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Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
December 09 2013 14:42 GMT
#121
38k should be a bit more than the typical young Korean who holds and BA degree and is working for a bigger company makes in his first year(s). Considering that he also got a lot of basic expenses covered (shelter, food, electricity/internet etc.) it`s not a bad deal. A Postdoc in Germany usually makes that much and they are in a later stage at their lives with much more responsibilities etc.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 09 2013 15:02 GMT
#122
guys you've got it all wrong, alive is acting as recruiter for col and sending revival there and is going to take a cut of his contract

because he's got HUSTLE
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
December 09 2013 15:12 GMT
#123
I really hope they keep aLive and Oz. They have done really well this year and without them JD is the only player on EG that will do anything. I have high hopes for Suppy and Xeno also.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 09 2013 15:15 GMT
#124
On December 10 2013 00:02 mikedebo wrote:
guys you've got it all wrong, alive is acting as recruiter for col and sending revival there and is going to take a cut of his contract

because he's got HUSTLE

This guy knows what's up.
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CrankOut
Profile Joined November 2013
187 Posts
December 09 2013 15:36 GMT
#125
Zenio *cough*
sSooG
Profile Joined June 2013
Croatia38 Posts
December 09 2013 15:53 GMT
#126
EG needs high profile players... sad to see him leave but its good for the EG image
nerf mutaliskuuuu!!!
Noonius
Profile Joined April 2012
Estonia17413 Posts
December 09 2013 15:58 GMT
#127
On December 10 2013 00:53 sSooG wrote:
EG needs high profile players... sad to see him leave but its good for the EG image


yep, they really need to get rid of the old guard and bring in some new blood. EG.Patience? because you know, why not
Terran forever | Maru hater forever
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
December 09 2013 16:03 GMT
#128
On December 10 2013 00:53 sSooG wrote:
EG needs high profile players... sad to see him leave but its good for the EG image


They have Jaedong. They don't need anyone else because team leagues don't matter.
The others players can be their foreigners, paid little but with a good part of streaming obligations.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
December 09 2013 16:03 GMT
#129
gl to him in the future.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
December 09 2013 16:05 GMT
#130
A shame, I actually liked Revival really much. In terms of character I think he was far underappreciated.
"Peter the Acretree chops some wood"
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 09 2013 16:30 GMT
#131
On December 09 2013 23:42 Irrational_Animal wrote:
38k should be a bit more than the typical young Korean who holds and BA degree and is working for a bigger company makes in his first year(s). Considering that he also got a lot of basic expenses covered (shelter, food, electricity/internet etc.) it`s not a bad deal. A Postdoc in Germany usually makes that much and they are in a later stage at their lives with much more responsibilities etc.

It's not a long term benefit though.
I would rather make $25k for 3 years while someone else made $38k because I will probably be making $50k while he's slipped back down the ladder and is making $30k.

Someone who has a degree and a "real" job is in better position than someone playing e-Sports and having a low-ish level of success. Maybe if you are an MC or similar it's fine in the long run, but Revival is putting his long term career on hold.
HOLY CHECK!
ZionsWrath
Profile Joined December 2010
United States121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 16:40:49
December 09 2013 16:40 GMT
#132
The sad thing is, as a casual north american player/viewer, the only EG player I recognize is iNcontrol and HuK...

Don't care if this guy leaves to be honest....
NFxJehuty
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom58 Posts
December 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#133
That's just you
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 16:59:07
December 09 2013 16:54 GMT
#134
On December 09 2013 21:50 Durmaz21 wrote:
I'm curious as to why they let Revival go yet players like Machine and Thorzain are still on the team. I know for example Incontrol is still on EG because he's more of a personality/host/caster these days, so he obviously represents EG well, but what the fuck does Machine and Thorzain do for the team these days. Clearly they don't bring in a lot of money.


I really don't understand why so many people on TL are disconnected from reality. It's been a constant debate from region-locking to any other controversial Korean vs Foreigner topic.

Reality = the vast majority of Foreigner SC2 viewers aren't interested in Koreans unless they

A) speak English
B) try hard to connect to foreign fans
C) have attained superstar status

Companies like EG make money off sponsorship, not skill or results of players. Personality & reputation > skill & results with regards to marketing. Despite poor results, I guarantee that Thorzain and Machine are each more popular and have more fans than Revival, Oz and Alive combined in the foreign scene. Therefore they are worth more to the team.

That being said, Machine and Thorzain may not be sticking around too much longer anyhow, as they may be moving on to other things. Especially Thorzain, who seems quite unhappy with his direction in his latest interviews.
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 09 2013 17:05 GMT
#135
If it's true that he called EG a trash team while on it (and I have no reason to mistrust the several translators here), then that's really unprofessional by him and no one should shed a tear about his departure. There are a lot of Korean pros that are better than him skillwise and would greatly appreciate the benefits of a salary and the opportunity to travel to non-Korean tournaments.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
December 09 2013 17:07 GMT
#136
On December 10 2013 01:40 ZionsWrath wrote:
The sad thing is, as a casual north american player/viewer, the only EG player I recognize is iNcontrol and HuK...

Don't care if this guy leaves to be honest....

You don't know who Jaedong or Demuslim are? That's seriously casual, respect.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 09 2013 17:11 GMT
#137
On December 10 2013 02:05 ACrow wrote:
If it's true that he called EG a trash team while on it (and I have no reason to mistrust the several translators here), then that's really unprofessional by him and no one should shed a tear about his departure. There are a lot of Korean pros that are better than him skillwise and would greatly appreciate the benefits of a salary and the opportunity to travel to non-Korean tournaments.


I dunno maybe revival asked incontrol for advice on how to be more popular and incontrol said "Maybe you should try to be more like Idra since we don't have him anymore"
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
seoul_kiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States545 Posts
December 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#138
EG needs quite the roster revamp soon, many of their players aren't inspiring anymore and many have lost a lot of popularity. It's not always about their records and accomplishments and some players bring more to the team than others in a diverse way.

Honestly, I would only keep Alive (consistency), Jaedong for their skills and Incontrol and maybe Machine for the work they do on the team and with the sponsors. Suppy has great potential so I'd keep him and perhaps Xeno but not sure if he has anything coming up for him. On the fence about players like Oz and DeMuslim. Thorzain and HuK are popular but they have waned in skill and Thorzain isn't even full time. EG can really acquire better players (altho some might need to be headhunted EG has the resources)
oGs.MC: Repair IMBAAAAAAAAAAa
Lelantoss
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3 Posts
December 09 2013 17:57 GMT
#139
He'd make a good fit on Axiom I feel.
CrankOut
Profile Joined November 2013
187 Posts
December 09 2013 18:05 GMT
#140
On December 10 2013 02:57 Lelantoss wrote:
He'd make a good fit on Axiom I feel.


I hope not!
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