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On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:Show nested quote +
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors.
Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset?
Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this?
No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand.
On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out.
I disagree.
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On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree.
you realize this is a public forum right? Pro's make these tweets knowing people will criticize/discuss them. I don't think I need you to tell me what I can and can't say, that's what mods are for.
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I love all these people claiming that kas hasn't been relevant for a long time - he's as relevant as a foreign terran can be. Hell, he 2-0'd Hyun, 3-1'd Burning, and went 1-2 against Innovation just this month. He and Happy are literally the only foreign terrans that have good recent results, esp. against koreans....
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On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree.
Champions don't quit. Did Jaedong quit when he was having trouble with protoss? Has Bogus quit or Flash? Did Parting quit when he was losing for months at a time? People who have terrible mindsets throw hissy fits on twitter and blame DK for their losses. Like Idra did.
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"I think RTS isn’t the right type of game for people who quit because they get frustrated."
This from Dear. It's funny because it's both right and wrong. If you get frustrated too much, then you start to lose hope. But if you don't care about losing, then you won't have the sufficient drive to do the things that are needed to start not losing.
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it is kas, he did tweets like this before. with his recent slump it might be that he means it serious though.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
I've always respected Kas's work ethic and insane dedication to practise, but this is no way to retire. I've seen other players, both in Starcraft and in other games and sports, tough it out when things don't work out for them and eventually come back, often stronger than they were before their rough patch. If Kas feels that he is done with Starcraft, then I'd like to thank him for the games he's played in tournaments the last few years (and also his contagious smile), but I'll always lose a certain amount of respect for someone who chooses to go out like this, their last act as a professional to complain about the game they're playing.
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Not entirely sure if it's true, moreover he already tweeted that he's going to switch to Protoss few times and nothing happened. Basicly I think he was frustrated due to some recent losses, he's not in peak of form for a long time, I'm going to ask him tomorrow if this "statement" is real or it's not.
Overall, imo he was stronger in WOL days, atleast 3rd place at WCG beating MKP at his good shape was pretty high international record.
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seriously, even if we agree that T is UP (which it isn't btw). What if they buff them? What then? Can you imagine people like Taeja or Maru or Innovation after a buff to terran? They would be completely and utterly unbeatable, just like Inno already showed once before the hellbat nerf. Hell, they are almost unbeatable already! And do you really believe that they are just straight up better players then any other race players? Would you all be ready to get back to GOMTvT era?
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On December 22 2013 08:09 TurboMaN wrote:
And there goes another non Korean Terran player.
TvP is only balanced if you name is Teaja or Maru.
even Taeja was doubting to win the previous HSC because their were a lot of "protoss" he said. luckily he only met a few and won.
Even maru could be considered top terran nearly lost to duckdeok in a b05. I think any GM from kr can win a b03 to any terran right now.
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On December 22 2013 10:07 GTPGlitch wrote:
I love all these people claiming that kas hasn't been relevant for a long time - he's as relevant as a foreign terran can be. Hell, he 2-0'd Hyun, 3-1'd Burning, and went 1-2 against Innovation just this month. He and Happy are literally the only foreign terrans that have good recent results, esp. against koreans....
So in what respect are their results so much better than that of Bunny, Dayshi and Heromarine that you can claim that they are "literally the only foreign terrans with good results"?
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On December 22 2013 10:09 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree. Champions don't quit. Did Jaedong quit when he was having trouble with protoss? Has Bogus quit or Flash? Did Parting quit when he was losing for months at a time? People who have terrible mindsets throw hissy fits on twitter and blame DK for their losses. Like Idra did.
lol yeah bogus and flash did not quit .. but they are having a rough time .. just look at their previous interviews .. flash even considered switching to protoss once ..
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On December 22 2013 10:18 Ammanas wrote:
seriously, even if we agree that T is UP (which it isn't btw). What if they buff them? What then? Can you imagine people like Taeja or Maru or Innovation after a buff to terran? They would be completely and utterly unbeatable, just like Inno already showed once before the hellbat nerf. Hell, they are almost unbeatable already! And do you really believe that they are just straight up better players then any other race players?
You really don't know that. There's no way to tell how a balance change will affect the game. First's PvT looked stronger back in OSL when no protoss could beat a terran except Rain and him. Just because you buff say, thors, or one of the useless units of terran, doesn't mean that the people who are doing fine with other units are going to do better.
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On December 22 2013 10:18 JustPassingBy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:07 GTPGlitch wrote:
I love all these people claiming that kas hasn't been relevant for a long time - he's as relevant as a foreign terran can be. Hell, he 2-0'd Hyun, 3-1'd Burning, and went 1-2 against Innovation just this month. He and Happy are literally the only foreign terrans that have good recent results, esp. against koreans.... So in what respect are their results so much better than that of Bunny, Dayshi and Heromarine that you can claim that they are "literally the only foreign terrans with good results"?
