the way. MMA vs DRG had one good game in the series that everyone remembers, apart from that, eh.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
January 02 2014 15:38 GMT
#86
Squirtle vs Mvp game 7 is amazing. I got teary eyed reading that description of Mvp. He is such an inspiration. Wow...
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fenrysk
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 16:53:20
January 02 2014 15:48 GMT
#87
i remember just one game from the GSL October 2011 finals, even though i was there in person. there was a game on daybreak where MMA did a proxy hellion into marine/tanks, it was nutzo.

i'm really glad for this list though, i remember watching most of the series when they aired live, the jjakji-leenock was so intense in every game down to the very last second of belshir winter, where jjakji was using buildings to find burrowed banelings.

watching the MVP vs squirtle series now haha, friggin' BCs in the vortex
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
January 02 2014 16:10 GMT
#88
When talking about this final, a lot of us point to the fifth game game as the pinnacle of the series, but I disagree. Game seven was the best game we've seen in StarCraft 2. It may have been just twelve minutes long and ended by a cheese rush, but not even the longest and most action-packed macro game could compare to the excitement and emotion in that game.


Agreed, which is why the "Best Games of 2012" article baffled me so much when it wasn't even included in the top 40 (baffles me even more now, since you were a contributing writer ).

Loved the article though. Game 7 of the #1 and #2 (along with game 5 of Nestea vs sC) were some of the most emotional moments of my life. Mvp vs Squirtle could have had the added context about the general balance of the time, with most people thinking Protoss was very favored against Terran, as well as the fact that Mvp's TvP was thought to be by far his worst.

Also, game 1 of MMA vs DRG was sick, especially the ending. Surprised that didn't get a mention.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 02 2014 16:14 GMT
#89
People who didn't cry during game 7 of Mvp vs Squirtle are probably made of rocks or dry grass because you don't have feelings
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Jazzman88
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2228 Posts
January 02 2014 16:14 GMT
#90
MVP vs Squirtle was so... fucking... good.

Let's hope this year's GSL can show us some entries worthy of this list.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
January 02 2014 16:31 GMT
#91
On January 03 2014 01:14 lichter wrote:
People who didn't cry during game 7 of Mvp vs Squirtle are probably made of rocks or dry grass because you don't have feelings

I woke my parrents with my screaming :D - good times
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Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 17:02:14
January 02 2014 16:49 GMT
#92
On January 03 2014 01:14 lichter wrote:
People who didn't cry during game 7 of Mvp vs Squirtle are probably made of rocks or dry grass because you don't have feelings


I definitely shed some tears back then, I was on the edge of my bed, my heart pounding, looking on at every little moment in absolute silence, the tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife. I remember how I felt my spirit sink as I saw Mvp's first part of the all-in get pushed back, and then I remember pure elation when he managed to dupe Squirtle and kill the Zealot and Stalker, then the explosion of joy when the GG came, and a big smile spread across Mvp's face.

It was beautiful, SC2 is truly a great game for being able to kindle such strong emotions in us.

Unfortunately I haven't felt that happy about a final since then, I really miss that feeling, and Mvp's magic.
Edit: Well, I did forget Mvp vs Stephano, yeah Mvp has that magic.
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THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
January 02 2014 17:29 GMT
#93
Love this article! I'm sad Foxer didn't win a GSL

Also I remembered with fondness MVP's win in game 7 vs squrtle, so epic
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 17:35:34
January 02 2014 17:30 GMT
#94
MMA vs DRG is obviously the real #1

EDIT: And the only game MVP won in his GSL finals set was the one where he decided to go for a 1-base strat. He couldn't beat MMA straight up and he knew it.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
January 02 2014 17:36 GMT
#95
I was wondering when part 2 was coming out. Hell yeah I'm loving it. Thanks!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 02 2014 18:35 GMT
#96
On January 03 2014 01:14 lichter wrote:
People who didn't cry during game 7 of Mvp vs Squirtle are probably made of rocks or dry grass because you don't have feelings


Didn't cry but I think I might've dislocated my jaw several times
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Restless-
Profile Joined May 2010
Malaysia86 Posts
January 02 2014 18:37 GMT
#97
Awesome write up! Totally agree with that #1, prolly the most exhilarating finals I've ever watched with that intense game #7 to top things off!
Huh?
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
January 02 2014 19:00 GMT
#98
On January 02 2014 20:02 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 19:30 Emperor_Earth wrote:
The only ranking I would swap in this list is #1 & #2.

Squirtle's mental mistakes when he needed to be most clutch really devalues the most important game of the series for me.

Obviously MVP's storyline was incredible and nearly single-handedly overcomes Squirtle's fail.

Conversely, MMA and DRG made their mental mistakes earlier. Game 7 in that series was both players going all out, making no obvious blunders, (I disagree with DRG's strategic choices but given how active the entire game was, it's understandable), and featured two titans reaching their primes.


DRG lost his last mining base to a tank that ran by him and he had seen in his vision.


Are you claiming that DRG's either:
A) lack of APM/awareness while managing the game-deciding attack and macroing for it
or
B) decision to not spare resources to save his last remaining base for sending every last bit of his army for a chance at crippling a Terran's production line

is a comparable blunder to

Squirtle's decision to send his army out of his base when MVP's only chance to win the game was with a followup all-in?

Is this really the argument you want to go with?

I would argue that the average Gold-level player recognizes that a failed cheese can only be followed up by an all-in or an incredible gambit (double-expanding/teching to DT-etc.), and that the best course of action is to play safely, get scouting out immediately, and basically everything not what Squirtle chose.

Squirtle's brain-fart was on the level of Fred Brown's pass to James Worthy in '82. It was that big of a mental collapse.
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therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 02 2014 20:01 GMT
#99
I missed MVP T_T
CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
January 02 2014 20:05 GMT
#100
On January 03 2014 02:30 Whatson wrote:
MMA vs DRG is obviously the real #1

EDIT: And the only game MVP won in his GSL finals set was the one where he decided to go for a 1-base strat. He couldn't beat MMA straight up and he knew it.


Please, Mvp had another $50,000 final the next day, he had to focus on two at once. I wish they wouldn't have organized it that way, would have made a much better series if there was at least a week or two between the GSL finals and the Blizzcon finals. MMA got off easy
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