Heromarine was raping everyone this past few months but of course only to some koreans and most europeans.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 22 2013 10:21 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:09 Plansix wrote:On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree. Champions don't quit. Did Jaedong quit when he was having trouble with protoss? Has Bogus quit or Flash? Did Parting quit when he was losing for months at a time? People who have terrible mindsets throw hissy fits on twitter and blame DK for their losses. Like Idra did. lol yeah bogus and flash did not quit .. but they are having a rough time .. just look at their previous interviews .. flash even considered switching to protoss once ..
Indeed, but was that not because he felt that Protoss can play a defensive style more like the one he played in Brood War, rather than due to any imbalances at the time?
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On December 22 2013 10:12 Nebuchad wrote:
"I think RTS isn’t the right type of game for people who quit because they get frustrated."
This from Dear. It's funny because it's both right and wrong. If you get frustrated too much, then you start to lose hope. But if you don't care about losing, then you won't have the sufficient drive to do the things that are needed to start not losing.
Kas plays 30 games a day for 3 years. he is talented.
even koreans would get frustrated at some point.
i still dont think he retires though lol
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On December 22 2013 10:18 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 08:09 TurboMaN wrote:
And there goes another non Korean Terran player.
TvP is only balanced if you name is Teaja or Maru. even Taeja was doubting to win the previous HSC because their were a lot of "protoss" he said. luckily he only met a few and won. Even maru could be considered top terran nearly lost to duckdeok in a b05. I think any GM from kr can win a b03 to any terran right now. I think a player of any race in korean gm can win a Bo3 to a player of any race atm.
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On December 22 2013 10:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:21 goody153 wrote:On December 22 2013 10:09 Plansix wrote:On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree. Champions don't quit. Did Jaedong quit when he was having trouble with protoss? Has Bogus quit or Flash? Did Parting quit when he was losing for months at a time? People who have terrible mindsets throw hissy fits on twitter and blame DK for their losses. Like Idra did. lol yeah bogus and flash did not quit .. but they are having a rough time .. just look at their previous interviews .. flash even considered switching to protoss once .. Indeed, but was that not because he felt that Protoss can play a defensive style more like the one he played in Brood War, rather than due to any imbalances at the time?
Didn't he say that because of lack of strategic choices terran has ? Mkp said the same thing as i remember when he said he got bored of sc2.
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On December 22 2013 10:27 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:24 Zealously wrote:On December 22 2013 10:21 goody153 wrote:On December 22 2013 10:09 Plansix wrote:On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree. Champions don't quit. Did Jaedong quit when he was having trouble with protoss? Has Bogus quit or Flash? Did Parting quit when he was losing for months at a time? People who have terrible mindsets throw hissy fits on twitter and blame DK for their losses. Like Idra did. lol yeah bogus and flash did not quit .. but they are having a rough time .. just look at their previous interviews .. flash even considered switching to protoss once .. Indeed, but was that not because he felt that Protoss can play a defensive style more like the one he played in Brood War, rather than due to any imbalances at the time? Didn't he say that because of lack of strategic choices terran has ? Mkp said the same thing as i remember when he said he got bored of sc2.
MKP was a bit of a spaz and the king of "poor decision making". I loved the little guy and cheered for him every time because he had heart, but I was not shocked when he moved to LoL. He had not won anything in a while and he was slowly becoming old news.
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On December 22 2013 10:24 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2013 10:21 goody153 wrote:On December 22 2013 10:09 Plansix wrote:On December 22 2013 10:03 OutlaW- wrote:On December 22 2013 10:01 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Honestly, I think fixing the game won’t satisfy everyone anyway. Hmm. So I think the key is to not get stressed too much. Let’s play with an optimistic mind. This is my answer ㅋㅋㅋ. Even I’m getting stressed at PvP these days. I’ve changed my mindset to “if it’s not going to be patched anyway, I’ll try to find the answer myself”. ㅋㅋ.
SourceFrom a recent interview by Dear. I wish more people looked at the game like this. Starcraft has many factors to being good then just playing many games, mindset is one of the hugest factors. Mindset? Kas had a shitty mindset? Did you have to endure what he did? Did you play the game 30-40 games every day? Were you known as the happy guy who always laughed and had a great mindset, beating many patchzergs when nobody expected him to? Were you finally crushed by despair so much that you would publicly do something like this? No. So please, stop commenting on things you don't understand. On December 22 2013 10:01 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
This is about the worst way to go out. I disagree. Champions don't quit. Did Jaedong quit when he was having trouble with protoss? Has Bogus quit or Flash? Did Parting quit when he was losing for months at a time? People who have terrible mindsets throw hissy fits on twitter and blame DK for their losses. Like Idra did. lol yeah bogus and flash did not quit .. but they are having a rough time .. just look at their previous interviews .. flash even considered switching to protoss once .. Indeed, but was that not because he felt that Protoss can play a defensive style more like the one he played in Brood War, rather than due to any imbalances at the time?
No he thought protoss was op as fuck, he said forcefields were op warpgate were op etc. etc. lol
I also disagree strongly with your sentiment. If no one stands up to David Kim and says enough is fucking enough, well have the same broodlord infestor bullshit that went on for a year, all while we kept hearing "its fine guys". Im with you Kas. Ive stopped playing the game too (im only master terran so no pro lol).
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